Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
hi finn, thanks for looking after it! Am Montag 30 März 2009 13:11:02 schrieb stfs: Compiling now works. that's a relief :-) I first installed it the '.deb' way (ie. making the deb and double click it). Rkward could be started from command line but not from menu. Menu had no icon. I believe the reason is that /usr/local/bin/rkward does not exist. if you're looking for something to be installed in /usr/local i wonder how you created the .deb package? did you use the diff i created for hardy? o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/rkward_0.5.0c-test5-1~hardy1.diff.gz (see below how to apply it) what does the command which rkward return? in general, if you compile software from source via make or something similar, it usually gets installed in /usr/local/(bin|share|lib...), to not mess up the distribution's installation (i.e. overwriting files that belong to a package, make install will not warn you if it does so). official distribution packages on the other hand usually install to /usr/(bin|share|lib...), so do the .deb packages thomas is providing. moreso, a .deb should *not* install to /usr/local, to not overwrite your own compiled programs. you could say, everything in /usr/local is your personal playground, and debian packages should stick to /usr instead. the trouble especially with ubuntu 8.04 is that rkward 0.5.0 is a kde4 application, and that this version of ubuntu expects the installation of all kde4 stuff to /usr/lib/kde4/(bin|share|lib...) -- that's why you had to add that to your PATH prior to compilation, because it is not a common path... (ubuntu 8.10 puts everything in /usr again, so we're not in any path trouble there). alltogether, you should look for the rkward binary in /usr/lib/kde4/bin, and check if the menu entry tries to start /usr/lib/kde4/bin/rkward (with full path). this actually should be accomplished by the diff above: - get rkward_0.5.0c-test5.orig.tar.gz from http://rkward.sourceforge.net/temp/ - get rkward_0.5.0c-test5-1~hardy1.diff.gz from above - tar xzvf rkward_0.5.0c-test5.orig.tar.gz - cd rkward_0.5.0c-test5 - zcat ../rkward_0.5.0c-test5-1~hardy1.diff.gz | patch -p1 - chmod a+x debian/rules - export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin - fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -b -D - dpkg -i ../rkward_0.5.0c-test5-1~hardy1_i386.deb have you tried to install the precompiled ubuntu .deb yet? o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/rkward_0.5.0c-test5-1~hardy1_i386.deb Finally I found the 'deleted' menu as an xdg-file in ~/.local/share/applications/ as soon as I deleted it from there it turned up in the menu with an icon and working too. whenever you change a menu setting, a local copy with those changes will be createrd in ~/.local/share/applications/, which will then be used instead of the system files. please make sure that there isn't any rkward file left here to test if the system wide installation works. Right now I think there may be a problem with the .deb (it does not appear to create /usr/local/bin/rkward). as explained above, it's not supposed to ;-) This file was created by source install instead. which is correct, but not for the .deb file. could you give the precompiled version another try or test the compilation as described above? viele gruesse :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke abt. fur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie institut fur experimentelle psychologie heinrich-heine-universitat dusseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
Hi Meik, On Monday 30 March 2009, meik michalke wrote: yes, i guess that's because the kde4 binaries are not in path by default. to compile rkward on ubuntu 8.04 you must export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin first, then kde4-config will be found and package building should work. in case you're working to provide ubuntu packages of the final release (I'd sure appreciate that): Couldn't you simply add that path adjustment in the rules? Also, is Finn right, and the RKWard binary gets installed to a location not in the default search path? Does setting -DBIN_INSTALL_DIR on the cmake command line help? Else, should the rkward (and rkward.bin) perhaps be linked into /usr/bin/? Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
