[Rosegarden-user] 1 way to export RG or any jack output to a *.wav file
Attached html file admins free to copy it wherever they like, I ain't signing up to the wiki, got too many freakin' memberships as is! Using jack_capture to copy rosegarden audio output as a *.wav file This guide is valid this day, tomorrow it could be totally obsolete, you have been warned. After having tried every which way to use ffmpeg to screencast audio with video or audio only but always without success as far as audio goes, I downloaded jack_capture and bingo! I didn't see any installation instructions so I just did this: Got jack_capture @ http://archive.notam02.no/arkiv/src/jack_capture-0.9.69.tar.gz unpacked it to my /0/comp/build-lin/xtra-progs/tarballs/ folder (use your own path) made a .jack_capture (dot jack_capture) folder in my home folder & copied the config file to it (else, error). entered make entered make install Thence, with jack runing, I enter jack_capture and the rosegarden output saves to a jack_capture_##.wav file in my home folder It should be a simple edit in the rosegarden code to include an "Export to wave file" menu item. A provisional workaround under KDE is to Save the following 3 lines as a text file under something like ~/command/jack-cast.txt & make it exetutable #!/bin/bash # saves to ~/jack_capture_##.wav konsole -e /usr/local/bin/jack_capture Place a "Quick Access" browser on your panel & set it up for directory ~/command using single or double click activation (trigger). Next time your rosegarden is ready to play something start jack_capture from your panel with a click and hit the rosegarden play button. When done hit enter into the terminal window opened for jack_capture. Copy out the generated jack_capture_##.wav file as desired. To turn it into an mp3 I done did ffmpeg -i jack_capture_##.wav whatever.mp3 00:25 EST 19-Oct-2012 ©Kalman Feher, use it freely until blue in the face if you like -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synths: ZYN sofar 2 of 5 ways
-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0400 From: "D. Michael McIntyre" Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synths: ZYN sofar 2 of 5 ways To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <507ffaa9.2050...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/16/2012 05:30 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: > I found this 2008 rosegarden tutorial by D. Michael McIntyre That jackass doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- I think he might have some inkling, alas knowing and being able to teach are often mutually exclusive so that students really get the short end What I'm struggling with isn't the particle physics bit but absolutely ab-initio basics and terminology where syths are instruments and instruments are channels to just sratch the surface. I'm minded of traditional linux anti-newbie lowballs like - "just mount it under /mnt and you'll be fine" - "do not confuse root with /" and so on :-) -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
I'd like to add that, at least in 12.04, an "all controllers reset" as well as any visible controllers in the Instrument Parameters box are sent at the start of each segment. I have some compositions that use separate overlapping segments in the same track for control data and notes, and the result is that in recent versions of Rosegarden the volume and panning get reset to their default values every time a new segment starts, sometimes during the middle of another segment on the same track. I tried to work around this by removing all the controllers from the Instrument Parameters pane via the Manage MIDI Devices dialog. But it seems like if the Volume and Pan controllers are hidden in this way then they are silently added back when the .rg file is saved, Rosegarden is closed, and then Rosegarden is launched again and the file re-opened. If I import a saved .rgd file with all controllers hidden every time I open the project then it seems to behave the way I want it to; that is, individual controller default values are no longer sent. The "all controllers reset" message is still always sent, however. Maybe in "fixed" mode the default values and all controllers reset should not be sent at the start of each segment, but just at the start of playback? This would maintain legacy behavior for people using fixed mode, although it may have implications for drum tracks which I think currently default to fixed. It makes sense to send the controllers for each segment in "auto" mode, because the new MIDI channel is probably not initialized for that track yet. I understand that I may not be using segments the way they are intended to be used, but I appreciated the ability to do this in previous versions! Thank you, and sorry to go off on a tangent (also apologies if this has already been fixed; my distro hasn't packaged 12.12 yet). -Michael J. Wilson -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
Thanks Michael and jmp for your explanations...
I just fired up my (simple) rg and noticed this, I'm in the middle of a
long project to be finished tomorrow (actually finishing off the boring
presentation thing right now), but thought I'd write to give a heads up,
will happily give some feedback and debug support if needed from next
week. At a quick look it seems the problem is also there if you are
playing back, so maybe it's something more trivial like jpm suggests.
Thanks again for the quick replies
Lorenzo.
On 18/10/12 15:02, j...@it-he.org wrote:
> Quoting Lorenzo Sutton :
>
>> This is on 12.12
>>
>> I'm not sure what is causing this but I can't seem to set MIDI channels
>> ('Instrument' in rosegarden lingo) properly. If I set the Channel mode
>> from 'auto' (unfortunately the default) and change a channel this is not
>> used correctly.
>> Additionally the auto mode seems to re-activate itself even when 'fixed'
>> was selected after changing the channel ('instrument').
>
> I've found that you sometimes have to switch back and forth from fixed
> to auto and back, but it seems to be a fairly rare occurrence. It
> occurs to me that it might be doing something like setting the
> drop-down but not actually using the setting itself under some
> specific circumstances. I haven't yet sat down to investigate it.
>
>> On a side note: the Channel auto thing seems to have broken all my .rg
>> file previous to its introduction. Does this mean that it has backward
>> broken .rg files?
>
> Mine all seem to work, but obviously I have to go through and set them
> all to 'fixed' because most of the synthesizers are monotimbral or
> otherwise use a fixed channel allocation scheme (different organ
> manuals etc).
>
>> Honestly I'm not sure what the auto mode really is and what it's for.
>> Has it something to do with track # -> channel #? I may sound old school
>> but I like to have full control of my midi channels on a sequencer.
