Re: [Rosegarden-user] no sound with timidity

[David Tisdell]

Hi Stefan,

I always use ZynAddSubfx as I don't get how to work with Timidity. I 
like the sounds and find it easy to work with.


Dave

On 2/25/11 6:41 AM, Stefan Thomas wrote:

Dear community,
since 2 days I hear nothing, when I use the timidity sythesicer in 
combination with the rosegarden sequencer.

First I start midi with

modprobe snd-seq-device 
modprobe snd-seq-midi 
modprobe snd-seq-oss 
modprobe snd-seq-midi-event 
modprobe snd-seq 
timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os1l -s 44100 

Then I start rosegarden.
When I type aconnect -i iget:

client 0: 'System' [Typ=Kernel]
0 'Timer   '
1 'Announce'
Client 14: 'Midi Through' [Typ=Kernel]
0 'Midi Through Port-0'
Client 24: 'UM-1' [Typ=Kernel]
0 'UM-1 MIDI 1 '
Client 130: 'rosegarden' [Typ=User]
1 'sync out'
2 'external controller'
3 'out 1 - General MIDI Device'

And for aconnect -o I get:
Client 14: 'Midi Through' [Typ=Kernel]
0 'Midi Through Port-0'
Client 24: 'UM-1' [Typ=Kernel]
0 'UM-1 MIDI 1 '
Client 128: 'TiMidity' [Typ=User]
0 'TiMidity port 0 '
1 'TiMidity port 1 '
2 'TiMidity port 2 '
3 'TiMidity port 3 '
Client 129: 'TiMidity' [Typ=User]
0 'TiMidity port 0 '
1 'TiMidity port 1 '
2 'TiMidity port 2 '
3 'TiMidity port 3 '
Client 130: 'rosegarden' [Typ=User]
0 'record in   '
2 'external controller'
But when I type, e.g. aconnect 130:3 129:0 I can't get sound. I also 
tried it with all the other timidity-ports, bu without sucess.
The only way to get sound is to use one of the dssi-plugins (e.g. 
hexter).
I should mention that I use version 10.02 of rosegarden, on a xubuntu 
maverick meerkat machine.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

[David Tisdell]

The attempt at a Mac port was done before the codebase had been moved to
qt. It was installed through fink. I exchanged email with the person who
had tried it and he had run into significant  problems because of KDE
dependencies and he gave up.
Nice to hear about the commercial version of Ardour that runs on Windows.
That gives lots of hope for doing the same with Rosegarden; especially
since Richard is focusing on the MIDI components first.

Dave

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Richard Bown 
richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote:

 Yes, but for the windows port so far audio isn't in scope.  And if it was
 I probably wouldn't do it with JACK I have to say.  Purely because I've got
 bored of fancy APIs for stuff and different models you're forced to adopt
 to use them,  ALSA and JACK did it for me.

 Midi with Rtmidi and ? for audio.  Maybe portaudio.  Cross that bridge as
 and when.  And if.

 Agree that website and docs and tutorials require a refresh. IMHO would be
 nice to have a clean, modern, fresh approach to website and shift the black
 /italics.  But yes, we've been here before..



 On 8 May 2012, at 17:31, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree on the More bang for the buck on a Windows port but JACK already
 runs on OS X as do some JACK aware apps. Percentage  of the user base wise,
 the Mac has historically more people creating content (Don't know if that
 is true today) and it is fully POSIX compliant whereas Windows is not. It
 may be easier to get a full port over to the Mac. Not being a coder, I
 can't say for sure but the Ardour people ran into a significant road block
 on Windows because it wasn't fully POSIX compliant.

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Perhaps as a starting point we could shake the tree for developers on
  Linux audio user lists, wikis, etc. since Linux is the platform of
 origin.
  The core work should begin here and ports created as new features are
 worked
  out. As a member of the Rosegarden community, I would be happy to do
 that
  but I would like some guidance from people like Michael who are working
 on
  the project as to what should be said and who and how to contact to get
 more
  involved.

 I don't have the time to help with C++ development (and I definitely
 can't help with Windows porting), but I can certainly help with
 maintaining the website or Wiki pages and documentation. For instance,
 we need to better showcase some of the music being composed on
 Rosegarden (allow me to toot my horn here, but I recently completed a
 2 year study of Orchestration via Berklee and used Rosegarden for
 every single one of my projects). Maybe some video tutorials would
 help also (I'd definitely be up for making some of those). Pushing
 stuff out to Windows and OS X would help exposure also. Graphics apps
 like GIMP, MyPaint and Krita have gotten a lot of adoption from those
 worlds as alternatives to expensive commercial apps, and there is
 definitely room for something like Rosegarden there, too, especially
 since it offers notation, whereas apps like Reaper and Reason don't,
 and have MIDI  Audio capabilties way beyond what Finale or Sibelius
 provide.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED

[David Tisdell]

Hi Michael,

Thank you for all of your efforts on this project. I know its overwhelming
and lonely at times. You have all my gratitude for keeping it going. I am
looking forward to delving into this release. It comes at a time when I
actually have the time to compile it and not wait for a binary in a
repository.

