Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread ram
> On 04/18/2016 09:19 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
>> This is particularly a problem in that I'd like to set them up to run
>> together (leaving blank patterns in Hydrogen while the part in
>> Rosegarden plays), but when I try to set Rosegarden's timing to
>> JACK-determined, it goes all wonky.
>
>I'm not sure that synchronizing Hydrogen and Rosegarden is going to
> work very well.  It might be better to use Hydrogen as a MIDI synth and
> have Rosegarden do the sequencing.  Assuming this is possible.
>
> Ted.
>

Hydrogen works real well as a MIDI synth to be played by RoseGarden, at
least when using Jack/NetJack.  I do this all the time.  For larger
percussion sections I find it easier to use RoseGarden for the sequencing
than Hydrogen's native interface.

RAM




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Silas Mortimer
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:45 AM, D. Michael McIntyre
 wrote:
> I couldn't repeat your gross timing discrepancy between the
> applications, but I couldn't really work out an effective way to use
> both of these sequencers at the same time either.

I kind of figured that the discrepancy in mine probably *should* be
something like one doubled on the other (due to just how I was using
the pattern editor, if I'm correct), like the one being 120 and the
other being 240, but that I'm a little off somehow. I think that
explains how big the discrepancy looks.

I've thought of a way to deal with it once I'm ready to record (or
perform, in a pinch), though. I'll let Rosegarden record its track(s)
in Ardour, then begin every other track (including Hydrogen)
separately after that.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Keyboard command for increasing velocity just a little

2016-04-18 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/18/2016 09:36 AM, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:

> Is there any easy way to change the velocity of notes in small, consistent
> steps (preferably, one unit at a time) from the keyboard?

Yes, but it's impressively evil.  Select a note and Alt+J L V [tab] 
[type new velocity] [enter].  It works, but I wouldn't want to do that 
all day.

If you draw up a feature request for a better way to do this, I'll get 
to it relatively soon.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 04/18/2016 09:19 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
> I have a song that begins with an intro that I wrote in Rosegarden,
> then transitions to a guitar/bass/drum-based song. I'm making the drum
> line in Hydrogen.

I hadn't experimented with any of that in years, and I just took a crash 
refresher course.

The best I can do is check [x] Use JACK Transport on the general options 
configuration page.  That gets Rosegarden and Hydrogen stopping and 
starting in sync, but from there it's up to their respective clocks, and 
the clocks drift.

I couldn't repeat your gross timing discrepancy between the 
applications, but I couldn't really work out an effective way to use 
both of these sequencers at the same time either.

This is why I used to do the sequencing in Rosegarden, and play Hydrogen 
like any other soft synth.  Looking at it with fresh eyes, it still 
seems to be the best I can do.

It used to be possible to import Hydrogen song files directly into 
Rosegarden for this purpose.  It never quite worked reliably, and 
eventually it outright broke.  The code got orphaned years ago.  If 
somebody took a notion, they could probably update it to the latest 
Hydrogen file format and resurrect that bit of functionality.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Silas Mortimer
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Ted Felix  wrote:
> On 04/18/2016 09:19 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
>That's a ratio of 2/3.  Check the time signatures.  Are they the same?

I just looked up time signatures in Hydrogen and I'm going to have to
look at it for a while to understand it, I think. Thanks for the tip.

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[Rosegarden-user] Keyboard command for increasing velocity just a little

2016-04-18 Thread mskala
Is there any easy way to change the velocity of notes in small, consistent
steps (preferably, one unit at a time) from the keyboard?

