Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
Andy, thanks so much for this information. You have saved me a
  *tremendous amount* of time trying to figure out which HP model to
  get.


On 2/15/2018 01:07, Andy Higginson
  wrote:


  
  
I forgot to mention about the HP EliteDesk 800 series of
  machines.  These are the range that has replaced the 8xxx
  series of machines.  They DO NOT come with a PCI slot.  The
  PCI slot is an optional add on board on the 800 g1 and 800 g2
  only.  The 800 g3 does not support PCI, only PCIe.  Therefore
  if you have older PCI cards you need to factor this in when
  buying.  The PCI expansion card is about $30.  I've got an 800
  g2 i3 machine in a rack running EncoDad (to be replaced over
  the summer with Rivendell) with an ASI6012 card and it's VERY
  quiet (SSD) and reliable.  The only time is has been rebooted
  is when we had a power cut and it's been running 24/7 since
  Jan 2017.




  


 On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:52:53 + Andy
Higginson  wrote 

  
  
  
  

  
There are 3 types of case that HP use for their
  enterprise desktops.  These are USFF (Ultra small form
  factor), SFF (small form factor) and CMT (Convertable
  Mini Tower).  Only the CMT version has full height
  slots.  The CMT case can either be used upright or it
  can be turned on it's side and the DVD drive can be
  altered for either.  It will just fit into a rack case
  on it's side, and it's about 4u in height.  Here is a
  link to the service manual.  http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03612798



Andy




  


 On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 00:54:58 + Rich
Stivers 
  wrote 

  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thank you for sharing all your experiences. I
appreciate it. One more question, do HP8300's
typically have some full-height
  
  PCIE slots? Most of the 8300's I found on
Amazon that listed expansion slots had low
profile PCIE slots only. For my AS cards
  
  I need full-height x1 slots.
  
  
  
  
  
  Rich Stivers
  
  
  
  
  
  On 2/13/2018 18:17, Steve Varholy wrote:
  
  

  We
are using external USB interfaces on the USF
HP8300's. On the mini-towers, we are using
M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.
  
  
  
  I
saw you also asked on the list about how
long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We were
using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out
of them before the motherboards developed
capacitor problems. I had three all go legs
up within a 2 1/2 month timeframe.
  
  
  
  I
highly recommend enterprise/corporate
machines rather than white-box built ones
for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They
are designed for quick component
replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan
- there are no major changes for the life of
model, so, for example, all you need are the
drivers for the 8300. No wondering whether
your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.� 3. HP/Dell
maintain the availability of the drivers and
documentation 

Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Steve Varholy]

We are using external USB interfaces on the USF HP8300's. On the mini-towers, 
we are using M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.


I saw you also asked on the list about how long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We 
were using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out of them before the motherboards 
developed capacitor problems. I had three all go legs up within a 2 1/2 month 
timeframe.


I highly recommend enterprise/corporate machines rather than white-box built 
ones for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They are designed for quick 
component replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan - there are no major 
changes for the life of model, so, for example, all you need are the drivers 
for the 8300. No wondering whether your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.  3. HP/Dell 
maintain the availability of the drivers and documentation online for decades. 
No worries about not being able to obtain the drivers you need.


Steve Varholy
President and General Manager

[1478183502168_WXRY_Full_993_300x145.png]


The Historic Barringer Building

1338 Main Street - Suite 202

Columbia, South Carolina 29201

Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251

Direct: (803) 404-5535

Cell: (703) 585-2101


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
<rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Rich Stivers 
<r...@stivers-bros.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:54:05 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell


I appreciate your reply. How long do these refurbished HP 8300's last? I see 
they have great reviews on Amazon.


Are you using Audio Science sound cards in these by chance?


Rich Stivers


On 2/12/2018 20:46, Steve Varholy wrote:

I prefer to use enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off lease and 
have been refurbished.


After suffering through years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard 
capacitors, we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5 processors. In particular, I 
have had good luck with the 8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim Form 
Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch 
system - scheduled for upgrade to the latest version or replacement with 
Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any issues.�


I have Rivendell built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and it's 
been rock solid for a year.


