Re: [rkward-devel] select feature for data editor

2014-11-06 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi!

On Monday 03 November 2014 12:47:13 meik michalke wrote:
 since one of my colleagues started working with RKWard, he's a constant
 stream of inspiration ;-)
 
 he noticed it is only possible to select data in the data editor by single
 row/column or complete blocks of rows/columns. he would expect that if you
 press ctrl while selecting rows/columns, that you could toggle their
 select state individually.

Possible in principle, but a bunch of code currently works on the assumption 
that there can only be one contiguous selection (copying, pasting while a 
selection is active, deleting while a selection is active). Each of these will 
have to be adjusted, carefully. There are also some tricky questions attached, 
such as how should Paste inside selection work in this case: Should 
selection gaps be skipped in the data to paste, or should the data to paste be 
shifted?

Not something I'd like to start on, now. Could you put in on the RFE tracker?

Regards
Thomas

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Re: [rkward-devel] Moving to KDE.org

2014-11-06 Thread Mario Fux
Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2014, 13.16:51 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
 Hi all, hi Mario!

Good morning Thomas and all

Sorry for the delay in answering this email but the flu season is starting and 
my family and me already won two times ;-).

 I think the time has come to pin this down, and declare that the RKWard
 project is going to move to KDE.org, and the KDE community!

Great. Let me be the first to tell you: Welcome to KDE :-).

 This is not going to be completed in a week or two, but we'll try to make
 the transition as smooth as possible. The key point of this mail is to lay
 out a rough plan, and start thinking about the first steps.

And I setup an incubator page for Rkward:
https://community.kde.org/Incubator/Projects/Rkward

Don't hesitate to add stuff, items or information (it's a wiki after all) or 
ask me for help.

 One small exception to our move to KDE is that we intend to establish a
 small side-kick project on github.com, as a semi-official place to develop
 external plugins, i.e. those that are not (or not yet) targetted to be
 included in the official releases. This would need a separate git
 repository in the first place, and the idea is that this is a bit closer
 to the R community (but also matches well with the whole concept of
 external plugins). Not sure, whether this would strictly fall under the
 continuity requirement of KDE.org, but it certainly should not be a
 problem to give KDE sysadmins admin access to this.

If I understand it correctly you plan to move the source code to KDE's git 
repos and have another close/copy of the repo on github.com. I don't see a 
problem. How will you merge features? You might as well use 
reviewboard.kde.org to encourage contributions by people that don't yet have a 
KDE developer account.

 For the rest, the plan is roughly as follows, I think:
 
 1. Prepare any required formalities. Mario, please comment.

I don't see much formalitites so: done ;-).

 2. Give KDE sysadmins admin access to the SF-project, in order to ensure
 continuity in case we diasppear in the middle of the transition. Mario, I'm
 sure, there is an SF-account for this, already. Which?

Get in contact with the KDE sysadmins via http://sysadmin.kde.org/tickets/

 3. Have our SVN-repo imported to a git-repo on git.kde.org. This is going
 to require a bit of preparation - see below.

People like Nivolás Alvarez (PovAddict(W)) or Jeremy Whiting (jwhiting) might 
help. They are used to migrate SVN repos to Git. In paranthesis you find their 
nicknames on IRC. Mine is unormal btw. Don't hesitate to ping me if you need 
anything. Oh and I CC: these guys ;-).

 4. Move translations from launchpad?
 5. In no particular order, move website, mailing lists, and downloads to
 KDE.org. Also forums, although, for those, it should be good enough to
 archive existing posts, statically, and simply open new forum(s) on
 forum.kde.org. 6. Move bug tracker. This one should not happen too early,
 as there are non- redirecting links to the bug tracker in all RKWard
 versions up to 0.6.1.

Sounds reasonable.

