Re: [ros-dev] reactos and linux
You're talking about Cooperative Linux. This is already open-source and free (as in beer). Else you can check out the Linux Unified Kernel (also free). ReactOS already uses a lot of code from Wine, which is a compatibility layer for Linux, so you can run .exe or .deb files in Linux. Feel free to test CoLinux on ReactOS and file a compatibility report. Other than that, I don't see what use you have besides trying to convince the devs that Linux is something better than Linux. Or trying to sell us free software. This is almost as bad as the con artists trying to sell copies of ReactOS on eBay like it's a fully-functioning OS. If the ebay sell is not successful, the project andlinux will integrate reactos. Translation: All your code are belong to us. Resistance is futile. :) You're in a mailing list with a bunch of guys that program operating systems for fun. Trying to sell them Linux like they don't know what it is is kind of pointless. -Joshua Bailey From: Max petersonm...@googlemail.com To: ReactOS Development List ros-dev@reactos.org Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 12:27:07 AM Subject: Re: [ros-dev] reactos and linux andlinux.org is a linux system, which is LIVE present at the windows install and allows you to use 2 systems parrallel live: Windows and Linux, so that users can install exe and deb installers at the same time. Integrating into reactos woould allow to create an open source operating system, which allows users to install anything they want: windows apps and linux apps. So a merge or integration is intended. If the ebay sell is not successful, the project andlinux will integrate reactos. The question here is to ask, if reactos is as well interested to have the option of linux integrated and to merge, then this couldbe released as well under this domain. Otherwise a third project needs to be released, using both codes and maybe a new name. If there is any interest to bring both under one hood, then this is the discussion thread. ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] Arwinss presentation
I'm not a developer, so I have no say in the matter, but if you want an outsider's opinion, I would suggest implementing Arwinss for the near-term, so we have better software compatibility. Software compatibility brings publicity, since people will actually be able to do things with ReactOS that they couldn't do before, like run Win32 programs. A lot of the software I test has issues with Win32, and if Arwinss gets them running in the near- term it'll show people the real potential of ReactOS. Some of these people may be programmers, who can then funnel their interest in ReactOS towards contributing to development. Arwinss is a stopgap measure. Regardless of your personal differences in the matter, use Arwinss to gather publicity and near-term compatibility, so development can be focused on other issues, such as DirectX, USB support, or better filesystem support. When the other components are up and running, when we have a functioning ReactOS in beta, hopefully the publicity that will follow ReactOS's progress will have added to the pool of developers. This larger pool of developers will then have the manpower to re-implement a more native Win32 subsystem. While everyone in an open-source project is technically free to go as they please, perhaps the current pool of developers could have a gentleman's agreement to fix the native Win32 when the rest of the Windows components are up and running. Everybody seems to agree that the current Win32 is a monster, so use Arwinss to rally more troops to battle the beast. Even when the native Win32 is fixed, there may be a place for Arwinss where the optional features it offers can be used. Specialized deployments of ReactOS could take advantage of Arwinss, though the main branch of ReactOS would re-implement the native Win32. A corporation that likes the X Server features of Arwinss might decide to sponsor ReactOS, and that assistance could be used to progress the rest of the project as a whole. Don't forget native Win32, but let's see what opportunities Arwinss opens up for ReactOS. Perhaps the choice between Arwinss and native Win32 could be made at install. Arwinss would be the recommended package until native Win32 is fixed. For what it's worth, I'm looking forward to testing my personal list of benchmark software against Arwinss. :) -Joshua Bailey ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
[ros-dev] Wikipedia article changes, censorship
yes, I asked LoneRifle to remove the reference because I was preparing much better information (which has just been released yesterday) and didn't want people to read old incomplete info. So from now on you could use this information in our wikipedia article. If that was the case, that makes sense. Removing the information from the article outright, as opposed to simply waiting and updating the article with more detailed information when it was available might have been a better way of doing things so no red flags pop up, in my mind or the mind of others. Alternately, you, LoneRifle, or whoever is the one most in charge of maintaining the Wikipedia page should have at least noted that the information was going to be replaced with updated information so no other Wikipedia editors were left to assume that the information was simply going to disappear. Probably the only reason I didn't revert the changes immediately was because I wanted to ask the devs about it first to see if there was a misunderstanding. My desire to see ReactOS succeed was tempering my natural instinct to assume the worst about the situation. Betov already made accusations of ReactOS fans tampering with Wikipedia a while back, and while I don't believe that his claims are true, a random person reading Betov's accusations and then seeing that kind of a statement in the article's revision history might be more apt to be apprehensive about the project. Because of the bad rap ReactOS has gotten in the past, we have to be more careful to avoid feeding into any misinformation that has been spread about ReactOS. Hopefully you can see why I was concerned. It's cool now, we'll just have to do things a bit differently in the future. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Since that's cleared up, now I can sit around and get excited about Arwinss again. When should us testers expect to see a working Arwinss in the trunk builds to test? -Joshua Bailey ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
Re: [ros-dev] why wasnt ReactOS invited to GSoC? here is the answer....
This isn't really surprising at all. Google's used a customized Linux internally for a few years now, so it's not surprising that they would release a version to the public eventually. I bet the Ubuntu guys are pretty nervous right now, though. The big question is if Google can address the big issues that every other Linux distro has been struggling with for the past twenty years - inter-compatibility with other distros, software and hardware support, etc. If they can't get it together before ReactOS becomes stable, then we shouldn't worry too much. Not that we should take the news lightly, but a thought. -Joshua Bailey From: Matthew Therault matthew.thera...@gmail.com To: ReactOS Development List ros-dev@reactos.org Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:41:49 PM Subject: Re: [ros-dev] why wasnt ReactOS invited to GSoC? here is the answer Everyone kind of knew this would end up happening. They were saying this when they put out google docs. They thought that this eventually lead to a new OS. However, it isn't really new, just Linux with a google front end. Also here is a link to the blog for the people that only know english. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html 2009/7/8 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo elh...@gmail.com Seems that Google plans to release a Chrome platform to desktop pc´s http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/07/08/navegante/1247044337.html curse them ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev -- Two men walk into a bar... Third one ducks Think about it, it will come to you. :P ___ Ros-dev mailing list Ros-dev@reactos.org http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-dev