hi finn, [btw, answering to the list is sufficient.] am Montag, 30. März 2009 (16:55) schrieb stfs: what does the command which rkward return? immediately after the .deb install it returned nothing. which is to be expected because of the PATH issue. it should appear after doing the export thing. this is normal. After source install it returned /usr/local/bin/rkward so /usr/local/bin is in your PATH. After uninstalling everything rkward and deleting everything with rkward in it I tried but it says 'Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs5' that's odd -- thomas' package too should have the same dependency. this package contains the core libraries for all KDE 4 applications, so it *has* to be installed for any kde 4 app to run, hasn't it? was it perhaps uninstalled by accident? Tried apt-get install kdelibs5* but get a host of unmet dependencies try apt-get install kdelibs5 and install everything it depends on. (to install a *full* kde 4 desktop try apt-get install kde4) rkward will not start from menu or command line (the reason it starts from command line for some is, of course, that they use the same console they used to compile so the path contains /usr/lib/kde4/bin) Starting it directly with /usr/lib/kde4/bin/rkward seems to be working. No complaints and everything seems ok. i think we're half way through. it seems as if everything is as it should be, looking through ubuntu 8.04 glasses -- except for your menu entry. i can only assume that it wasn't patched. (which is the only difference between thomas' and my diff) i've asked a collegue of mine to test the package as well, he's running 8.04, too. Thanks for all the infomation and know that I, as a user, is deeply greatfull for the work you and the other devs are doing. thanks, that's nice :*) viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut fur experimentelle psychologie abt. fur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universitat dusseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
hi thomas, am Montag, 30. März 2009 (22:19) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: in case you're working to provide ubuntu packages of the final release (I'd sure appreciate that): sure, no problem. Couldn't you simply add that path adjustment in the rules? i thought about that, and now with the extra diff approach it shouldn't be much of a problem. this could have been a solution for the other PATH issues as well, i think. Also, is Finn right, and the RKWard binary gets installed to a location not in the default search path? yes, he's right -- and that goes for all kde 4 apps, none of which are in the default search path in ubuntu 8.04. that is because e.g. /usr/bin/konqueror is the kde 3.5 binary, and /usr/lib/kde4/bin/konqueror is the kde 4.1 one. they probably started this because kde 4 was to be installed parallel mainly for testing purposes. and since there is still a kde 3.5 rkward, i think we should keep up to this scheme, even though it seems odd. so, this not-in-path-installation is actually intended. it just leads to the need to patch the .desktop file, specifying the full path to rkward. the same goes for console. this way, one could have both rkwards at once -- but then i think we should rename the hardy package to rkward-kde4, shouldn't we? the konqeror package is called konqueror-kde4, to make that work, for instance. Else, should the rkward (and rkward.bin) perhaps be linked into /usr/bin/? i dont know how that would comply with the way the ubuntu developers would like kde 4 apps to be included. with my patch the menu entry should work, if that could be confirmed somehow ;-) viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut fur experimentelle psychologie abt. fur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universitat dusseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
On 2009-03-30 22:46, meik michalke wrote: hi finn, [btw, answering to the list is sufficient.] Sorry, I usually hit the reply all (when list address is cc) and delete non-list addresses, just didn't think about it for a few posts. am Montag, 30. März 2009 (16:55) schrieb stfs: what does the command which rkward return? immediately after the .deb install it returned nothing. which is to be expected because of the PATH issue. it should appear after doing the export thing. this is normal. After source install it returned /usr/local/bin/rkward so /usr/local/bin is in your PATH. After uninstalling everything rkward and deleting everything with rkward in it I tried but it says 'Dependency is not satisfiable: kdelibs5' that's odd -- thomas' package too should have the same dependency. this package contains the core libraries for all KDE 4 applications, so it *has* to be installed for any kde 4 app to run, hasn't it? was it perhaps uninstalled by accident? I get the same in ubuntu intrepid 8.10 with the 'sid' .deb package (0.5.0c release) Thomas just announced. When I create it locally it works fine (except for minor issue below). I also (this is my work machine and must function) have the source-install which responds to 'which' and is found first in the path. 