 Well, 1 and 2 should not take much time, I hope. For moving to git, here
 are some things we need to take care of / decide:
 
 - SVN author accounts have to be converted to git format, i.e. full name
 and email address. For those planning or considering to commit in the
 future, this should match the email used for your identity.kde.org account
 (if you don't have one, yet, get one, now!). Even if you do not plan to
 register at identity.kde.org (yet), it may still make sense to provide a
 current email address. I'll contact all past and present committers, and
 will fall back to accountn...@users.sf.net.
 - branches/external_plugins needs to be split out, somehow, as it is not
 really a branch in the git-sense. As noted above, it probably makes sense
 to import this branch to github.com. In fact, there is little reason not
 to go ahead on this one, yet. Volunteers?
 - branches/jss_dec_10 needs to be split, out, too. This branch is
 interesting for archiving, only.
 - Seasoned git users, please advise: Is there any point in keeping
 obsoleted release-branches, and fully merged development branches, or
 should these simply be dropped in the import? Or would they be dropped
 _after_ the import, in order to keep full commit history?
 - Beyond this, there is quite a bit of inconsistency regarding naming of
 branches and tags. I'd like to fix that. Is that best to be done before,
 during, or after the import?

Ok, not much I can help other than finding people with knowledge about this.

 - Finally, I'm not sure, whether there are any uniform push-rules for git
 repositories on KDE.org. Mario? We certainly want to block
 non-fast-forwarded commits. But beyond this I don't really have a clue on
 git administration. Anybody?

The KDE sysadmin will help you and tell about our infrastructure with their 
hooks and possibilities.

 Well, enough to chew on for one mail. We'll worry about steps 4 

Re: [rkward-devel] Moving to KDE.org

2014-11-06 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2014-11-06 19:10 GMT-03:00 Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org:
 3. Have our SVN-repo imported to a git-repo on git.kde.org. This is going
 to require a bit of preparation - see below.
 - SVN author accounts have to be converted to git format, i.e. full name
 and email address. For those planning or considering to commit in the
 future, this should match the email used for your identity.kde.org account
 (if you don't have one, yet, get one, now!). Even if you do not plan to
 register at identity.kde.org (yet), it may still make sense to provide a
 current email address. I'll contact all past and present committers, and
 will fall back to accountn...@users.sf.net.

What we need for the git conversion is a plaintext file with:

svnuser1 Real Name em...@example.org
svnuser2 John Doe john...@example.com

 - branches/external_plugins needs to be split out, somehow, as it is not
 really a branch in the git-sense. As noted above, it probably makes sense
 to import this branch to github.com. In fact, there is little reason not
 to go ahead on this one, yet. Volunteers?
 - branches/jss_dec_10 needs to be split, out, too. This branch is
 interesting for archiving, only.
 - Seasoned git users, please advise: Is there any point in keeping
 obsoleted release-branches, and fully merged development branches, or
 should these simply be dropped in the import? Or would they be dropped
 _after_ the import, in order to keep full commit history?
 - Beyond this, there is quite a bit of inconsistency regarding naming of
 branches and tags. I'd like to fix that. Is that best to be done before,
 during, or after the import?

In general it's best not to move things around in SVN now. For
example, if branches have inconsistent names, we need to put those
inconsistent names in the conversion rules anyway in order to get the
history, so renaming them now only makes the conversion more complex.

External plugins can be easily split into separate git repositories
during the same conversion.

For the rest, I'd have to look at the SVN history to give definite
answers. Where is the repository, in Sourceforge? Is it possible to
clone the SVN repository (not a checkout, the actual repo with all the
history) via rsync or something? If not, I can use svnsync, but that
takes longer :)

 - Finally, I'm not sure, whether there are any uniform push-rules for git
 repositories on KDE.org. Mario? We certainly want to block
 non-fast-forwarded commits.

Non-fast-forward pushes (force pushes) and branch deletions are only
allowed for the repository owners. You'll have to decide who that
will be.

-- 
Nicolás

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Re: [rkward-devel] Moving to KDE.org

2014-11-06 Thread Jeremy Whiting
Thomas,

Hello, I'm one of the guys that has helped with svn to git migrations
in KDE and have some help I may offer here. Comments below.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote:
 Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2014, 13.16:51 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
 Hi all, hi Mario!