Dave

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre 
michael.mcint...@rosegardenmusic.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:

  auto setting does and how/if it works, and why the default behaviour is
  auto.
 
  I guess the feature was invented to solve a known sequencing problem ?

 More or less, the feature was invented to solve the problem of what to do
 when
 you've got, say, a bunch of pitch bends in this segment, and a bunch of
 pitch
 bends in that segment, and in the course of editing, you drop both of them
 onto the same track at the same time.

 What you'd get before, both segments are playing through, say, General Midi
 Synth #1, which was linked to channel 1.  The pitch bends would walk all
 over
 each other.

 What you get now, instrument #1 might actually use two or more channels to
 reproduce whatever it has on the table that needs reproducing at a given
 time.
 Each of those segments would wind up playing on a different channel.

 That's kind of the gist of it anyway.  I didn't invent or develop the
 feature,
 and it isn't solving any problem that I considered particularly important
 myself.  I more or less gave Tom the OK to play with his idea, and after he
 went off and poured an ocean of time into working through this immensely
 complicated thing, I couldn't very well tell him we had to leave it stuck
 rotting in a branch.

 I did the best I could to work through using it and make sure everything
 was
 still going to work on the far side of this giant sea change in how
 Rosegarden
 works under the hood.  We went back and forth for a long time, and he kept
 hammering on it until I was finally satisfied we could try releasing it.

 I consider it highly experimental, and am very open to how users in the
 field
 think this ought to be refined.  I do feel like it's fundamentally
 workable at
 this point, and I'm much more interested in thinking about ways to solve
 any
 remaining problems than I am trying to figure out how to revert all of
 this.
 It's not technically impossible to go back, but it's wildly impractical.
  It
 was a pretty big change.  It took him months to get this done, and it had
 impacts in dozens, if not hundreds of places.

 So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of
 global always used fixed instruments override.  I'll pass that along.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

[David Tisdell]

I can try and recruit some Mac developers but I am not a developer myself.
I know how to compile things but not write code.
I could also contribute something in the songwriting area.

Another thought is that Debian used to post a list of consultants (probably
still does) where people could go for learning or support. Perhaps
Rosegarden could add that to the web site. I could easily do trainings in
the New England/New York area. If we had a list of people who were  willing
and able to present on the software, we could expand the user base which
should attract some new developers.

Dave

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote:
  On Thu, 10 May 2012, Richard Bown wrote:
 
 Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could
 contribute to new website/direction/developments.

 Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some
 people who are big current contributors.  This is just to get the ball
 rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here
 and you want it here.

 Songwriters

 Will J Godfrey

 Holger Marzen

 Neil Bryan  User/Supporter


 Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc?

 Current Core Dev

 Michael

 Tom Breton

 Daren Beattie

 Ian Gardner


 A plan for the future Dev direction if any.  Having no plan is also fine.

 Devs or Interested in Ports

 Ian Gardner   Mac Port

 David Tisdell   Mac Port potentially?

 Richard Windows Port.


 Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities?
  Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could
 contribute to new website/direction/developments.
 
  Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out
 some people who are big current contributors.  This is just to get the ball
 rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here
 and you want it here.
 
   Songwriters
   Will J Godfrey
   Holger Marzen
   Neil Bryan  User/Supporter
 
  Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc?
 
  Yep. Songs to be downloaded. And maybe hints and some technical notes
  how the songs were made. Maybe screenshots.

 I can definitely contribute under this area also. Every piece of music
 I have online (and it's quite a bit) was done with Rosegarden and
 Ardour.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Fwd: [Rosegarden-devel] Rosegarden's Future

[David Tisdell]

I have posted requests for Mac developers to 3 Apple lists:
*Coreaudio-api* https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/coreaudio-api A
mailing list for developers using Core Audio and MIDI APIs (C or Java) on
MacOS X
*Unix-porting* 
https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/unix-portingDiscussions
about porting UNIX-based software to Mac OS X
*X11-users* https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users X11 for
Mac OS X discussion list

We'll see if we garner any interest. I'll also see if I can find out who
tried to do the port in the fink project before the change to the qt
codebase and see if he is interested.

