Re: [Rosegarden-user] Shorten default MIDI event duration for drum notes inserted from the piano roll.

2020-06-13 Thread Richard Bown
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 02:58, Ted Felix  wrote:

>
> > Have you ever considered moving the development of the rosegarden
> > project to GitLab/GitHub?
>
>Feel free to fork from here:
>
> https://github.com/tedfelix/rosegarden


Interesting!  I'm still struggling along occasionally with the Windows
port, which is still various versions behind but is at least finally
building under github actions:

https://github.com/bownie/RosegardenW

The installer build is not fully working yet but the next time I get some
energy I was going to try to fix that and then upversion the tree to the
latest release - the idea being then that it essentially looks after itself
:)  Ideally would like this to be a semi-automated pull from sourceforge
occasionally but yes that would require more effort..

Richard
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden still to 'aggressive' in sending Bank and Program changes?

2020-05-18 Thread Richard Bown
On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 14:37, Ted Felix  wrote:

> On 5/17/20 5:43 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> > Rosegarden sends a Bank selection (CC 0 + CC 32) and Program change
> > every single time playback starts from the beginning (i.e. measure 1,
> > and this includes if you are looping with a measure which includes
> > measure 1).
>
>I was waiting for someone to complain about this.  Now that CCs are
> sorted, this needs to be looked at next.
>
>Please open a feature request and copy your message into it.
>
>Should be able to get this done for 20.12.
>

I agree that this feature makes no sense as a default and that a change is
long overdue! I also like the suggestion of making it a (very visible)
option.  If I'm not stating the obvious it might be useful to know why this
'feature' came about in the first place.  I was using a lot of VST
instruments and soft synths for testing at the time and of course these
wouldn't save their own state so this default was a workaround for that
behaviour and probably always should have been an option... I think the
role of the DAW has also changed a bit in the intervening years, rather
than aiming always to use it as a single point of truth, a lot of connected
equipment now has opinions and connectivity, plain and simple, is more
important than anything else.  This also makes me wonder again about JACK
midi of course but that's another story :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?

2020-03-16 Thread Richard Bown
This is a thread of golden feedback! Wonderful to see RG alive and kicking
after all this time.

I always thought JACK MIDI was the sensible way to go seeing as Ardour
could then in theory effortlessly synchronise. But obviously it wasn't a
simple integration - I would've looked at it more closely if it were
simple!  The last couple of Windows ports targeted RtMidi because it was
very simple and lightweight but not sure how many people or indeed if
anyone used it - perhaps JACK could be revisited.  My intention (six months
ago?) was to get a regular, semi-automated, Windows build working without
any audio/MIDI support at all .. but even that got sidelined. Maybe now
life throws an opportunity...

Stay safe,
Richard

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 08:27 Will Godfrey, 
wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:24:55 -1000
> david  wrote:
>
> >I'm definitely not in the professional league!
> >
> >I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I
> >usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth.
> >
> >My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get
> >a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using
> >Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into
> >Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open
> >the RG project ...
>
> This looks like Rosegarden is defaulting to General Midi and sending a
> reset,
> which Yoshimi of course obeys.
>
> I have my Rosegarden default file set up with:
> Manage MIDI Devices->MIDI Playback set to a new entry 'Yoshimi'
> I then set the track channels to that.
>
> --
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[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden for Windows alpha 1906

2019-11-27 Thread Richard Bown
Hi all,

I checked the clock and it's been over five years since the last Rosegarden
for Windows build so it was probably about time...  I've built it _very_
quickly and roughly based on very recent tarball and the installer is here:

https://xyglo.com/rg/rosegarden-win32-alpha-1906.exe

I've not really tested it beyond starting it up on the build machine and
trying it on a win64 machine (which installed but didn't start of course)
so not sure if it really installs cleanly and will work smoothly on another
win32 Windows 10 machine yet.  In theory you should get somewhere...
Functionality is more limited than the previous RG for Windows build at
this point in time i.e. I think even the RtMidi integration isn't working
yet.  If some people could kindly provide some feedback on what works and
what doesn't then perhaps in the coming days I'll find some time to improve
it and then we can post it up on sourceforge if it's relatively stable.

I may also attempt to get a win64 build but I'm not holding out much hope
for that and that of course also depends heavily on the state of the
current codebase which I'm in no position to comment on.

