Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread David W. Jones
Hmm. How is polyphonic aftertouch different from regular aftertouch?

Not that I have a keyboard that supports aftertouch, but someday I'll get one.

On March 15, 2020 9:50:31 AM HST, Will Godfrey  
wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:06:27 -0400
>Ted Felix  wrote:
>
>>On 3/12/20 3:25 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>>> People want it so that they can use various effects and instrument
>plugins,
>>> some of which don't have stand-alone versions.  
>>
>>   Thanks, Will.
>>
>>   BTW, have you been working with the latest svn?  Some recent
>changes 
>>might affect you.  Hopefully you have time to run it through the
>wringer.
>>
>>Ted.
>
>I've been somewhat tied up with Yoshi stuff at the moment, but I'll try
>to find
>time to give it a spin.
>
>P.S. Advance warning!
>
>I'm currently working on polyphonic aftertouch, and as far as I can
>tell there
>is no controller support for this in Rosegarden.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:06:27 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 3/12/20 3:25 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> People want it so that they can use various effects and instrument plugins,
>> some of which don't have stand-alone versions.  
>
>   Thanks, Will.
>
>   BTW, have you been working with the latest svn?  Some recent changes 
>might affect you.  Hopefully you have time to run it through the wringer.
>
>Ted.

I've been somewhat tied up with Yoshi stuff at the moment, but I'll try to find
time to give it a spin.

P.S. Advance warning!

I'm currently working on polyphonic aftertouch, and as far as I can tell there
is no controller support for this in Rosegarden.

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[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden sending General MIDI Control Changes [WAS]: Re: LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 15/03/2020 08:26, Will Godfrey wrote:


My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get
a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using
Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into
Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open
the RG project ...


This looks like Rosegarden is defaulting to General Midi and sending a reset,
which Yoshimi of course obeys.


The reset can be disabled in Preferences... > MIDI > Allow reset all 
controllers, but...


I have my Rosegarden default file set up with:
Manage MIDI Devices->MIDI Playback set to a new entry 'Yoshimi'
I then set the track channels to that.



Unfortunately nor the above nor this suggestion by will stop Rosegarden 
from sending General Midi control changes 7, 10, 91, 93 (the ones shown 
on the track panel) which can be as disruptive (especially CC 7, volume, 
and CC10 pan).


I just created a feature request about having an option to completely 
_disable_ this, ideally per file or per midi device (best logical option):


https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/482/

Lorenzo.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread david

On 3/14/20 9:26 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:24:55 -1000
david  wrote:


I'm definitely not in the professional league!

I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I
usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth.

My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get
a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using
Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into
Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open
the RG project ...

This looks like Rosegarden is defaulting to General Midi and sending a reset,
which Yoshimi of course obeys.

I have my Rosegarden default file set up with:
Manage MIDI Devices->MIDI Playback set to a new entry 'Yoshimi'
I then set the track channels to that.


How do you do that?


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread Will Godfrey
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:24:55 -1000
david  wrote:

>I'm definitely not in the professional league!
>
>I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I 
>usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth.
>
>My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get 
>a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using 
>Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into 
>Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open 
>the RG project ...

This looks like Rosegarden is defaulting to General Midi and sending a reset,
which Yoshimi of course obeys.

I have my Rosegarden default file set up with:
Manage MIDI Devices->MIDI Playback set to a new entry 'Yoshimi'
I then set the track channels to that.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-15 Thread david

I'm definitely not in the professional league!

I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I 
usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth.


My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get 
a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using 
Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into 
Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open 
the RG project ...


Since LV2 appears to be the intended replacement for LADSPA, LV2 support 
would be great. I have recorded audio into RG. But the ability to apply 
LV2 plugins to that or MIDI tracks would be nice.


I usually record RG output using jack_capture, then work that over in 
Audacity. So, in a sense, RG is my audio mixer. Ardour is confusing and 
(to me, at least) assumes that I'm a trained audio engineer. Great for 
those who are such, not so great for me.


I would like better score-focused functionality, thank you. RG and 
counterpoint only seem to occasionally get along. But LV2 support seems 
like a good idea, even if just on general principles.


A simple way to render an RG project would be nice, but I think it's 
easy to just fire up jack_capture with the JACK transport option. That 
works for me since I don't need to output RG tracks individually for 
mixing in Audacity or anything else.


To Chris, Ted, Michael and all the wonderful people who make Rosegarden 
- a big Hawaiian MAHALO NUI LOA!


On 3/14/20 3:17 AM, Michael N. Moran wrote:

Greetings,

In the spirit of use-cases, I'll chime-in.

I'm an occasional/casual user of Rosegarden and have been for many years.

I'm a very amateur guitar player and member of a church choir.

My most common use-case is that of trying to learn a particular vocal 
part (e.g. tenor) by listening to it over and over.


In this case, I will receive an octavo from the choir director and 
enter the part using the notation editor, and then play it back using 
a synth (e.g. fluidsynth).


Although the notation entry can be painfully slow, using Rosegarden 
has taught me a great deal about the intricacies of music notation. 
Thanks for that!


After using the notation editor to enter individual parts, I will 
sometimes use Ardour to create audio files which I then write a to 
CD-ROM for individual SATB parts for distribution to other choir members.


All this while using my beloved Linux machines that are the basis for 
my embedded-systems programming livelihood.


Thank you to all of the Rosegarden developers for your contributions.

- mike

On 3/14/20 4:31 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

Hi all,

I think it's really interesting to learn about people's different 
workflows, especially in more professional settings like in this case.



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