Steve Varholy
President and General Manager

[1478183502168_WXRY_Full_993_300x145.png]


The Historic Barringer Building

1338 Main Street - Suite 202

Columbia, South Carolina 29201

Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251

Direct: (803) 404-5535

Cell: (703) 585-2101


A Service of the Independent Media Foundation


From: 
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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell
�

I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was built from the 
Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently purchased to run 
Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds PC's from 
components. When I asked him about putting
together a PC to run Centos 6,� he was concerned Centos 6 may not run on the 
latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
Cupertino / San Jose CA

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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Andy Higginson]

I forgot to mention about the HP EliteDesk 800 series of machines.  These are 
the range that has replaced the 8xxx series of machines.  They DO NOT come with 
a PCI slot.  The PCI slot is an optional add on board on the 800 g1 and 800 g2 
only.  The 800 g3 does not support PCI, only PCIe.  Therefore if you have older 
PCI cards you need to factor this in when buying.  The PCI expansion card is 
about $30.  I've got an 800 g2 i3 machine in a rack running EncoDad (to be 
replaced over the summer with Rivendell) with an ASI6012 card and it's VERY 
quiet (SSD) and reliable.  The only time is has been rebooted is when we had a 
power cut and it's been running 24/7 since Jan 2017.





 On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:52:53 + Andy Higginson 
a...@higgles.co.uk wrote 




There are 3 types of case that HP use for their enterprise desktops.  These are 
USFF (Ultra small form factor), SFF (small form factor) and CMT (Convertable 
Mini Tower).  Only the CMT version has full height slots.  The CMT case can 
either be used upright or it can be turned on it's side and the DVD drive can 
be altered for either.  It will just fit into a rack case on it's side, and 
it's about 4u in height.  Here is a link to the service manual.  
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03612798



Andy





 On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 00:54:58 + Rich Stivers 
r...@stivers-bros.com wrote 






Thank you for sharing all your experiences. I appreciate it. One more question, 
do HP8300's typically have some full-height

PCIE slots? Most of the 8300's I found on Amazon that listed expansion slots 
had low profile PCIE slots only. For my AS cards

I need full-height x1 slots.





Rich Stivers





On 2/13/2018 18:17, Steve Varholy wrote:

We are using external USB interfaces on the USF HP8300's. On the mini-towers, 
we are using M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.



I saw you also asked on the list about how long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We 
were using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out of them before the motherboards 
developed capacitor problems. I had three all go legs up within a 2 1/2 month 
timeframe.



I highly recommend enterprise/corporate machines rather than white-box built 
ones for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They are designed for quick 
component replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan - there are no major 
changes for the life of model, so, for example, all you need are the drivers 
for the 8300. No wondering whether your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.� 3. HP/Dell 
maintain the availability of the drivers and documentation online�for 
decades. No worries about not being able to obtain the drivers you need.





Steve Varholy

President and General Manager















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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Andy Higginson]

There are 3 types of case that HP use for their enterprise desktops.  These are 
USFF (Ultra small form factor), SFF (small form factor) and CMT (Convertable 
Mini Tower).  Only the CMT version has full height slots.  The CMT case can 
either be used upright or it can be turned on it's side and the DVD drive can 
be altered for either.  It will just fit into a rack case on it's side, and 
it's about 4u in height.  Here is a link to the service manual.  
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03612798



Andy





 On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 00:54:58 + Rich Stivers 
r...@stivers-bros.com wrote 




Thank you for sharing all your experiences. I appreciate it. One more question, 
do HP8300's typically have some full-height

 PCIE slots? Most of the 8300's I found on Amazon that listed expansion slots 
had low profile PCIE slots only. For my AS cards

 I need full-height x1 slots.




Rich Stivers





On 2/13/2018 18:17, Steve Varholy wrote:

We are using external USB interfaces on the USF HP8300's. On the mini-towers, 
we are using M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.



I saw you also asked on the list about how long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We 
were using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out of them before the motherboards 
developed capacitor problems. I had three all go legs up within a 2 1/2 month 
timeframe.



I highly recommend enterprise/corporate machines rather than white-box built 
ones for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They are designed for quick 
component replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan - there are no major 
changes for the life of model, so, for example, all you need are the drivers 
for the 8300. No wondering whether your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.� 3. HP/Dell 
maintain the availability of the drivers and documentation online�for 
decades. No worries about not being able to obtain the drivers you need.