Dave

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:04 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.comwrote:

 Claudio,

 I can't guarantee anything on recruiting developers but I can put it out
 there on Apple developer lists. I am not a developer myself but I can
 test some builds. I have all three platforms running at home (Linux, Mac
 and Windows). I have installed the Windows alpha and it is very
 promising (Thanks Richard).

 Dave

 On 5/13/12 6:56 PM, Cláudio Pinheiro wrote:
  I'm interested in a Mac port, and I may help with coding.
  Most of my coding experience involves portable code between Linux,
  Windows, ARM and microcontrollers, and I develop for Mac as a hobby.
  Having said that, I believe the biggest problem I see today in
  Rosegarden is the following mentality:
  I'm a Linux user and I want a tool to help me making music on
  Linux.. So Rosegarden is chosen because it's the most comprehensive
  DAW for the Linux platform, making the choice to use it subordinated
  to the choice of which operating system one wants to use. As the
  Linux-using musicians demographics is a tiny one is somewhat natural
  to expect that Rosegarden's visibility is minimal. And as Linux-using
  musicians programmers with free time and interest are even rarer,
  things pile up on the TODO queue (111 open bugs and 144 open feature
  requests).
  Let's take the opposite example: Mixxx. Multiplatform, Qt-based,
  low-latency DJ mixing program, runs on Linux, Windows and Mac OS X,
  GPL-licensed, free in App Store, has 800+ reviews (4.5 stars) and a
  thriving community.
  What's the main difference between Mixxx and Rosegarden as end-user
  products? When somebody wants to go into DJ'ing he/she can choose
  Mixxx to do the job as a (better) alternative to the commercial ones.
  When somebody wants to write music with a DAW he/she'll try to use a
  program that fulfills its needs. If he/she uses Linux Rosegarden is a
  choice. Had Rosegarden be multiplatform, the mentality would be I
  want a tool to help me making music instead of I'm a Linux user and
  I want a tool to help me making music on Linux.. When we remove the
  platform from the equation we broaden Rosegarden's target audience
  tenfold? Thirtyfold? If we were able to have iOS and Android ports, oh
 my.
  Rosegarden needs broad visibility by potential users, so it can
  generate a critical mass that would attract developers that would
  maintain a sustained growth and (even) better codebase and
  documentation. To achieve it Rosegarden must walk the multiplatform
  path. It must be the top priority now for the future's greater good.
  With this in mind, somebody said that would be able to recruit coders
  to work on a Mac port, please do so and ask them to do it in a
  multiplatform way. Somebody said that could help with the homepage.
  Please step up and do something seksy, atractive. Let's have
  commitment. Let's make Rosegarden reach what no other DAW I'm aware of
  has reached and Mixxx, LibreOffice and others had reached in their
  respective niches. We have lots of success examples all around us, so
  it's time to act upon.
 
  On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Ian Gardner ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk
  mailto:ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
   For what it's worth, I think it's evident that the test framework
   Rosegarden should be using is the Qt one. (As least, if it's any
   good -- which it is; it's pretty nice.)
  
  
   Chris
  
 
  *raises hand* yes I'm potentially interested in looking at stuff
  around testing. I'll need to bone up on the Qt test stuff though,
  never having used it before.
 
  I'm much more interested in the macro top level testing I was
  talking about earlier (scripting out composition building by
  capturing the commands issued) rather than the gnarly micro unit
  testing of writing tests inside every single class and function in
  RG. I exaggerate there of course, but hopefully you catch my drift!
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ian.
 
 
 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Fwd: [Rosegarden-devel] Rosegarden's Future

[David Tisdell]

Perhaps I need to move this information to the developers list. I got this
reply from a guy on one of the Apple developer lists.

I had a brief go at rosegarden with other packages installed using fink
(fink needs the --prefix=/sw) on Mac OS X 10.6.8. However, I found issues
with configure tests for X11, dssi.h and sha1sum. Make finally failed
because i had no alsa installed and there was no quick resolution for that.

(He had all the compile errors in here which I will leave out of this post)

Unfortunately, I do not really have the skills/time to dig deeper into all
these issues, but maybe someone can pick it up. Once rosegarden builds on
macosx, i could contribute and maintain a package discription for fink.

He seems interested in moving forward. with help from others.

Dave


On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:04 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have posted requests for Mac developers to 3 Apple lists:
 *Coreaudio-api* https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/coreaudio-apiA 
 mailing list for developers using Core Audio and MIDI APIs (C or Java) on
 MacOS X
 *Unix-porting* 
 https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/unix-portingDiscussions about 
 porting UNIX-based software to Mac OS X
 *X11-users* https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/x11-users X11 for
 Mac OS X discussion list

 We'll see if we garner any interest. I'll also see if I can find out who
 tried to do the port in the fink project before the change to the qt
 codebase and see if he is interested.

