Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread Andy
david wrote:
 On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote:
 The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
 state categorically that there is no such script included with the
 *buntu distros out there.
 
 I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such 
 script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't 
 including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too?
 

You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu
/ Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next
package update.

The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in
the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal
users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script.

I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos
/ SL Rosegarden package.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-15 Thread Andy
Gary G. wrote:

 It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
 developing such a script.
 
 A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
 problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
 simply vanished or lost interest.

Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.

Here are some instructions on how to use it:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102

If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
then the script should still work fine.

Let us know how you get on with it.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-12 Thread Andy
Gary G. wrote:

 So the more I look at this problem, the easier path seems to be simply
 downloading a tutorial on python, spend a week learning the language,
 and writing the utility myself.
 
 Figure with having to learn the API and system calls and researching
 the file formats (I know sweet-f***-all about XML documents) I should
 have something up and running within a week or two and fully debugged
 and free to release under GNU license within a month at the outside.
 
 At least it'll be useful to everyone else who struggles along sequencing
 $2000 synths with basic General MIDI patches.
 
 For a seasoned python or perl script writer this would be an evening's
 work at most, but like I said, I haven't coded in 25 years, so if no one
 else is willing to do it I guess I'll start printing up the necessary
 research material and kludge something together when I have the time.
 
 Even with all that, it will STILL be easier than reformatting the crap
 in a spreadsheet and make RGD creation in the future a pleasure rather
 than having one's wisdom teeth extracted anally like it is today. :D
 
 Wish me luck and if anyone with more skilz than I gotz wants to take
 this off my hands by all means feel free.  I won't be insulted. :D
 
 btw, here's the tech spec for the Cakewalk INS Format:
 
 http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm

Sounds like a good idea, I would do it in Perl if I was doing it, since I have
decent Perl knowledge and no Python knowledge and Perl is the perfect language
for text file manipulation, but right now I neither have the time nor the need
for a script like this (currently I don't even have the time to use Rosegarden
much. :-( ).

I think it would take more than an evening though, even to a seasoned script
writer.

Good luck!


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Andy

Richard Bown wrote:
 Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could 
 contribute to new website/direction/developments.
 
 Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some 
 people who are big current contributors.  This is just to get the ball 
 rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and 
 you want it here.
 
 Songwriters  
 Will J Godfrey
 Holger Marzen
 Neil Bryan  User/Supporter
 
 Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc?
 
 Current Core Dev
 Michael 
 Tom Breton   
 Daren Beattie
 Ian Gardner  
 
 A plan for the future Dev direction if any.  Having no plan is also fine.
 
 Devs or Interested in Ports 
 Ian Gardner   Mac Port
 David Tisdell   Mac Port potentially?
 Richard Windows Port.
 
 Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities?
 
 Website
 Brett McCoy
 Michael 
 Chris?
 Richard  
 
 Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward.
 
 Thoughts?

Yes, I have some thoughts! To briefly introduce myself so I don't look like an
intruder, I have been a on-off Rosegarden User for many years (and still am
when I find time for making music) and my tiny contributions so far for RG
have been two instrument definition files (Korg 05R/W and Yamaha RM50), a RG
1.7.3 Package for Mandriva 3 years ago and now a RG package for RHEL 6 and
clones. I'm not a programmer so can't help on that side (I'm a sysadmin
professionally).

To get back on subject, I think RG needs to be more visible in the Linux world
to attract new users and even more importantly make sure that packagers of all
major Linux distros are aware of new releases, so that the latest version
swiftly ends up in the repos of current distros.

Without this crucial task most users will never be able to use RG as very few
users are experienced enough to build from source themselves!

Like I mentioned in another post I have taken the liberty to post the 12.04
release announcement to Lxer.com and linuxtoday.com. IMHO this should be
standard practice at every new release as it keeps RG in the news (at least
occasionally) and it might alert packagers that there is a new version out.

But since it's far from certain that all or even most packagers read these
Linux newssites, it would maybe be useful to set up a rosegarden-announce
mailing list just for new release announcements and then contact packagers of
linux distros that have packaged up previous versions of RG encouraging them
to subscribe to that list so that they stay informed about new releases.

Regards,
Andy


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