Steve Varholy

 President and General Manager





 






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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
Andy:
I appreciate all the info. This gives me plenty of options.
Rich


On 2/14/2018 02:53, Andy Higginson
  wrote:


  
  
Hi,



Nope I'm not using AS cards.  I'm running with Sound
  Blaster Audigy 2 cards and these are great for a budget
  soundcard.  They work really well with Rivendell and allow me
  to use 3 independent outputs from Rivendell. Audio Science
  cards are not so easy to get in the UK at a good price.  That
  said, when I get round to moving the work machines over to
  Rivendell, I will be using some ASI6520 cards.



If I was buying more machines, I would stick to the HP 8xxx
  series of machines and go for the 8300 first, then 8200 and so
  on.  Work uses the 8200 machines for office machines and they
  are reliable (the only issues are with the Win7 image not the
  machine itself).



Andy




  


 On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 02:02:03 + Rich Stivers
 wrote 

  
  
  
  

  Andy:
  
  Thanks for the info. Are you using Audio Science sound
cards with your HP 8000's?
  
  Rich
  
  
  
  On 2/13/2018 07:58, Andy Higginson wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
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Another vote here for the HP 8000 and above
  series.  I'm using HP 8000 Elite machines which are
  Core2Duo E8500 CPU based.  These can be bought in the
  UK from about £50 (8100 is from £100 and 8200 from
  £100 as well).  At that price it is reasonable to have
  a spare or 2 in stock for fast swap out if one fails. 
  The only issues I've had with any of the 8000 series
  are the fans.  On some 8200 machines in my studios
  (running Audition) I've had to replace a CPU fan and a
  rear fan.  Both a very quick swap.  


  


One machine to avoid is the HP dc7900.  I've
  seen issues with the motherboard capacitors on
  these machines.



Andy

  

  

  



  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
Thank you for sharing all your experiences. I appreciate it. One
  more question, do HP8300's typically have some full-height
  PCIE slots? Most of the 8300's I found on Amazon that listed
  expansion slots had low profile PCIE slots only. For my AS cards
  I need full-height x1 slots.


Rich Stivers



On 2/13/2018 18:17, Steve Varholy
  wrote:


  
  
  
We are using external
  USB interfaces on the USF HP8300's. On the mini-towers, we are
  using M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.


I saw you also asked on
  the list about how long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We were
  using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out of them before the
  motherboards developed capacitor problems. I had three all go
  legs up within a 2 1/2 month timeframe.


I highly recommend
  enterprise/corporate machines rather than white-box built ones
  for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They are designed for
  quick component replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan -
  there are no major changes for the life of model, so, for
  example, all you need are the drivers for the 8300. No
  wondering whether your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.� 3. HP/Dell
  maintain the availability of the drivers and documentation
  online�for decades. No worries about not being able to obtain
  the drivers you need.



  
Steve Varholy
  President and General Manager




The Historic Barringer Building
1338 Main Street - Suite 202
Columbia, South Carolina 29201
Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251
Direct: (803) 404-5535
Cell: (703) 585-2101


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  <rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on
  behalf of Rich Stivers <r...@stivers-bros.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:54:05 PM
  To: Rivendell-Dev
  Subject: Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell
�
  
  
I appreciate your reply. How long do these refurbished HP
  8300's last? I see they have great reviews on Amazon.


Are you using Audio Science sound cards in these by chance?


Rich Stivers




On 2/12/2018 20:46, Steve Varholy
  wrote:


  
  
I prefer to use
  enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off
  lease and have been refurbished.


After suffering
  through years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard
  capacitors, we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5
  processors. In particular, I have had good luck with the
  8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim Form Factor/Desktop and
  Mini-Tower. They can run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch
  system - scheduled for upgrade to the latest version or
  replacement with Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any
  issues.�


I have Rivendell
  built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and
  it's been rock solid for a year.