 Dave


 On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:04 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.comwrote:

 Claudio,

 I can't guarantee anything on recruiting developers but I can put it out
 there on Apple developer lists. I am not a developer myself but I can
 test some builds. I have all three platforms running at home (Linux, Mac
 and Windows). I have installed the Windows alpha and it is very
 promising (Thanks Richard).

 Dave

 On 5/13/12 6:56 PM, Cláudio Pinheiro wrote:
  I'm interested in a Mac port, and I may help with coding.
  Most of my coding experience involves portable code between Linux,
  Windows, ARM and microcontrollers, and I develop for Mac as a hobby.
  Having said that, I believe the biggest problem I see today in
  Rosegarden is the following mentality:
  I'm a Linux user and I want a tool to help me making music on
  Linux.. So Rosegarden is chosen because it's the most comprehensive
  DAW for the Linux platform, making the choice to use it subordinated
  to the choice of which operating system one wants to use. As the
  Linux-using musicians demographics is a tiny one is somewhat natural
  to expect that Rosegarden's visibility is minimal. And as Linux-using
  musicians programmers with free time and interest are even rarer,
  things pile up on the TODO queue (111 open bugs and 144 open feature
  requests).
  Let's take the opposite example: Mixxx. Multiplatform, Qt-based,
  low-latency DJ mixing program, runs on Linux, Windows and Mac OS X,
  GPL-licensed, free in App Store, has 800+ reviews (4.5 stars) and a
  thriving community.
  What's the main difference between Mixxx and Rosegarden as end-user
  products? When somebody wants to go into DJ'ing he/she can choose
  Mixxx to do the job as a (better) alternative to the commercial ones.
  When somebody wants to write music with a DAW he/she'll try to use a
  program that fulfills its needs. If he/she uses Linux Rosegarden is a
  choice. Had Rosegarden be multiplatform, the mentality would be I
  want a tool to help me making music instead of I'm a Linux user and
  I want a tool to help me making music on Linux.. When we remove the
  platform from the equation we broaden Rosegarden's target audience
  tenfold? Thirtyfold? If we were able to have iOS and Android ports, oh
 my.
  Rosegarden needs broad visibility by potential users, so it can
  generate a critical mass that would attract developers that would
  maintain a sustained growth and (even) better codebase and
  documentation. To achieve it Rosegarden must walk the multiplatform
  path. It must be the top priority now for the future's greater good.
  With this in mind, somebody said that would be able to recruit coders
  to work on a Mac port, please do so and ask them to do it in a
  multiplatform way. Somebody said that could help with the homepage.
  Please step up and do something seksy, atractive. Let's have
  commitment. Let's make Rosegarden reach what no other DAW I'm aware of
  has reached and Mixxx, LibreOffice and others had reached in their
  respective niches. We have lots of success examples all around us, so
  it's time to act upon.
 
  On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Ian Gardner ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk
  mailto:ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
   For what it's worth, I think it's evident that the test framework
   Rosegarden should be using is the Qt one. (As least, if it's any
   good -- which it is; it's pretty nice.)
  
  
   Chris
  
 
  *raises hand* yes I'm

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Printing staff formatting suggestions

[David Tisdell]

Rosegarden uses Lilypond for printing. You should be able to print directly
from Rosegarden as long as Lilypond is installed. I use Suse as well. I
seem to remember needng to manually install lilypond with a script because
i had trouble finding an rpm for suse but it wasn't a big deal.

Dave


On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:



 LillyPond sounds like something really nice, I say sounds like because I
 haven't been able to print with it yet, or even see a print-preview. I've
 just installed Musix-2.0, I'm next going to set up the printing on it (wifi
 net printer).

 When LillyPond is buggy or missing maybe a simpler other than lillypond
 print would suffice. It's a real pain to have to do captures and then load
 them into gimp for even rudimentary printing.

 The score formatting really should give the composer the option to
 add/remove measures AND more importantly decide which measures will go on
 which line (often to follow lyrics for example). I can also think of a
 situatiion when I may want to later add guitar tabs, so there I would want
 to control spacing as well as the number of lines to the page to leave room
 between them.

 Ditto for the indenting, it seems to be a thing of the past in writing
 anyway so maybe options are needed?






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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Play on RG kills percussion track - SOLVED

[David Tisdell]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the update. I had just noticed that issue and hadn't had time to
delve into it. I was watching the thread with great interest.

Dave

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM, joe j...@fasor.hu wrote:

 Hi!

 Finally I managed to fix the percussion issue - thanks Michael for
 mentioning KMidiMon! Let me share the result of my experience with you,
 it might be useful for some you later on:

 As you're surely all aware, the percussion Bank is set up in RG as
 MSB=1, LSB=0 by default. I have just learned in the Clavinova reference
 guide, that Yamaha is using MSB=127, LSB=0 for some reason... :(

 After changing it in the bank-definition accordingly, the complete
 percussion stuff remained permanenty even during playback.

