Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[Rich Stivers]

Fred:

Thanks for the detailed reply. I'll stick with XFCE - didn't realize 
Gnome was a resource hog.


Rich


On 12/7/2018 04:09, Fred Gleason wrote:
On Dec 6, 2018, at 23:29, Rich Stivers > wrote:



At the step for Mount Points -
for /home, 100G is specified. Since I have a 1TB disc, could I 
specify 200G instead? Our sound files reside on a

NAS Raid server so this drive doesn't need extra space in /var/snd.


Yes, you can tweak those sizes to be whatever is optimal for your 
situation. The main point of that installation step is to *not* use 
‘Automatic Partitioning’, which will end up allocating most of your 
space to ‘/home’ and almost none to ‘/var/snd’, which is severely 
non-optimal for a stand-alone Rivendell system.



The resulting desktop is Xfce instead of Gnome. Is Xfce better than 
Gnome? I had no problem with Gnome in Centos 6.
If it's not too much trouble I'd like to bring back Gnome. Would this 
interfere with Rivendell in any way?


It all depends on what you mean by ‘better’. Gnome on CentOS 7 is 
(alas) Gnome 3, which not only is the resource hog of the century but 
also copies every bad feature possible from Windows 8. We ended up 
settling on XFCE because it is fast, lightweight and customizable. 
Remember, this is a tool for keeping your station on the air and 
sounding good, neither more nor less. You really neither need nor want 
a desktop that tries to ‘entertain’ your air staff. A simple program 
launcher generally suffices.


Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[Cowboy]

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 08:34:15 -0500
Fred Gleason  wrote:

> On Dec 7, 2018, at 07:43, Cowboy  wrote:
> 
> > By default, but it begs the question,
> > gnome-desktop-2.32.0-17.el7.x86_64.rpm
> > appears to be Gnome-2 for RHEL-7 !?
> 
> Apparently. I’m not seeing such a package available in either CentOS 7 Base 
> or EPEL, so I really
> have no way of verifying what exactly it is.

 In EPEL..

 
https://centos.pkgs.org/7/epel-x86_64/gnome-desktop-devel-2.32.0-17.el7.x86_64.rpm.html

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Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[David Klann]

Hi Rich,

I have successfully swapped out Xfce for GNOME on several systems I help
maintain (running CentOS 7). Here's how I've done it:

 - sudo yum remove '@Xfce'
 - sudo yum --skip-broken install  '@^GNOME Desktop'

The "@" symbols refer to yum "groups": Xfce is a simple group, GNOME is
an "environment group" (see
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/40276/whats-the-difference-between-an-environment-group-and-group/
for info about environment groups).

The "--skip-broken" was needed because GNOME wants to install an ALSA
package (maybe alsa-firmware? I forget the details) that conflicts with
the Audio Science "hpklinux" package. Using "--skip-broken" leaves the
hpklinux package installed.

Hope this helps!

  ~David Klann


On 12/6/18 10:29 PM, Rich Stivers wrote:
> I appreciate all the people who responded to my inquiry regarding the
> Dell Optiplex 3060. I decided on this PC.
> 
> While I'm waiting for them to be delivered, I decided to build a Centos
> 7 Rivendell system on an older test computer
> using the Paravel Instructions -
> http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install/rivendell-install-rhel7.html
> 
> Everything went well but I have a few questions.
> 
> At the step for Mount Points -
> for /home, 100G is specified. Since I have a 1TB disc, could I specify
> 200G instead? Our sound files reside on a
> NAS Raid server so this drive doesn't need extra space in /var/snd.
> 
> The resulting desktop is Xfce instead of Gnome. Is Xfce better than
> Gnome? I had no problem with Gnome in Centos 6.
> If it's not too much trouble I'd like to bring back Gnome. Would this
> interfere with Rivendell in any way?
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[Cowboy]

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 07:09:06 -0500
Fred Gleason  wrote:

> Gnome on CentOS 7 is (alas) Gnome 3,

 By default, but it begs the question,
 gnome-desktop-2.32.0-17.el7.x86_64.rpm
 appears to be Gnome-2 for RHEL-7 !?
 

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Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[Fred Gleason]

On Dec 6, 2018, at 23:29, Rich Stivers  wrote:

> At the step for Mount Points -
> for /home, 100G is specified. Since I have a 1TB disc, could I specify 200G 
> instead? Our sound files reside on a
> NAS Raid server so this drive doesn't need extra space in /var/snd.

Yes, you can tweak those sizes to be whatever is optimal for your situation. 
The main point of that installation step is to *not* use ‘Automatic 
Partitioning’, which will end up allocating most of your space to ‘/home’ and 
almost none to ‘/var/snd’, which is severely non-optimal for a stand-alone 
Rivendell system.


> The resulting desktop is Xfce instead of Gnome. Is Xfce better than Gnome? I 
> had no problem with Gnome in Centos 6.
> If it's not too much trouble I'd like to bring back Gnome. Would this 
> interfere with Rivendell in any way?

It all depends on what you mean by ‘better’. Gnome on CentOS 7 is (alas) Gnome 
3, which not only is the resource hog of the century but also copies every bad 
feature possible from Windows 8. We ended up settling on XFCE because it is 
fast, lightweight and customizable. Remember, this is a tool for keeping your 
station on the air and sounding good, neither more nor less. You really neither 
need nor want a desktop that tries to ‘entertain’ your air staff. A simple 
program launcher generally suffices.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Questions On Paravel Centos 7 Rivendell Build

[Gabriele Fergola]

Hello Rich,
fro my point of view u will not have problem to increase size of your
partitions also because u can mount /var/snd from nas/san so u don't need
space for /var/snd.

For gnome u can try also because from the manager u can always decide which
desktop run and if u find any trouble with gnome u can use xfce.

But anyway wait some other answer.

Regards
Gabriele
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