Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2012-01-14 Thread Aleksey Bragin
I propose to branch right today (unless there are strong reasons not to) and wait till time decided on the meeting for the fix/hackfix expires. When the (hack)fix is found it would just be merged in to the release branch, or when the time expires the branch is going to be released as is (as

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
+1 to Caemyr On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:15 PM, cae...@myopera.com wrote: It is NOT a vbox issue. If we release with this bug, it will bite us back for long. Sometimes, its better to delay than to release a bugger. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 18-12-2011 22:49,

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Igor Paliychuk
Are you suggesting to start mm rewrite before release? Don't think this would be fast. 2011/12/19 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo elh...@gmail.com +1 to Caemyr On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 11:15 PM, cae...@myopera.com wrote: It is NOT a vbox issue. If we release with this bug, it will bite us

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Adam
Thing is that this is a pre-alpha operating system. The 0.x basically indicates it is not finished. Sure the release should be special but strictly speaking it should be done. The new MM can wait (IMO) up until 0.3.15 - there's little point worrying about it in the next release. So long as this

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Pierre Schweitzer
Le lundi 19 décembre 2011 à 22:08 +1100, Adam a écrit : So long as this isn't a blocker (ie. one can just use 128MB instead of 64MB to resolve this) then you may as well release it. And when it doesn't work with 256MB, we try 512MB? Your workaround appears not to work

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Aleksey Bragin
Yes, that's what I'm appealing to. Though I really wish our OS becomes mature enough, 0.3.14 is not a release advised for production usage. I highly appreciate Olaf's efforts to raise the quality of every release, though. And whenever possible I agree with his arguments and just sit down and

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Igor Paliychuk
I have purpose: we should create a plan of features/fixes after release that should be done before the next release and assign every point to some devs. This would make developing more coordinate and avoid in future such cases that we have now(i mean people began to test/investigate mshtml bug

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread victor martinez
Hi! I've been against releasing in this current state mainly because the bad PR related to this action. In one pan of the scales we have the Bad PR because releasing with a noticeable bug, in the other pan Bad PR because not releasing since more than X months ago. Not releasing affects the PR

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread victor martinez
Wasn't the best way to avoid the issue just to disable VT-X in the VM configuration under VBOX?Or doesn't this trick work always? We can add a explicit message as Ey,you!If you are using VboX greater than 4.0 and you face this issue, just disable VT-X for now and done! If there is a way that

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Igor Paliychuk
Yeah and if you do'y have VT-X support just go and cry ;) 2011/12/19 victor martinez vicmar...@hotmail.com Wasn't the best way to avoid the issue just to disable VT-X in the VM configuration under VBOX?Or doesn't this trick work always? We can add a explicit message as Ey,you!If you are

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 19.12.2011 17:30, schrieb victor martinez: Wasn't the best way to avoid the issue just to disable VT-X in the VM configuration under VBOX?Or doesn't this trick work always? We can add a explicit message as Ey,you!If you are using VboX greater than 4.0 and you face this issue, just disable

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Timo Kreuzer
Am 19.12.2011 15:15, schrieb victor martinez: Because all of these, I am agree with releasing but just, and only just, if the next actions are done in order to mitigate the bad PR impact that we will suffer for sure: 1)Adding a message,during 1st stage or before running 2nd stage, warning

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Cameron Gutman
On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Timo Kreuzer wrote: Am 19.12.2011 15:15, schrieb victor martinez: 3)Adding a massive DPRINTing in the MM and friends to find a clue about why MM is going nuts. Doesn't sound good to me. Massive DPRINTs just make the system slow and usually don't give a

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Aleksey Bragin
On 19.12.2011 21:02, Cameron Gutman wrote: The only problem I have with delaying the release is that we're getting more and more out of date with Wine and some great patches are waiting on the release. My vote would be to branch now, run 0.3.14 tests on the branch, then resume trunk

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread Pierre Schweitzer
Le lundi 19 décembre 2011 à 21:24 +0400, Aleksey Bragin a écrit : On 19.12.2011 21:02, Cameron Gutman wrote: The only problem I have with delaying the release is that we're getting more and more out of date with Wine and some great patches are waiting on the release. My vote would be to

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread caemyr
Cameron I think this is a general retort about how blockers should be treated (aka ignore it, just increase the RAM in VM). On Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Cameron Gutman wrote: I'm not sure where people keep getting that idea. It isn't and never was a RAM size issue and balancer has

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-19 Thread caemyr
Please DO NOT tie this bug with VT-x. On iCore series CPU host, this bug will happen even with VT-x is enabled. In this case, only nested paging enabled will mitigate the bug. If nested paging will stop helping in this case for any reason, my testbot machine is out of business. On Mon, Dec

[ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Aleksey Bragin
Hi, as the results of the trunk testing depict, there are no major problems/regressions (compared to the previous release). Thus I propose to branch the 0.3.14 release. Any comments, motivated objections? If not, then branching will be done on Monday, 18th of December 2011. WBR, Aleksey

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Aleksey Bragin
On 18.12.2011 21:08, Aleksey Bragin wrote: Any comments, motivated objections? If not, then branching will be done on Monday, 18th of December 2011. Capt. Obvious suggests that Monday is 19th. WBR, Aleksey. ___ Ros-dev mailing list

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 18-12-2011 18:08, Aleksey Bragin schreef: as the results of the trunk testing depict, there are no major problems/regressions (compared to the previous release). Thus I propose Those tests were only related to installing running/using applications on an installed ReactOS? Any

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Igor Paliychuk
This bug will not be fixed before release. It needs a lot of new code. 2011/12/18 Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl Op 18-12-2011 18:08, Aleksey Bragin schreef: as the results of the trunk testing depict, there are no major problems/regressions (compared to the previous release). Thus I propose

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 18-12-2011 18:57, Igor Paliychuk schreef: This bug will not be fixed before release. It needs a lot of new code. That kinda contradicts the earlier statement there are no major problems/regressions (compared to the previous release) as 0.3.13 didn't suffer from such an issue. I guess it's

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread caemyr
Gecko is not a problem. This bug is not happening with mshtml only, but with other libs alltogether. I am still against releasing with this bug unfixed. Since it will probably happen anyway, can we postpone it at least until tuesday? There is another issue that should be looked into, copying of

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread caemyr
We dont have much time if we'd want 0.3.14 out by the end of the year. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo wrote: we can always release 0.3.14-rc1, -rc2 and so :P On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Igor Paliychuk mansoni...@gmail.comwrote: *Bernd Blaauw*

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread Aleksey Bragin
Try other virtual machines for now, this is the only thing I can advise until it's fixed. VMWare Workstation (Player), Parallels Workstation, they don't exhibit the bug. On 19.12.2011 1:40, Pierre Schweitzer wrote: +#5857. I still can't use ReactOS. This is a major regression. This is a

Re: [ros-dev] 0.PI branching

2011-12-18 Thread caemyr
It is NOT a vbox issue. If we release with this bug, it will bite us back for long. Sometimes, its better to delay than to release a bugger. On Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 18-12-2011 22:49, Aleksey Bragin schreef: Try other virtual machines for now, this is the only