 Thanks for the help again,

 Bye, Joe



 On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 02:56 -0500, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
  On 01/02/2013 12:53 AM, joe wrote:
 
   Could you please advice me how to monitor or debug the MIDI channels,
   incl. CC07 values being sent?
 
  KMidiMon comes to mind.
 
  I skimmed through your messages.  I don't have anything to add myself.
  I can't set up and test something like this, because I don't have access
  to a keyboard that has a sound module in the same unit as the
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

[David Tisdell]

Thomas had it correct, 3 separate times

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Thomas Sattler tomsatt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Ubuntu Studio 3? Must have been a very old version
 
  Uh  no, that's not what he wrote.  He wrote that he tried Ubuntu
 Studio,
  and he tried it three separate times.  If I read it correctly.

 Yep, you're right, I misread it.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros networking

[David Tisdell]

Cool. Thanks for the info!

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:



 This networking topic just cought my eye. For whatever it may/maynot be
 worth I've been using this D-Link usb wifi transceiver that seems to work
 out of the box with several distros


 http://www.dlink.com/ca/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-131-wireless-n-nano-usb-adapter

 there's a slightly larger newer version available too. The driver I think
 is r8712u. I bought several of the buggers when they came out so as to have
 a standardised interface for all my destktops/laptops and sofar I'm VERY
 happy with it.

 - UbuntuStudio
 - Debian
 - OpenSuse
 - not sure about some of the others that I use much less frequently
 (hardly ever)

 It gives me the added ability to instantly and physically disconnect by
 just pulling it or to use it on any computer. It is usually auto detected
 and when I have any problem I just pull  reinsert to reset everything.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Can't load Hydrogen file. It appears to be corrupt

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Hi Andrew,

I think that feature has been broken for a long time. I posted about that
quite a while ago and was told by Michael that the person who created that
feature has been gone from Rosegarden for a long time.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Andrew nos...@flight.us wrote:

 Hi, all!

 When I try to import a Hydrogen song (an *.h2song file) I get this error:


  Can't load Hydrogen file.  It appears to be corrupted.

 I've tried a bunch of hydrogen files, same error.

 Just compiled version 13.02, my older version is 12.04

 Same error in both versions.

 What gives?  False hopes for this feature?

 As a side note: I tried to work around this by exporting from Hydrogen to
 MIDI, then importing the midi into RG. Well, that *appears* to work, but
 the result is the notes (percussion instruments) seem to be mismatched
 and scrambled - such that the percussion mappings can't be corrected with a
 simple, single transpose (for everything).  Correct me if i'm wrong.
  Quite possible I'm making some type of transposing mistake.

 Anyhow, i'm hoping to either defeat the bug (and get the *.h2song file
 import) or find a workaround.

 thanks.
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[Rosegarden-user] deleted file recovery

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Hi All,

Before Thorn came out, Rosegarden used to create a backup file. I have had
students accidentally delete their segment and then unwittingly save those
changes thus creating an empty file. That backup file often saved students
accidental changes.

In versions since Thorn, is there a backup file still created? If so, where
is it kept? I have 2 student composers who accidentally deleted the melody
from their composition. It would be great if I can recover somehow.

Thanks.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] deleted file recovery

[David Tisdell]

Thank you. That is a big help


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 On 04/09/2013 02:17 PM, David Tisdell wrote:

  In versions since Thorn, is there a backup file still created?

 Autosave files go in

~/.local/share/rosegarden/autosave

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Audio Distros

[David Tisdell]

Thanks Brian. That is very helpful. I am reevaluating again. I actually
didn't change much after I originally posted. This is the time if I am
going to do it this year.

Dave


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Brian Clem mrbrianc...@gmail.com wrote:

 David Tisdell david.tisdell@... writes:

 
  Hi all,I use Rosegarden to teach composition to middle school students.
 For a long time, I used Studio64 but it wasn't being updated and I was
 running into driver issues on new hardware installations. In August, I
 installed XUbuntu and added all of the music programs I use but have been
 really unhappy with Ubuntu. There have been stability issues and frequent
 loss of communication to software synthesizers. Before I do my next round
 of
 compositions, I want to ditch Ubuntu.Does anyone have a recommendation for
 an audio distro? Remember, I am doing this with middle school student so
 stability and consistency are paramount. Personally, I have been a suse
 person for several years but there are a couple of quirks to doing digital
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 I use two different computers for my elementary school classes.  Both my
 laptop and amdx6 dual boot.  Both run AVL 6.0.1b.  Desktop also runs 12.04
 LTS because I needed smartboard drivers and at the time, 12.04LTS was the
 way to go.  Since some time, I find AVL 6 works as well.  AVL is debian.
 Its rock solid and very stable.  The laptop also runs the most bleeding
 edge
 ubuntu 13.10 daily.

