Re: [Rosegarden-user] quantization

2017-01-04 Thread Ray Klassen
oh no doubt there. rah rah rosegarden!

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 10:30 AM, D. Michael McIntyre <
rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/01/2017 09:01 PM, Ray Klassen wrote:
>
> > Ha ha. What a relief. I've tried to use grid quantize on midi files i've
> > pulled down off the net and like users the world over I thought it must
> > be something wrong with me.
>
> When I really think about it, the grid quantizer probably works better
> than I appreciate.  It's just that the heuristic quantizer works much
> better, and I always go with the best result.  It's specifically
> designed to get the best notation on the page for a typical human
> performance, and it looks for things humans do when they perform.
>
> That is the one thing separating Rosegarden from every other application
> on the planet, and it's just a back of napkin idea Chris had one day.
> He closed one eye, made some guesses, and took a stab at coming up with
> something.  It has issues that have existed since the first day, and he
> never addressed any of them.  The whole thing is only very slightly more
> refined than the first draft, as I recall.  Even so, it's an absolutely
> brilliant first draft!  That thing is truly the only reason I stuck with
> Rosegarden all these years.  You can find everything else in several
> other packages, but only Rosegarden does this good of a job rendering
> human performances as legible notation; all while preserving the
> original human performance.
>
> It mostly fails on grace notes, slurs, and heavily legato playing.  Plus
> of course when your timing is just way to hell and gone, like mine.  I'm
> a heavy off-the-beat player, and consistently hit everything either
> ahead of or behind the mark.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rulers in notation editor don't appear

2017-01-04 Thread Fernando A. Martin
Michael himself started a bug report on sourceforge.
Here's what we found:
Michael's words:
"As discovered by Fernando A. Martin, Add Control Ruler to add, for
example, a reverb control ruler does not work in the notation or matrix
editors in Qt5 builds running on KDE 5. Did not determine if this also
happens on other desktops. Qt4 builds running on KDE 5 are not affected by
this bug.

Bug #1542 discusses mostly cosmetic issues arising from running on a KDE
that is built with the same Qt version as Rosegarden. This bug involves
functionality that is completely missing and broken under these conditions."


Fernando Martin's words:

"Hi Michael.
I tried to install XFCE on Manjaro using the graphical package manager
Octopi. (Later I found documentation saying that this proccess should be
done using command line.) The result was a very damaged XFCE desktop,
almost unusable. But at least I was able to activate Whisker menu, launch
Rosegarden and open notation editor. Under XFCE, rulers appeared in
notation editor at very first click.
Now we have at least one thing tested: The bug didn't happen in XFCE, a GTK
based DE. So it seems that the bug is related to QT5 builds running on
KDE5."


If you want to check, it's bug report number #1543.


Thank you for testing too.

2017-01-04 12:09 GMT-02:00 Lorenzo Sutton :

> On 04/01/17 00:07, Fernando A. Martin wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I'm using Manjaro Linux, regularly updated, with KDE 5 (Plasma 5) and
> > Roegarden 16.06-2. However in notation editor I'm not being able to open
> > any ruler. If I open a notation segment and then click click on the
> > button "Add Control Ruler" and choose any of the rulers not one of them
> > appears. I can try the same using the menu View / Rulers / Add Control
> > Rulers and choose one of the rulers that nothing appears.
> >
> > I used the first compilation of Rosegarden 16.06 in PCLinuxOS and didn't
> > have the same problem. (I had a lot of issues with audio apps in pclos
> > but this one.)
> >
> > So, is it some issue specific to Manjaro or KDE 5 or is it a new bug of
> > the new compilations of Rosegarden?
> >
> > Can you help me with this situation, please?
>
> I guess this is not of much help for the situation, but here on Fedora
> 24 XFCE with Rosegarden 16.13 (compiled 2a405f6b90 i.e. I guess probably
> the latest or very recent SVN) and Qt 5.6.2 (default distro package),
> the rulers work in both notation and matrix editors.
>
> Maybe try, if you can, compiling the latest SVN version and see what
> happens?
>
> Lorenzo.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rulers in notation editor don't appear

2017-01-04 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 04/01/17 00:07, Fernando A. Martin wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm using Manjaro Linux, regularly updated, with KDE 5 (Plasma 5) and
> Roegarden 16.06-2. However in notation editor I'm not being able to open
> any ruler. If I open a notation segment and then click click on the
> button "Add Control Ruler" and choose any of the rulers not one of them
> appears. I can try the same using the menu View / Rulers / Add Control
> Rulers and choose one of the rulers that nothing appears.
>
> I used the first compilation of Rosegarden 16.06 in PCLinuxOS and didn't
> have the same problem. (I had a lot of issues with audio apps in pclos
> but this one.)
>
> So, is it some issue specific to Manjaro or KDE 5 or is it a new bug of
> the new compilations of Rosegarden?
>
> Can you help me with this situation, please?

I guess this is not of much help for the situation, but here on Fedora 
24 XFCE with Rosegarden 16.13 (compiled 2a405f6b90 i.e. I guess probably 
the latest or very recent SVN) and Qt 5.6.2 (default distro package), 
the rulers work in both notation and matrix editors.

Maybe try, if you can, compiling the latest SVN version and see what 
happens?

Lorenzo.
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