  
Steve Varholy
  President and General Manager




The Historic Barringer Building
1338 Main Street - Suite 202
Columbia, South Carolina 29201
Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251
Direct: (803) 404-5535
Cell: (703) 585-2101


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<rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
  on behalf of Rich Stivers 
<r...@stivers-bros.com>
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
  To: Rivendell-Dev
              Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell
�
  
  
I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was
  built from the Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
  Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently
  purchased t

Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Andy Higginson]

Hi,



Nope I'm not using AS cards.  I'm running with Sound Blaster Audigy 2 cards and 
these are great for a budget soundcard.  They work really well with Rivendell 
and allow me to use 3 independent outputs from Rivendell. Audio Science cards 
are not so easy to get in the UK at a good price.  That said, when I get round 
to moving the work machines over to Rivendell, I will be using some ASI6520 
cards.



If I was buying more machines, I would stick to the HP 8xxx series of machines 
and go for the 8300 first, then 8200 and so on.  Work uses the 8200 machines 
for office machines and they are reliable (the only issues are with the Win7 
image not the machine itself).



Andy





 On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 02:02:03 + Rich Stivers 
r...@stivers-bros.com wrote 




Andy:

Thanks for the info. Are you using Audio Science sound cards with your HP 
8000's?

Rich



On 2/13/2018 07:58, Andy Higginson wrote:





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Another vote here for the HP 8000 and above series.  I'm using HP 8000 Elite 
machines which are Core2Duo E8500 CPU based.  These can be bought in the UK 
from about £50 (8100 is from £100 and 8200 from £100 as well).  At that price 
it is reasonable to have a spare or 2 in stock for fast swap out if one fails.  
The only issues I've had with any of the 8000 series are the fans.  On some 
8200 machines in my studios (running Audition) I've had to replace a CPU fan 
and a rear fan.  Both a very quick swap.  



One machine to avoid is the HP dc7900.  I've seen issues with the motherboard 
capacitors on these machines.



Andy








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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
Andy:
Thanks for the info. Are you using Audio Science sound cards with
  your HP 8000's?
Rich


On 2/13/2018 07:58, Andy Higginson
  wrote:


  
  
Another vote here for the HP 8000 and above series.  I'm
  using HP 8000 Elite machines which are Core2Duo E8500 CPU
  based.  These can be bought in the UK from about £50 (8100 is
  from £100 and 8200 from £100 as well).  At that price it is
  reasonable to have a spare or 2 in stock for fast swap out if
  one fails.  The only issues I've had with any of the 8000
  series are the fans.  On some 8200 machines in my studios
  (running Audition) I've had to replace a CPU fan and a rear
  fan.  Both a very quick swap.  


  


One machine to avoid is the HP dc7900.  I've seen
  issues with the motherboard capacitors on these machines.



Andy







 On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 04:46:48 + Steve
Varholy <st...@wxryfm.org> wrote 

  
  
  
  

  
I prefer to
  use enterprise/corporate level systems that have come
  off lease and have been refurbished.



After
  suffering through years of Dell Optiplexes that have
  bad motherboard capacitors, we've moved over to HPs
  with Intel i5 processors. In particular, I have had
  good luck with the 8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim
  Form Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can run
  Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch system - scheduled for
  upgrade to the latest version or replacement with
  Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any issues. 



I have
  Rivendell built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim
  Desktop/SSD and it's been rock solid for a year.




  
Steve Varholy

 President and General Manager





The Historic Barringer Building

1338 Main Street - Suite 202

Columbia, South Carolina 29201

Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251

Direct: (803) 404-5535

Cell: (703) 585-2101



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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
  <rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
  on behalf of Rich Stivers <r...@stivers-bros.com>
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
  To: Rivendell-Dev
          Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 +
  Rivendell 
 

  
  
I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell
  that was built from the Appliance DVD. Of the people
  who prefer an

 Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you
  recently purchased to run Rivendell? Did you buy a
  name brand PC or

 build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who
  builds PC's from components. When I asked him about
  putting

 together a PC to run Centos 6,  he was concerned
  Centos 6 may not run on the latest chipsets. Is this
  true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers

 KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio

 Cupertino / San Jose CA

  
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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
On the re-furb Dell Optiplexes are you using Audio Science sound
  cards?
Rich Stivers


On 2/13/2018 07:30, Tom Van Gorkom
  wrote:


  I second that on UEFI - a real pain to work around.
I have found that re-furb Dell Optiplexes have worked well for
us. I also built my own Asus MB boxes a couple years ago using
AMD processors with no issues. 
  