 My reason to have AVL 6 on both computers is because when students are in
 my
 room, its just got to work.  And JACK runs much better on AVL.  Could be
 debain and/or stable branch.  Also the people behind AVL are very cool and
 support is great.  At least the best I have experienced in the computer
 world.

 ** Try AVL 6.
 http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html
 http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=avlinux

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Ugly notation formatting

[David Tisdell]

You could focus on how the piece sounds and when you have it the way you
want, make a duplicate and clean it up from a notation point of view. For
notation, I would just use a fermata where the matrix editor is messing
with the notation.
I love the fact that RG is a musical swiss army knife but that does, as
Lorenzo pointed out, introduce trade offs. If you want the best out of the
sequencer and the notation editor, I would make 2 files.

Dave

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Silas Mortimer 
wrote:

> Hi. I'm not only new to Rosegarden, I'm new to computer composing
> beyond using guitarix/Hydrogen/Ardour for recording. I've been working
> on a piece and learning bit by bit as I go along. Of course, this
> means that I'm making a lot of mistakes as I go.
>
> The trouble winds up in the notation editor. By the time I'm done
> fixing whatever needs to be fixed in what I previously did, the
> notation is left looking terrible, lol. Not *really* the software's
> fault, but I would think that there might be a way to, oh, I don't
> know, hit a button or menu item that would reformat the entire thing
> to be a little more elegant and/or make sense?
>
> What I'm currently writing is in 2/4 time, in the D melodic minor
> scale. One example is at one point I wanted to make a chord ring out
> longer than I'd originally put it and had already added notes after
> it. I searched for what I should do there, and from what I gather, I
> could only do that in the matrix editor. Is that the case? Anyway, I
> did it there, and the notation not only looks bad, it no longer makes
> sense. I think there might be a whole note listed in one bar (again,
> it's in 2/4), and there's something that should be tied, plays like
> it's tied, but it's not shown that way.
>
> Is there some way I can keep the music as it is, but discard and
> regenerate the notation? I apologize for my ignorance here.
>
> I do love being able to do what I'm doing, though. This is a great
> application.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Cross-platform Rosegarden

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I think being multi-platform would be wonderful. I tried to get an OS X
port going but I am not a coder and was dependent upon other people to do
the heavy lifting. I'll happily test. In my public school teaching, I try
to exclusively use open source apps. It helps eliminate the class divide. I
use Rosegarden in class as well as MuseScore, Audacity, and Ardour. If
Rosegarden were multi-platform, I might not need the others. Thank you.

dave

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> On 07/24/2016 04:37 PM, J.P. Morris wrote:
>
> > That's the single most mission-critical feature of Rosegarden for me
> > and last time I looked at the code the gubbins for slaving to an external
> > MTC source were spread all across the Alsa-specific code.
>
> You raise an issue I never would have considered.  I don't see an
> obvious answer to this one, and some real thought will be required.
>
> In the meantime, the ALSA driver isn't going anywhere.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden - Yoshimi issue

[David Tisdell]

Thanks! I'll try that.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Ted Felix <t...@tedfelix.com> wrote:

> On 04/18/2017 08:51 AM, David Tisdell wrote:
> > I am running Rosegarden 15.12 and Yoshimi 1.3.8.2
> > I can go into Yoshimi and set the sounds I want to use but when I hit
> play
> > in Rosegarden, it is as if it gets a Midi signal to change sounds and
> > starts using sounds I did not select.
>
>This sounds familiar.  About a year ago, Lorenzo Sutton brought up
> this issue here on the user list.  The conclusion was that he needed to
> use a yoshimi.rgd file and let rosegarden do the configuring.
>
>You can read the discussion here:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/mailman/rosegarden-
> user/thread/576B4143.1070207%40tedfelix.com/#msg35177175
>
>Lorenzo's post starts a few screens down.  Search the page for
> Lorenzo to get there quickly.
>
>You should be able to download the latest yoshimi.rgd file directly
> here:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/code/HEAD/tree/
> trunk/rosegarden/data/library/yoshimi.rgd?format=raw
>
> Ted.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden - Yoshimi issue

[David Tisdell]