 Good morning Thomas and all

 Sorry for the delay in answering this email but the flu season is starting and
 my family and me already won two times ;-).

 I think the time has come to pin this down, and declare that the RKWard
 project is going to move to KDE.org, and the KDE community!

 Great. Let me be the first to tell you: Welcome to KDE :-).

 This is not going to be completed in a week or two, but we'll try to make
 the transition as smooth as possible. The key point of this mail is to lay
 out a rough plan, and start thinking about the first steps.

 And I setup an incubator page for Rkward:
 https://community.kde.org/Incubator/Projects/Rkward

 Don't hesitate to add stuff, items or information (it's a wiki after all) or
 ask me for help.

 One small exception to our move to KDE is that we intend to establish a
 small side-kick project on github.com, as a semi-official place to develop
 external plugins, i.e. those that are not (or not yet) targetted to be
 included in the official releases. This would need a separate git
 repository in the first place, and the idea is that this is a bit closer
 to the R community (but also matches well with the whole concept of
 external plugins). Not sure, whether this would strictly fall under the
 continuity requirement of KDE.org, but it certainly should not be a
 problem to give KDE sysadmins admin access to this.

 If I understand it correctly you plan to move the source code to KDE's git
 repos and have another close/copy of the repo on github.com. I don't see a
 problem. How will you merge features? You might as well use
 reviewboard.kde.org to encourage contributions by people that don't yet have a
 KDE developer account.

 For the rest, the plan is roughly as follows, I think:

 1. Prepare any required formalities. Mario, please comment.

 I don't see much formalitites so: done ;-).

 2. Give KDE sysadmins admin access to the SF-project, in order to ensure
 continuity in case we diasppear in the middle of the transition. Mario, I'm
 sure, there is an SF-account for this, already. Which?

 Get in contact with the KDE sysadmins via http://sysadmin.kde.org/tickets/

 3. Have our SVN-repo imported to a git-repo on git.kde.org. This is going
 to require a bit of preparation - see below.

 People like Nivolás Alvarez (PovAddict(W)) or Jeremy Whiting (jwhiting) might
 help. They are used to migrate SVN repos to Git. In paranthesis you find their
 nicknames on IRC. Mine is unormal btw. Don't hesitate to ping me if you need
 anything. Oh and I CC: these guys ;-).

 4. Move translations from launchpad?
 5. In no particular order, move website, mailing lists, and downloads to
 KDE.org. Also forums, although, for those, it should be good enough to
 archive existing posts, statically, and simply open new forum(s) on
 forum.kde.org. 6. Move bug tracker. This one should not happen too early,
 as there are non- redirecting links to the bug tracker in all RKWard
 versions up to 0.6.1.

 Sounds reasonable.

 Well, 1 and 2 should not take much time, I hope. For moving to git, here
 are some things we need to take care of / decide:

 - SVN author accounts have to be converted to git format, i.e. full name
 and email address. For those planning or considering to commit in the
 future, this should match the email used for your identity.kde.org account
 (if you don't have one, yet, get one, now!). Even if you do not plan to
 register at identity.kde.org (yet), it may still make sense to provide a
 current email address. I'll contact all past and present committers, and
 will fall back to accountn...@users.sf.net.
 - branches/external_plugins needs to be split out, somehow, as it is not
 really a branch in the git-sense. As noted above, it probably makes sense
 to import this branch to github.com. In fact, there is little reason not
 to go ahead on this one, yet. Volunteers?
 - branches/jss_dec_10 needs to be split, out, too. This branch is
 interesting for archiving, only.
 - Seasoned git users, please advise: Is there any point in keeping
 obsoleted release-branches, and fully merged development branches, or
 should these simply be dropped in the import? Or would they be dropped
 _after_ the import, in order to keep full commit history?
 - Beyond this, there is quite a bit of inconsistency regarding naming of
 branches and tags. I'd like to fix that. Is that best to be done before,
 during, or after the import?

 Ok, not much I can help other than finding people with knowledge about this.

Ok, some information about doing svn to git migrations can be found
here: https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git how
we've done it in kde is to have a sync of the subversion