Also feel free to reach out to me directly with any feedback - the most
natural home for this might be on rg-devel but I thought I would post this
here first.

Cheers,
Richard
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] RG incorrectly plays all notes of allinstruments in sequence one after the other instead of simultaneously as itshould be played.

2014-07-26 Thread Richard Bown
Could well be. Windows MIDI is still very alpha.

R

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Sent: ‎26/‎07/‎2014 13:35
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Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] RG incorrectly plays all notes of allinstruments 
in sequence one after the other instead of simultaneously as itshould be played.

On 07/26/2014 03:58 AM, Holger Marzen wrote:

 Can you send me the rg-file? My first approach would check if my
 Rosegarden plays it correctly.

That is such strange behavior, the first thing I wonder is whether he's 
using the Windows port.  I've never seen anything like that on Linux. 
The usual Linux timing/sequencer problems involve playing one note and 
nothing happening, or the timing being really bad.  Serializing all the 
events?  Bizarrre.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] New version?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Bown
On 29 Nov 2012, at 16:49, dusthillresid...@netscape.net wrote:

 Hi guys, I was wondering if you had any plans for releasing a new 
 version soon. The latest stable version has broken midi export, and 
 midi export is perhaps the most important feature to me.
 
 Sorry to bother you.

That's alright.  We were asleep anyway.

There has been some activity and talk of a release but I've no idea how far 
that had got in reality.   I'd like to have a catch up and fix-a-couple of bugs 
and maybe draft-in-some-audio release soonish for Rosegarden for Windows but I 
fear now that won't happen this year.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Guitar notation vs. sound

2012-09-24 Thread Richard Bown
On 24 Sep 2012, at 12:56, Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl wrote:

 Of course, I've seen only a limited number of guitarists...

I think it's safe to say N guitarists = at least N+1 opinions.  I have some too 
of course but I'm keeping schtum.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Guitar notation vs. sound

2012-09-24 Thread Richard Bown
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Abrolag abro...@users.sourceforge.netwrote:

 On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:32:13 -1000
 david gn...@hawaii.rr.com wrote:

 Guitarists are like cats.


Does this mean that managing software developers is like herding guitarists?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] JACK-MIDI?

2012-09-16 Thread Richard Bown
Interestingly, RtMidi has a JACK MIDI wrapper in the latest version of its
API.  I've not looked at it yet but for audio integration in Rosegarden for
Windows it might make sense.

R


On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote:

 Hi all,

 is Rosegarden able to use JACK-MIDI instead of ALSA-MIDI? Maybe in the
 future? Some people say that JACK-MIDI has some advantages regarding
 latency/jitter.

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[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden for Windows 12.04.99 Alpha 3, codename WinFreedom RELEASED

2012-09-16 Thread Richard Bown
I'm pleased to finally announce the availability of the latest Alpha
release of Rosegarden for Windows.

This is a working release of Rosegarden for Windows - it's still called an
Alpha release because it may well be buggy and audio file support or audio
sequencing is still not supported in any way.  The code base has been
merged with the latest Rosegarden trunk changes (Freedom) as per 7th July
2012 but also:

  - MIDI Playback devices are now assignable (create new Midi Device and
assign tracks)
  - Most common MIDI playback events are now supported (no System
Exclusives)
  - MIDI Record now works for most events (no System Exclusives)
  - RtMidi updated to latest version (July 2012)
  - Merges from latest trunk release (please see 12.04.00 Freedom release
notes)

Rosegarden for Windows is a packaged installation for 32-bit Windows which
will work on 32-bit or 64-bit Windows platforms and has been tested on
Windows XP and Windows 7.  Rosegarden for Windows packages Lilypond
printing and print-previewing out of the box.

You can download Rosegarden for Windows from here (*):

  https://bitbucket.org/bownie/rosegarden-for-windows/downloads

Rosegarden for Windows Alpha 2 has had over 5000 downloads in the last nine
or so months but so far feedback has been limited - hopefully that can
change a bit with this latest, more functional release.  It would be great
to hear any feedback - good, bad or indifferent - just to work out if I
should spend any more time adding features no matter how slowly!

Please give it a try and provide me or the rosegarden-devel mailing list
with any feedback.  Thanks goes of course to all the core developers on the
Rosegarden team who are pumping out the actual features and improvements
and hopefully this version can continue to do them some justice.