I can compile  but I am using it in a music classroom and have quite a few
stations I would have to do that for. There is a time issue involved. I
might recompile on my own workstation.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Abrolag <abro...@users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:51:54 -0400
> David Tisdell <david.tisd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I recently switched over to Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS and added UbuntuStudio.
> > I am running Rosegarden 15.12 and Yoshimi 1.3.8.2
> > I have used Rosegarden and ZynAddsubfx/Yoshimi for years and have never
> run
> > into this before.
> > I can go into Yoshimi and set the sounds I want to use but when I hit
> play
> > in Rosegarden, it is as if it gets a Midi signal to change sounds and
> > starts using sounds I did not select. For the moment, what I have been
> > doing is setting up Yoshimi the way I want and then saving the state. I
> put
> > some empty space at the beginning of Rosegarden and after hitting play, I
> > load the saved state from Yoshimi.
> > I have experimented with the MIDI setting in Yoshimi, trying to tell it
> to
> > ignore change bank messages but to no avail. I have never run into this
> > before and am not sure if Rosegarden is sending a signal that I don't
> want
> > or if it is entirely a yoshimi problem.
> > Any thoughts on how to prevent this from happening?  Loading the saved
> > state after hitting play works but is cumbersome.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Are you able to compile the software yourself?
> If so both rosegarden and Yoshimi have been *much* changed and improved
> over
> the last 18 months or so.
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[Rosegarden-user] Experience With Linux and Rosegarden on a chromebook?

[David Tisdell]

Hi All,

I have been using Rosegarden for many years to teach composition to middle
school students.
My IT department is pushing me to use something in the cloud which I really
don't want to do. Our students have chromebooks and I have come across
documentation on how to install Ubuntu alongside ChromeOS. Has anyone on
this list done this and do audio applications run acceptably?
This may be my way around the demands of the IT department.

Right now I have Linux laptops in my classroom which students use to
compose and they don't want to supply them any more
If Rosegarden and companion applications + Audacity run acceptably, I might
be able to get them to allow linux on a chrome book so I can have the apps
that I have used for years rather than having to find something in the
cloud that has a lot less flexibility.

Dave
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Controlling play/stop/rewind from external DAW (Ardour)

[David Tisdell]

Hi Stefano,

In the rosegarden general preferences, make sure "USe JACK Transport" is
checked. In Ardour, there should be a button underneath the metronome
button that says "int." If you click on that it should switch to using the
jack transport. Any play control whether you use it in Rosegarden, Ardour,
or QJackctl, will start everything connected to JACK Transport.
Hope this helps.

Dave

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM stefano franchi 
wrote:

> I'm new to Rosegarden and I wonder how to control transport operations
> from an external DAW, in my case Ardour 6.
> The manual says it's possible, but I'm failing to find the correct
> connections, it seems. Can anyone help?
>
> What I tried:
> 1. Create an Ardour test session with a midi track
> 2. In Rosegarden's Midi Sync preferences, selected "accept Start, Stop,
> and Continue", and set to "slave" as MIDI MMC and MIDI TCM
> 2. in Jack2 (actually, Cadence's Catia GUI for jack2) connect the midi
> track input port to Rosegarden's "out 1 - General MIDI Device" port
> 3.in Jack2, connected Ardour's midi track out to Rosegarden's "External
> Controller" in port
> 4. Armed Ardour and started recording.
>
> I was expecting Rosegarden to start playing as soon as Ardour started
> recording. Did not happen.
> The Midi in connection in Ardour works---if I start Rosegarden manually, I
> can both hear and record its output in Ardour. But I can't control it from
> Ardour.
>
> What am I missing?
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[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?

[David Tisdell]

Hi All,

Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest
Raspberry PI? I had read that earlier versions of the PI were not fast
enough for audio/multimedia creation but that the PI 4 would be a giant
leap forward in this area. Thinking about giving it a whirl but don't want
to spend the money if it will simply be an exercise in
frustration/futility. Thanks.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] How long have you been using Rosegarden?

[David Tisdell]

I think it has been about the same for me. Maybe a little longer.

Dave

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:13 AM Patrick May 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How long have you all been using Rosegarden?
>
> Myself, I've been using Rosegarden 15 years. Oh god yeahh. I've got 1594
> project files in my ~/rosegarden directory that I created in that time.
>
> I use Rosegarden only as a MIDI sequencer for controlling synths. I've
> never used the audio features.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?

[David Tisdell]

I am leaning toward giving it a shot after the first of the year,
especially after Will Godfrey's link to the "yoshimi pi"
If I do, I'll post about success of lack thereof. I am thinking that I will
most likely have to compile RG. There probably isn't a binary in the PI
repository. Not that it's hard, just haven't done it in quite a while.