'whereis rkward' gives me /usr/bin/rkward /usr/bin/rkward.bin /usr/local/bin/rkward /usr/local/bin/rkward.bin /usr/share/man/man1/rkward.1.gz When I start rkward explicitly with '/usr/bin/rkward' it complains about missing plugins (the 'Plugins are needed' dialog) but it is fully functional and the pluginmap can be located via the menu. Tried apt-get install kdelibs5* but get a host of unmet dependencies try apt-get install kdelibs5 and install everything it depends on. (to install a *full* kde 4 desktop try apt-get install kde4) It was already done (both regular and devel) - there were no obvious missing things. I suspect it is something to do with differences between Debian and ubuntu. That step actually ended in a broken rkward package I had to remove. rkward will not start from menu or command line (the reason it starts from command line for some is, of course, that they use the same console they used to compile so the path contains /usr/lib/kde4/bin) Starting it directly with /usr/lib/kde4/bin/rkward seems to be working. No complaints and everything seems ok. i think we're half way through. it seems as if everything is as it should be, looking through ubuntu 8.04 glasses -- except for your menu entry. i can only assume that it wasn't patched. (which is the only difference between thomas' and my diff) i've asked a collegue of mine to test the package as well, he's running 8.04, too. Thanks for all the infomation and know that I, as a user, is deeply greatfull for the work you and the other devs are doing. thanks, that's nice :*) viele grüße :: m.eik Regards Finn -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
hi thomas, am Montag, 30. März 2009 (23:33) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: I see, I wasn't aware of that. i'm pretty confused myself... Yet, considering our package won't be *in* ubuntu 8.04, only *for* ubuntu 8.04, I don't think we need to feel obliged to support a parallel installation. That's just my 2 cents, though. Just do what you think is best. i'd rather keep it the way the distribution packagers intended it to be, just to be on the safe side. if that's ok. please check these out: o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/rkward-kde4_0.5.0c-1~hardy1_i386.deb o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/rkward-kde4_0.5.0c-1~hardy1.diff.gz o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/rkward-kde4_0.5.0c-1~hardy1_i386.changes viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut fur experimentelle psychologie abt. fur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universitat dusseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
Am Sunday 29 March 2009 21:57:34 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: Hi all, many thanks for all your testing efforts so far. While I'm deferring many of the reported issues to the time after the release, I'm starting to feel confident that we've found and fixed the most serious showstoppers. I've just prepared a -test5 release, available at http://rkward.sf.net/temp/ . If you've tested some of the previous -test releases, you will not find too many differences, but it would still be nice, if you could make sure, the installation and basic features continue to work. Barring further grave problems, I'll try to roll up the final release on Monday or Tuesday. Regards Thomas Works on Debian/Sid with R 2.9.0~20090327-1 when started from a console without any issues so far. -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
Thomas Friedrichsmeier escribió: Hi all, many thanks for all your testing efforts so far. While I'm deferring many of the reported issues to the time after the release, I'm starting to feel confident that we've found and fixed the most serious showstoppers. I've just prepared a -test5 release, available at http://rkward.sf.net/temp/ . If you've tested some of the previous -test releases, you will not find too many differences, but it would still be nice, if you could make sure, the installation and basic features continue to work. Barring further grave problems, I'll try to roll up the final release on Monday or Tuesday. Regards Thomas Working fine on Slamd64 with R 2.7.2 :-) -- Mancho signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.0c-test5
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:23 PM, stfs s...@fs-analyse.dk wrote: On 2009-03-29 21:57, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: Hi all, many thanks for all your testing efforts so far. While I'm deferring many of the reported issues to the time after the release, I'm starting to feel confident that we've found and fixed the most serious showstoppers. I've just prepared a -test5 release, available at http://rkward.sf.net/temp/ . If you've tested some of the previous -test releases, you will not find too many differences, but it would still be nice, if you could make sure, the installation and basic features continue to work. Barring further grave problems, I'll try to roll up the final release on Monday or Tuesday. Regards Thomas I tested it on ubuntu 8.10 32bit Desktop (both on my production machine and a vanilla installation). Everything appears to be working - it really works like a charm :) Works fine (32-bit Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2.1 and R 2.8.1 from CRAN's ubuntu repo) on my end too... Can start it from konsole as well as KMenu. The kde4-config thing was a wise thing to do. -- Prasenjit -- ___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
