Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
On 04/12/2016 08:31 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > I agree that the delete button seems a little too easy. Maybe an > elaborate "are you sure" dialog would help? Though that might just lead > to tl;dr and a second click without thought. I thought about that, and whenever you put up hurdles like that, the hurdles get tedious, and they tend to get ignored completely. Blah, blah, blah, yes, yes, yes, oops. That's why I reworked a ton of those click through warning dialogs into the warning widget in the bottom right corner. Audio status, MIDI status, graphics, all that kind of stuff in one notification area that's visible and accessible, but not shoving itself in your face. I like how that turned out. It's probably one of the nicest improvements I ever made when I take time to remember what I did there. Those dialogs were irritating. "TIMING RESOLUTION TOO LOW, go recompile your kernel before you even evaluate whether Rosegarden is interesting or not!" Blah, blah, blah. > Copy-and-paste-ability seems like a good idea. It's helpful but not > too helpful. 'S what I'm thinking still. Never got around to implementing it. The Rosegarden rose got nipped by the cold. Damn it. Oh well, it's going to come back to life sooner or later, and I spent today using a tiller to work over its neighboring environment. I'm bushed. Finally catching up on like five years of neglect at my place. I seem to be over my depression, and I'm still married after all, to someone who clicks "like" on every trivial thing I say on Facebook. Life could be worse. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
On 04/12/2016 08:02 PM, Al Thompson wrote: > How about if the lockfile contained the username, machine name, and > time/date the file was opened. Then the dialog box could display that > information, That's exactly what we've got (great minds and all that). So, the user will know whether the file was opened on another computer. It would be up to them to walk over to the other user's office and ask if they are still editing that file, or if they crashed. I agree that the delete button seems a little too easy. Maybe an elaborate "are you sure" dialog would help? Though that might just lead to tl;dr and a second click without thought. Copy-and-paste-ability seems like a good idea. It's helpful but not too helpful. Ted. -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
On 04/12/2016 10:52 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > Why not a button to clear the lock ? > I thought about that, but it seems too tempting to invite users to just > click away a problem instead of taking the time to investigate and deal > with it. Couldn't you have a .rg file on a shared volume that was being > edited by instances of Rosegarden on two entirely separate computers? How about if the lockfile contained the username, machine name, and time/date the file was opened. Then the dialog box could display that information, with a button to delete the lockfile. -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting
Very good to know. Thank you! On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:50 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 04/11/2016 04:13 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > >>> I *might* download and compile it > > As of revision 14597, working with your Unnamed.rg file: > > When you find the whole notes that are too big for their measures, you > can select them and Adjust -> Notes... -> Tie Notes at Barlines > > When you find those three notes that are supposed to be in a separate > voice, you can select them and Segment -> New Layer From Selection > > This creates a new segment with the same properties as the current > working segment, cuts the notes out of the original, pastes them into > the new segment at the same place. They don't seem to move at all, > etc., and just change places. All I ended up doing was just stringing > together a bunch of off-the-shelf stuff in a new and time-saving way. I > folded together bits of code lifted from several places, and got it > knocked together in a couple of hours. > > There some issues with the new function I just added. > > * If you undo this operation, the notes move back where they came from, > but the new segment remains. I don't know how to solve that, so I left > the loose end for someone else to attack one of these days. > > * The rests come out just looking like hell. Rosegarden doesn't really > handle this overall situation very well at all. It's a hacky kludge > more than a real feature, and it always has been. I've been dealing > with it for years, because fixing it properly would be a very large > undertaking. One day I want to improve the way Rosegarden deals with > rests and such in alternative voice segments, but that is a big project, > and I have bite sized chunks of time. > > * I haven't made up an icon for the thing yet. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager > Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of > your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and > reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
On 04/12/2016 10:17 AM, Yves Guillemot wrote: >> contents of some pixels on the screen in a dialog is obnoxious when you >> have to clear a lock file after a crash. >> > Why not a button to clear the lock ? I thought about that, but it seems too tempting to invite users to just click away a problem instead of taking the time to investigate and deal with it. Couldn't you have a .rg file on a shared volume that was being edited by instances of Rosegarden on two entirely separate computers? In that case, a scan of the local machine for active Rosegarden processes would turn out negative, but the danger of losing work would be real enough. I also thought about a use at own risk command line option. --force-unlock or something like that. Whatever the solution, an improvement seems like a good plan. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
Le mardi 12 avril 2016, 08:57:35 D. Michael McIntyre a écrit : > I finally figured out what this is missing. The file location text > needs to be in some kind of selectable area, so you can grab the text > straight out of the dialog. Navigating to the file based on the > contents of some pixels on the screen in a dialog is obnoxious when you > have to clear a lock file after a crash. > Why not a button to clear the lock ? Yves -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting
On 04/11/2016 04:13 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> I *might* download and compile it As of revision 14597, working with your Unnamed.rg file: When you find the whole notes that are too big for their measures, you can select them and Adjust -> Notes... -> Tie Notes at Barlines When you find those three notes that are supposed to be in a separate voice, you can select them and Segment -> New Layer From Selection This creates a new segment with the same properties as the current working segment, cuts the notes out of the original, pastes them into the new segment at the same place. They don't seem to move at all, etc., and just change places. All I ended up doing was just stringing together a bunch of off-the-shelf stuff in a new and time-saving way. I folded together bits of code lifted from several places, and got it knocked together in a couple of hours. There some issues with the new function I just added. * If you undo this operation, the notes move back where they came from, but the new segment remains. I don't know how to solve that, so I left the loose end for someone else to attack one of these days. * The rests come out just looking like hell. Rosegarden doesn't really handle this overall situation very well at all. It's a hacky kludge more than a real feature, and it always has been. I've been dealing with it for years, because fixing it properly would be a very large undertaking. One day I want to improve the way Rosegarden deals with rests and such in alternative voice segments, but that is a big project, and I have bite sized chunks of time. * I haven't made up an icon for the thing yet. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] File Locking
On 03/31/2016 08:08 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > I'll leave it up to you. Feel free to tweak the message text too. I finally figured out what this is missing. The file location text needs to be in some kind of selectable area, so you can grab the text straight out of the dialog. Navigating to the file based on the contents of some pixels on the screen in a dialog is obnoxious when you have to clear a lock file after a crash. I may get around to doing that myself here directly. Depends on how my current work goes. I tried my shiny new command, and it just went kablooey. Oops. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