>
> I think it uses a round-robin channel allocation scheme, where it uses
> the first free channel. That's handy on a GM synthesizer, but on
> everything else - basically all the expensive ones - it will make a
> mess.
>
>>
>> Lorenzo.
>>
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
Quoting Lorenzo Sutton :
> This is on 12.12
>
> I'm not sure what is causing this but I can't seem to set MIDI channels
> ('Instrument' in rosegarden lingo) properly. If I set the Channel mode
> from 'auto' (unfortunately the default) and change a channel this is not
> used correctly.
> Additionally the auto mode seems to re-activate itself even when 'fixed'
> was selected after changing the channel ('instrument').
I've found that you sometimes have to switch back and forth from fixed
to auto and back, but it seems to be a fairly rare occurrence. It
occurs to me that it might be doing something like setting the
drop-down but not actually using the setting itself under some
specific circumstances. I haven't yet sat down to investigate it.
> On a side note: the Channel auto thing seems to have broken all my .rg
> file previous to its introduction. Does this mean that it has backward
> broken .rg files?
Mine all seem to work, but obviously I have to go through and set them
all to 'fixed' because most of the synthesizers are monotimbral or
otherwise use a fixed channel allocation scheme (different organ
manuals etc).
> Honestly I'm not sure what the auto mode really is and what it's for.
> Has it something to do with track # -> channel #? I may sound old school
> but I like to have full control of my midi channels on a sequencer.
I think it uses a round-robin channel allocation scheme, where it uses
the first free channel. That's handy on a GM synthesizer, but on
everything else - basically all the expensive ones - it will make a
mess.
>
> Lorenzo.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synths: ZYN sofar 2 of 5 ways
On 10/16/2012 05:30 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: > I found this 2008 rosegarden tutorial by D. Michael McIntyre That jackass doesn't know what he's talking about anyway. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
On 10/18/2012 05:10 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Honestly I'm not sure what the auto mode really is and what it's for. > Has it something to do with track # -> channel #? I may sound old school > but I like to have full control of my midi channels on a sequencer. I'm afraid I don't have time just at the moment to look into what's going on. I'll get back to it one day soon, I promise. In the meantime, I can offer a brief explanation of what this is all about. It came about through a sort of round about process. Tom Breton noticed certain oddities concerning MIDI channels and ornaments, or something to that effect, and it all snowballed into some huge theoretical discussion over some weeks from there. Basically a segment is a little box that contains stuff, and for that paradigm to work as well as Tom thought it should, it would need to be possible for each segment to grab its own MIDI channel. Let's say you have two segments, each of which is using pitch bend controllers to manipulate notes in very specific ways. This works great when each segment sits by itself on a separate track, but if you put the two on the same track, overlapping in time, now the controllers conflict with each other. That's because these controllers act on a whole channel level, and they can't be constrained inside one of Rosegarden's logical constructs. So what if Rosegarden could allocate channels on the fly on an as needed basis? Let's say Instrument #3 needs to play events from two different segments that happen to conflict with each other. What if the Instrument could use channel 3 to play some of the notes, and then grab some unused channel, let's say it happens to be 13, to play the remaining notes? That was the question, more or less. It was just stupidly complicated beyond imagining, and when I gave Tom the green light to go ahead and carry out this ridiculously twisted and nightmarishly complicated scheme, I never remotely dreamed the crazy hacker would actually get the damn thing working well enough to suit me. I beat the crap out of it and sent it back to the drawing board a dozen times, and in the end, he solved all the problems I could find with it. I'll be surprised if there isn't some way for you to work with the new paradigm yourself, and achieve the results you're after. If not, I fully support raising the bar even higher and ironing all of this out somehow. We'll get there, Lorenzo. Thanks for your patience, and I'll get back to the meat of your problems as soon as I happen upon a day when I have a bit more free time. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Synths: other collections(?)
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, k...@trixtar.org wrote: > I have about 10 *.sf2 files in a folder, the 2 biggest ones are > > FluidR3_GM.sf2 149 mb > PC51f.sf263 mb > > and I suppose that each of them contain hundreds of musical instruments > just like Zyn does. > > I selected all of the sf2 files in the Qsynth setup "Soundfonts" > browser dialog so now when I open that dialog all 10 are there. > There seems to be NOTHING to do in that dialog except to sequence > them in a top down order with move up/down buttons. I presume > only one sf2 file can be selected at a time, and that one is > whichever one is at the top. You can create several instances (green cross on the bottom left) in Qsynth, each with another soundfont and MIDI-channel. That sould be the way to go. Bit I recommend using fluidsynth as synth plugin instruments in Rosegarden, each with its own soundfont. Latency is much better and Rosegarden remembers all settings. It's no problem having 3 instruments with FluidR3_GM.sf2, each with a different sound selected and 2 instruments with PC51f.sf2. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
This is on 12.12
I'm not sure what is causing this but I can't seem to set MIDI channels
('Instrument' in rosegarden lingo) properly. If I set the Channel mode
from 'auto' (unfortunately the default) and change a channel this is not
used correctly.
Additionally the auto mode seems to re-activate itself even when 'fixed'
was selected after changing the channel ('instrument').
Try this wit ha a midi monitor connected to rosegarden (e.g.
GMIDImonitor) and you'll see what I mean: create a small segment put
some random notes in, put it in repeat mode start playing and changing
the channels and setting channel to fixed. I can't seem to find a
reasonable logic in what's going on :|
Is all this a known bug?
On a side note: the Channel auto thing seems to have broken all my .rg
file previous to its introduction. Does this mean that it has backward
broken .rg files?
Honestly I'm not sure what the auto mode really is and what it's for.
Has it something to do with track # -> channel #? I may sound old school
but I like to have full control of my midi channels on a sequencer.
Lorenzo.
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