Shift-Up/Shift-Down seem to do some kind of rounding, maybe to the
nearest multiple of 5 or 10; I haven't been able to determine exactly how
they work, but the velocity seems to go up or down in a small amount on
the first press, more on subsequent presses, and in a way not reversible
by going back in the opposite direction.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Abrolag
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:19:21 -0500
Silas Mortimer  wrote:

> I have a song that begins with an intro that I wrote in Rosegarden,
> then transitions to a guitar/bass/drum-based song. I'm making the drum
> line in Hydrogen.
> 
> I've run into a little trouble in trying to match the rhythm of the
> song to the one in the intro. What I've found: 180 BPM in Hydrogen is
> *not* 180 BPM in Rosegarden. To get a more or less similar beat
> setting, I have Rosegarden set up at 180 BPM, while Hydrogen is down
> to 120 BPM. That is as close as I can come to getting them the same
> speed.
> 
> This is particularly a problem in that I'd like to set them up to run
> together (leaving blank patterns in Hydrogen while the part in
> Rosegarden plays), but when I try to set Rosegarden's timing to
> JACK-determined, it goes all wonky.
> 
> What's going on? Can I change this behavior? Am I doing it wrong? (I
> suspect it's that last one.)

At a guess, maybe they are using different timing sources.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Ted Felix
On 04/18/2016 09:19 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
> This is particularly a problem in that I'd like to set them up to run
> together (leaving blank patterns in Hydrogen while the part in
> Rosegarden plays), but when I try to set Rosegarden's timing to
> JACK-determined, it goes all wonky.

   I'm not sure that synchronizing Hydrogen and Rosegarden is going to 
work very well.  It might be better to use Hydrogen as a MIDI synth and 
have Rosegarden do the sequencing.  Assuming this is possible.

Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Ted Felix
On 04/18/2016 09:19 AM, Silas Mortimer wrote:
> To get a more or less similar beat
> setting, I have Rosegarden set up at 180 BPM, while Hydrogen is down
> to 120 BPM.

   That's a ratio of 2/3.  Check the time signatures.  Are they the same?

Ted.

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[Rosegarden-user] BPM: Rosegarden vs. Hydrogen

2016-04-18 Thread Silas Mortimer
I have a song that begins with an intro that I wrote in Rosegarden,
then transitions to a guitar/bass/drum-based song. I'm making the drum
line in Hydrogen.

I've run into a little trouble in trying to match the rhythm of the
song to the one in the intro. What I've found: 180 BPM in Hydrogen is
*not* 180 BPM in Rosegarden. To get a more or less similar beat
setting, I have Rosegarden set up at 180 BPM, while Hydrogen is down
to 120 BPM. That is as close as I can come to getting them the same
speed.

This is particularly a problem in that I'd like to set them up to run
together (leaving blank patterns in Hydrogen while the part in
Rosegarden plays), but when I try to set Rosegarden's timing to
JACK-determined, it goes all wonky.

What's going on? Can I change this behavior? Am I doing it wrong? (I
suspect it's that last one.)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Humanizing MIDI tracks

2016-04-18 Thread Silas Mortimer
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:59 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
 wrote:
> Not sure if this has been mentioned / is relevant, but in both matrix
> and notation editors you can 'jog' (move in time) by 1/32 increments
> selected notes with ALT + Right / ALT+Left - For certain scenarios this
> (using the keyboard) could speed up adjusting note onsets e.g. creating
> quick 'arpeggio' effects
> But of course YMMV :-)

I will definitely have to try that! Man, there's so much stuff to learn, lol.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Humanizing MIDI tracks

2016-04-18 Thread Abrolag
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:59:58 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton  wrote:

> On 16/04/2016 16:59, Fernando A. Martin wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > 1 - For strumming arpeggiated chords: we can place each note of the
> > chord in a different segment and then set the delay of each segment. I
> > think this is faster than writing the whole chord in a single segment
> > and then changing the delay of each note individually.  
> 
> Not sure if this has been mentioned / is relevant, but in both matrix 
> and notation editors you can 'jog' (move in time) by 1/32 increments 
> selected notes with ALT + Right / ALT+Left - For certain scenarios this 
> (using the keyboard) could speed up adjusting note onsets e.g. creating 
> quick 'arpeggio' effects
> But of course YMMV :-)
> 
> Lorenzo.

You can also select and jog all the notes in a segment without changing the
segment's overall position - very useful for latency correction.

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