Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden still to 'aggressive' in sending Bank and Program changes?

[Ted Felix]

On 5/17/20 10:59 PM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

I'd like to do that but the Sourceforge platform will not let me register
or login -- it is seriously unfriendly, at least to this Linux user.


  That's strange.  It's always been really easy to work with in the 
past.  Maybe they are doing maintenance or something?  It does act funny 
every now and then.


Ted.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden still to 'aggressive' in sending Bank and Program changes?

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 17/05/20 14:37, Ted Felix wrote:

On 5/17/20 7:46 AM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

I agree.


   Lorenzo will be opening a feature request for this.  Be sure to vote 
for it or chime in in the comments.


Done! It's here:

https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/483/

Lorenzo


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden still to 'aggressive' in sending Bank and Program changes?

[Richard Bown]

On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 14:37, Ted Felix  wrote:

> On 5/17/20 5:43 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> > Rosegarden sends a Bank selection (CC 0 + CC 32) and Program change
> > every single time playback starts from the beginning (i.e. measure 1,
> > and this includes if you are looping with a measure which includes
> > measure 1).
>
>I was waiting for someone to complain about this.  Now that CCs are
> sorted, this needs to be looked at next.
>
>Please open a feature request and copy your message into it.
>
>Should be able to get this done for 20.12.
>

I agree that this feature makes no sense as a default and that a change is
long overdue! I also like the suggestion of making it a (very visible)
option.  If I'm not stating the obvious it might be useful to know why this
'feature' came about in the first place.  I was using a lot of VST
instruments and soft synths for testing at the time and of course these
wouldn't save their own state so this default was a workaround for that
behaviour and probably always should have been an option... I think the
role of the DAW has also changed a bit in the intervening years, rather
than aiming always to use it as a single point of truth, a lot of connected
equipment now has opinions and connectivity, plain and simple, is more
important than anything else.  This also makes me wonder again about JACK
midi of course but that's another story :)

R
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden still to 'aggressive' in sending Bank and Program changes?

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 18/05/20 16:55, Richard Bown wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 14:37, Ted Felix > wrote:


On 5/17/20 5:43 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
 > Rosegarden sends a Bank selection (CC 0 + CC 32) and Program change
 > every single time playback starts from the beginning (i.e.
measure 1,
 > and this includes if you are looping with a measure which includes
 > measure 1).

    I was waiting for someone to complain about this.  Now that CCs are
sorted, this needs to be looked at next.

    Please open a feature request and copy your message into it.

    Should be able to get this done for 20.12.


I agree that this feature makes no sense as a default and that a change 
is long overdue! I also like the suggestion of making it a (very 
visible) option.  If I'm not stating the obvious it might be useful to 
know why this 'feature' came about in the first place.  I was using a 
lot of VST instruments and soft synths for testing at the time and of 
course these wouldn't save their own state so this default was a 
workaround for that behaviour and probably always should have been an 
option... I think the role of the DAW has also changed a bit in the 
intervening years, rather than aiming always to use it as a single point 
of truth, a lot of connected equipment now has opinions and 
connectivity, plain and simple, is more important than anything else.  
This also makes me wonder again about JACK midi of course but that's 
another story :)


Thanks, that's a very interesting angle.

Maybe one thing I overlooked in my original email and in the feature 
request is that (of course), Rosegarden _should_ also transmit those 
when a file is opened! I guess that would cover that scenario?


Lorenzo



R


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