Dave

Dave

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Ted Felix  wrote:

> On 12/8/20 7:43 PM, David Tisdell wrote:
> > Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest
> > Raspberry PI?
>
>I have not.  However, it would be an interesting test case.
>
>On my laptop (an ancient 1st gen i3) I see about 1.7% CPU being used
> by RG if I launch JACK after RG is up.  If I launch RG after JACK is up,
> I see about 15% CPU for RG plus about 4.3% CPU for JACK.  So, if you
> don't use the audio subsystem (audio tracks) in RG, you can likely
> reduce the CPU usage considerably.  That might make it a lot easier to
> use RG on a Pi.
>
>Let us know how it goes if you decide to try this route.  We might
> need to add a "disable audio" to the preferences to allow for easier
> performance tuning.  We also might need to do some further performance
> tuning in the code.  I'm always up for that.
>
> Ted.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?

[David Tisdell]

That is cool

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:23 AM Will Godfrey 
wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:43:55 -0500
> David Tisdell  wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest
> >Raspberry PI? I had read that earlier versions of the PI were not fast
> >enough for audio/multimedia creation but that the PI 4 would be a giant
> >leap forward in this area. Thinking about giving it a whirl but don't want
> >to spend the money if it will simply be an exercise in
> >frustration/futility. Thanks.
> >
> >Dave
>
> Not tried Rosegarden on it yet, but it does run a full-fat Yoshimi quite
> happily. To the extent I've been able to attract some non-Linux users with
> this:
>
> http://www.musically.me.uk/YoshimiPi/index.html
>
> --
> Will J Godfrey
> http://www.musically.me.uk
> Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
> Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden raspberry pi?

[David Tisdell]

Thanks for the update on the Pi. I have read that the Pi 4 is a significant
improvement over the Pi3. Come across a few people running them headless as
a qsynth sound module
Will Godfrey’s implementation with Yoshimi looks interesting. I wish
Yoshimi’s piano sounds weren’t so awful. I like Yoshimi except for the
piano but I use piano a lot in my work and so it can’t be my only sound tool

Dave

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:28 PM steve conrad 
wrote:

> Btw, when I last tried RG on a Pi, there was a precompiled version in the
> Raspbian repo. Good thing. Pis aren't real good at compiling stuff is a
> hurry.
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:26 AM steve conrad 
> wrote:
>
>> I have used Rosegarden on a Pi3. It worked about as much as any desktop
>> app can be said to work on one of those things. Didn't make it crash more
>> than anything else. As near as I can make out, once a Pi runs out of RAM it
>> just reboots and that happens pretty often using Raspbian.
>>
>> PIs are basically pretty useless though. The price point is a bit of a
>> hoax. By the time you gear them up with a case, a screen and such they cost
>> as much as a low end laptop while offering a fraction of the performance
>> and stability.
>>
>> If you want something small and quiet for rosegarden etc, try looking
>> into a micro PC like a Gigabyte brix. They've got a real computer inside.
>>
>> I've had a Pi for a couple years now and while I have found it
>> technically capable of performing a variety of tasks, I have yet to find
>> any application for which it is the right tool. So I don't use it for
>> anything at all. A solution in search of a problem.
>>
>> And of course they're offensively black boxed as you would expect from
>> the bastard child of a bunch of Broadcom engineers. Those things are not
>> open source friendly in any way.
>>
>> Imho, Pis are a waste of time and money but Rosegarden doesn't present
>> any special problems as far as they are concerned.
>>
>> I've heard some people like them more than I do.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:28 PM David Tisdell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am leaning toward giving it a shot after the first of the year,
>>> especially after Will Godfrey's link to the "yoshimi pi"
>>> If I do, I'll post about success of lack thereof. I am thinking that I
>>> will most likely have to compile RG. There probably isn't a binary in the
>>> PI repository. Not that it's hard, just haven't done it in quite a while.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Ted Felix  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/8/20 7:43 PM, David Tisdell wrote:
>>>> > Has anyone tried Rosegarden and other linux audio apps on the newest
>>>> > Raspberry PI?
>>>>
>>>>I have not.  However, it would be an interesting test case.
>>>>
>>>>On my laptop (an ancient 1st gen i3) I see about 1.7% CPU being used
>>>> by RG if I launch JACK after RG is up.  If I launch RG after JACK is
>>>> up,
>>>> I see about 15% CPU for RG plus about 4.3% CPU for JACK.  So, if you
>>>> don't use the audio subsystem (audio tracks) in RG, you can likely
>>>> reduce the CPU usage considerably.  That might make it a lot easier to
>>>> use RG on a Pi.
>>>>
>>>>Let us know how it goes if you decide to try this route.  We might
>>>> need to add a "disable audio" to the preferences to allow for easier
>>>> performance tuning.  We also might need to do some further performance
>>>> tuning in the code.  I'm always up for that.
>>>>
>>>> Ted.
>>>>
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