Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-16 Thread vrobin

Maybe you could have a look at custombrowse/customscan. When hard to fix
tag/browse problems occurs, they are the solution (mostly;) )


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-16 Thread egd

I'm not sure what else to do to address the issue without resorting to
the tag editing you referred to for Thin Lizzy (like your choice by the
way, great band).  I've not come across this problem because I took a
decision at the outset not to differentiate CDs for multiple CD sets. 
In my case I basically name the albums the same across all CDs in a
multiple CD set and number the tracks consecutively across the CDs.

The only other thing that springs to mind is the behaviour settings 
under the Server Settings / Behavior:

*COMPILATIONS
You can choose to have compilation albums appear together under
"Various Artists" or have them appear under each artist in the
compilation*  - I have this set to group compilation albums together

and 

*Albums that contain songs that are tagged with a band may be listed
under that band name or with the other artists for that album. The band
tag is also known as TPE2 and may appear as the "album artist" in some
software.* -- min is set to list albums by all artists for that album.

I suspect in your case you should change that to "list albums by band"
if you have not already done so.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-16 Thread CliveL

Thanks for the tip on the MP3Tag Actions!!! That worked a treat! I
created a very simple Action to write the "BAND" tag with the contents
of "Album Artist" and tested it before letting it loose on the 7,000
odd tracks, but it worked fine.

After a complete clear and rescan I now have the results I was after
when listing "Album, by Artist". The only exception is another oddity
that seems to occur with multiple artists on non-compilation albums. SS
appears to use the Artist who was tagged on the last track of the album,
even if the "BAND" tag is set across all the tracks.

The example I found last night was with the two-disc set of Thin
Lizzy's Greatest Hits. In the "Album, by Artist" I expected these two
to appear right next to each other. However, the first disc was listed
in the P's for artists, not the T's. The reason seemed to be that the
last track on disc 1 has an Artist tag of 'Phil Lynott', even though
all of the other tracks have the "Artist" as 'Thin Lizzy' and the
"Album Artist" and "BAND" tags are also set to 'Thin Lizzy'. Changing
the "Artist" tag on the final track to 'Thin Lizzy;Phil Lynott'
restored the disc to its rightful position among the T's... Both discs
had the "Compilation" tag set to zero, and the disc numbering was
correct.

I'm still trying to get my head around the exact logic used by SS, and
what tags may take precedence over others, but things are now arranged
as I want them at least, so thanks to all who advised!

Regards,

Clive


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-15 Thread egd

CliveL;235209 Wrote: 
> When I populate the "BAND" tag with 'The Chemical Brothers', the "Album,
> by Artist" view shows "'Push The Button' by 'The Chemical Brothers'"
> which is the result I want...

Sounds like you're on the right track then.  In my case all tracks have
a single artist in the ARTIST tag and compilation set to 0/1 depending
on whether or not the album is of the VA variety.  Having more than one
artist set for tracks/albums would explain the behaviour you're seeing,
and it would seem that adding the BAND tag, in conjunction with
COMPILATION=0/1 as the case may be, takes care of that for you.

Here are some references that may assist further if required (obviously
I would be well-advised to read them too):
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToTagging
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimServerSupportedTags
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?MultiDisc


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-15 Thread CliveL

Hi again,

It may be that I am approaching this the wrong way then, but I can give
a little more detail on what I have seen in my tests...

Taking the album "Push The Button" by "The Chemical Brothers". Some of
the tracks have more than one Artist listed, using multiple artists in
a single "ARTIST" tag separated by the semicolon character (which SS is
configured to recognise as a separator).

When browsing "Albums, by Artist", the album artwork is shown
correctly, but it is labelled as "'Push The Button' by 'The Chemical
Brothers, Q-Tip, The Magic Numbers, Anwar Superstar'" i.e. it lists all
the Artists who are tagged in the 11 tracks. This is true if the "BAND"
tag DOES NOT exist, but the "Album Artist" tag does (on all tracks
obviously).

When I populate the "BAND" tag with 'The Chemical Brothers', the
"Album, by Artist" view shows "'Push The Button' by 'The Chemical
Brothers'" which is the result I want...

I don't know if this is something to do with the differences between
"BAND", "Album Artist" and maybe even "AlbumArtist" tag usage by SS,
but these are the results as I find them. Removing the "Album Artist"
tag altogether, and keeping the "BAND" tag, still produces the
consolidated result of "'Push The Button' by 'The Chemical Brothers'",
which is what makes me think that SS may be ignoring the "Album Artist"
tag.

Incidentally, adding the "COMPILATION=0" tag to all the files produces
the result of removing the album from the "Various Artists" group,
which is what I want also.

Any more hints or views on usage of the "BAND" and "Album Artist" tags
would be gratefully received.

Cheers,

Clive


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-15 Thread egd

CliveL;235200 Wrote: 
> I've found that SS seems to need to be able to read a tag called "BAND"
> when it displays views such as "Albums, by Artist" before it displays
> the correct Album Artist in this view. .. I've also started
> to get a clearer indication of how the "COMPILATION" tag works in the
> scenario of having albums with more than one artist, but that's another
> story...

I have an extensive FLAC library and not a single file contains a tag
entry called BAND.  Basically I use ARTIST and set COMPILATION to 0
when the album is by a single artist and 1 when it's a various artists
album.  Don't have any issues browsing Albums by Artist with this
approach.

If you still need to create a BAND tag based on ALBUM ARTIST, the
approach described using mp3tag works a treat.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Copying info from one FLAC tag to another?

2007-10-15 Thread vrobin

Use MP3Tag actions, you can select your whole collection and use format
tag something like:
set band tag:
value = %albumartist%

I don't have the software on the hand, but it should be something like
this.

PS: always try on a couple of albums first and check you action didn't
destroy something or better, keep a full copy of your collection
somewhere before doing such action over all your files...

Those links can help you:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:ID3_Tag_Mapping
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/ID3.html
http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames


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