Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [sedwards] 40919: imported the MT snapshot of the GPL tftp-server for win32 from sourceforge. Minor changes such as formatting and renaming the files, totally untested except

2009-05-15 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
So we are going to live with this
fact that it will only work with ReactOS

sad news

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, James Tabor jimtabor.ros...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi!

 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:03 AM, Peter Millerchip
 peter.millerc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've been lurking on this list for several years, but I have some
  thoughts about this issue so I hope you don't mind me posting now.
 
 Cool!

 Well, in short~ User32.dll~

 We have managed to get most of Gdi32.dll to work with XP and it is
 only halfway done, I haven't finished it yet. Now User32, it is hard
 to say, Win32 and User32 use interchangeable shared structures such as
 SERVERINFO and friends, not included, the ATOM callbacks. I had to sit
 and think about it for a while and I've concluded it would take years
 to work out and that was to long. So we are going to live with this
 fact that it will only work with ReactOS. I have also considered using
 known information about User32 structures, it is for the purpose of
 education and to give ideas how things do work in the Win/User
 interface.

 We can have theming and things like that in different branches after
 the smoke clears. I'm open to any ideas that would create a pleasant
 UI.

 Thanks,
 James
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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [sedwards] 40919: imported the MT snapshot of the GPL tftp-server for win32 from sourceforge. Minor changes such as formatting and renaming the files, totally untested except

2009-05-15 Thread Alexandru Lovin
Would it be possible to do it after ReactOS already relaces Windows, it's
stable, smaller memory footprint, etc. ? I mean, by then everyone will be so
excited about it, everybody would have already heard of it (definitely) and
they would already be keen to help or something. At which point the devs
pull out a list of things that should be done right: a,b,c, d, etc.
James Tabor: I need to warn you that this will take years to do right. We
already learned to live with the feeling of knowing this only works on ROS.

I'm thinking ROS will have fanboys who will come hungry to help someone so
that they're noticed.

Mr. Tabor, your thoughts ?

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, James Tabor jimtabor.ros...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi!

 2009/5/15 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo elh...@gmail.com:
  So we are going to live with this
  fact that it will only work with ReactOS
 
  sad news
 
 No not sad It is a testament of the hard work done by Thomas and
 other developers, getting it to work with wine and working out the
 issues of point to point API cross tests. This is not an easy task to
 go into! The little information we have is not going to help in the
 short term of getting user32 into a state of plug and run for XP or
 any version of Windows. We just don't have the resources and time to
 do the job right. I must add, the tools I had access to just is not
 enough. We need to compromise and live with this fact. Over all we can
 meet to an API level of compatibility and that is it. Walking away
 with some understanding how this interface works at the end of the
 day.

 Thanks,
 James

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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [sedwards] 40919: imported the MT snapshot of the GPL tftp-server for win32 from sourceforge. Minor changes such as formatting and renaming the files, totally untested except

2009-05-14 Thread KJK::Hyperion
Ged wrote:
 Another unix like addition?
 Do we really need this and the previous telnet server in our source?

to be fair, Windows does provide a command line TFTP client/server. So
far, I've only seen it used for malware spreading, but it's there and we
should provide one too
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Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [sedwards] 40919: imported the MT snapshot of the GPL tftp-server for win32 from sourceforge. Minor changes such as formatting and renaming the files, totally untested except

2009-05-14 Thread Steven Edwards
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, KJK::Hyperion hackbu...@reactos.org wrote:
 Ged wrote:
 Another unix like addition?
 Do we really need this and the previous telnet server in our source?

 to be fair, Windows does provide a command line TFTP client/server. So
 far, I've only seen it used for malware spreading, but it's there and we
 should provide one too

Where I work we use dhcpd/tftp and PXEboot on both Linux and Windows
to do automagical deployment services. The end goal with all of this
is a ReactOS deployment system from a single image that can provision
ReactOS thinkclients/diskless workstations without the need of a Linux
or Windows host.

Pushing out a freeldr or grub+freeldr or even pxelinux+grub+freeldr
image with a blob containing a ROS ramdisk should be pretty simple
using isc-dhcpd/tftp on Linux but I'm more interested in the
infrastructure side of things right now. Currently the dhcpd with PXE
support is the only part we are really missing. We COULD do it from
Linux or Windows right now, but I want to get all the infrastructure
in place where we don't need any other OS.

Thanks
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that is an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo
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