  

  

  

  
Tom Van
Gorkom
  Radio
Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150   
  Cell: 865-803-7427
  
  
Rio Grande
Bible Institute
  4300 S
US Hwy 281
  Edinburg,
TX 78539

  

  

  


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:08 AM, Cowboy
  
  wrote:
  On Monday 12 February 2018 11:35:29 pm Rich
  Stivers wrote:
  >  he was concerned Centos 6 may not run on the latest
  chipsets. Is this true?
  
 He couldn't be more wrong !

 UEFI ( so-called BIOS ) can be a huge pain, especially with
RAID,
 but that's by Micro$oft design, so half-way expected.

--
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http://cowboy.cwf1.com

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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
I appreciate your reply. How long do these refurbished HP 8300's
  last? I see they have great reviews on Amazon.


Are you using Audio Science sound cards in these by chance?


Rich Stivers




On 2/12/2018 20:46, Steve Varholy
  wrote:


  
  
  
I prefer to use
  enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off lease
  and have been refurbished.


After suffering through
  years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard capacitors,
  we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5 processors. In
  particular, I have had good luck with the 8300 series with a
  mix of USF/Slim Form Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can
  run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch system - scheduled for
  upgrade to the latest version or replacement with Rivendell)
  so you shouldn't have any issues.�


I have Rivendell built
  from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and it's been
  rock solid for a year.



  
Steve Varholy
  President and General Manager




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1338 Main Street - Suite 202
Columbia, South Carolina 29201
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  From:
  rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
  <rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on
  behalf of Rich Stivers <r...@stivers-bros.com>
  Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
  To: Rivendell-Dev
  Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell
�
  
  
I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was
  built from the Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
  Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently
  purchased to run Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
  build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds
  PC's from components. When I asked him about putting
  together a PC to run Centos 6,� he was concerned Centos 6 may
  not run on the latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
  KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
  Cupertino / San Jose CA

  


  

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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Cowboy]

On Tuesday 13 February 2018 11:12:04 am 41001...@python.interpring.com wrote:
> Then what do you do when the installer doesn't recognize critical pieces 
> of hardware, such as NICs, hard drive controllers, or video chipsets?
> 

 I have run into that, but on older chipsets where Red Hat has dropped
 support, not newer.
 F'instance, the LMC T-1 card, which has been a part of the kernel code
 since 2.2.x.
 It's still in the kernel, but RH has removed necessary other parts to make it 
go. 
 I still have two of those cards, but they aren't 64 bit, and since they haven't
 been produced in a decade or so, aren't gonna be anytime soon.
 I ( yes, ME ) am not gonna run right out and buy all new hardware just
 because Micro$oft ( and by extension Red Hat, and by further 
 extension CentOS ) says I must.

 The situation of which you speak, I have run into, maybe once, a board
 where I had to plug a NIC into a slot to finish the install, and do an update,
 but after that everything else just worked.

-- 
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reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment."
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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Steve Varholy]

I prefer to use enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off lease and 
have been refurbished.


After suffering through years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard 
capacitors, we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5 processors. In particular, I 
have had good luck with the 8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim Form 
Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch 
system - scheduled for upgrade to the latest version or replacement with 
Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any issues.


I have Rivendell built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and it's 
been rock solid for a year.


Steve Varholy
President and General Manager

[1478183502168_WXRY_Full_993_300x145.png]


The Historic Barringer Building

1338 Main Street - Suite 202

Columbia, South Carolina 29201

Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251

Direct: (803) 404-5535

Cell: (703) 585-2101


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
<rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> on behalf of Rich Stivers 
<r...@stivers-bros.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell


I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was built from the 
Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently purchased to run 
Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds PC's from 
components. When I asked him about putting
together a PC to run Centos 6,  he was concerned Centos 6 may not run on the 
latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
Cupertino / San Jose CA
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[RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Rich Stivers]

  
  
I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was built
  from the Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
  Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently purchased
  to run Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
  build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds PC's
  from components. When I asked him about putting
  together a PC to run Centos 6,  he was concerned Centos 6 may not
  run on the latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
  KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
  Cupertino / San Jose CA

  

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