Regards,
Richard Bown (@xyglo)
September 2012

(* - Sourceforge file upload didn't want to work for some reason but
perhaps the files/links could also be updated there)


Notes:

The main Rosegarden website is still at:

  http://www.rosegardenmusic.com

There is also a page here with latest Rosegarden for Windows specific
information:

  http://www.xyglo.com/rosegarden-for-windows/

Rosegarden for Windows code is now in a mercurial repository at BitBucket:

  https://bitbucket.org/bownie/rosegarden-for-windows

The old branch in SourceForge is now trailing and can be deleted if
required:


http://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rosegarden/branches/win32-mingw-rtmidi/
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...

2012-08-29 Thread Richard Bown
On 29 Aug 2012, at 23:14, Chris Cannam can...@all-day-breakfast.com wrote:

 So he hasn't had the opportunity either to decide to let it go, or to
 relish the good things about it.

It's a fucking operating system.  Get over it.

R

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[Rosegarden-user] Raspberry Pi

2012-07-01 Thread Richard Bown
I've just received my raspberry Pi.  Anyone had any luck getting RG to run on 
it yet and any advice on distros?  I have a day or two to do some research as I 
find I've not got a micro USB connector anywhere to my slight surprise.

Cheers,
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Bown
Ok well, I'm going to carry on occasionally merging from trunk as I wish and 
will pop out another Windows build at some point soon.  For the moment, and to 
make it easier for me to manage, I've created a page:

http://www.xyglo.com/rosegarden-for-windows/

I'll post announcements here and keep monitoring the usual lists but this is a 
bit easier for me.

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[Rosegarden-user] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-11 Thread Richard Bown




Begin forwarded message:

 From: r...@hydrophones.com
 Date: 11 May 2012 11:23:55 CEST
 To: Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future
 
 Hi guys,
 
 While I am certainly not a 'big' Rosegarden contributor, I do use
 Rosegarden for virtually all of my musical creations.  These can be found
 at:
 
 www.hydrophones.com/MAI-Audio/MAI-Dark-Soundtracks.html
 
 www.hydrophones.com/.../More-MAI-Audio-Music_downloads.html
 
 and many other places.
 
 Rosegarden performs well and its few (perhaps persistent) bugs are
 (mostly) easily worked around.  As to future, perhaps far future,
 directions, Rosegarden developers should play with the Impro-Visor project
 a bit which will lead to some extended user interface ideas.  Impro-Visor
 is open source, but written in Java.  It can be found at:
 
 https://www.cs.hmc.edu/~keller/jazz/improvisor/
 
 Lately, I tend to start projects in Impro-Visor, work with a variety of
 tools, and finish them in Rosegarden.
 
 I note that Rosegarden is mentioned in almost every Ph.D. dissertation and
 Masters thesis I have read for the past several years.  Very recently, I
 note, it has received very positive coverage in Linux Format (Issue
 LXF156, April 2012) although the article does contain some (serious)
 inaccuracies with respect to Rosegarden file formats.  Rosegarden is
 arguably one of Linux's 'killer apps'.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rich Marschall
 r...@hydrophones.com
 
 
 
 
 
 Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could
 contribute to new website/direction/developments.
 
 Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some
 people who are big current contributors.  This is just to get the ball
 rolling so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here
 and you want it here.
 
 Songwriters
 Will J Godfrey
 Holger Marzen
 Neil Bryan  User/Supporter
 
 Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc?
 
 Current Core Dev
 Michael
 Tom Breton
 Daren Beattie
 Ian Gardner
 
 A plan for the future Dev direction if any.  Having no plan is also fine.
 
 Devs or Interested in Ports
 Ian Gardner   Mac Port
 David Tisdell   Mac Port potentially?
 Richard Windows Port.
 
 Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities?
 
 Website
 Brett McCoy
 Michael
 Chris?
 Richard
 
 Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward.
 
 Thoughts?
 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Bown
 liberal arts major.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1VhsNOwPU

 No great loss.  Software is a pain in the ass.

It is.  And any professional software of this size and complexity would be 
equally gnarly.  It's just the way it is and we all learn to accept this 
eventually because for some of us it enables us to earn money.  I no longer 
complain how shit software is because I know it's keeping me employed.

On that score you could very easily get a job as a software developer if you do 
wished!

Right - I'm going to crawl through this weeks conversations on rg-devel and 
rg-user and see if I can put some names next to things to do.  Or at least get 
a feel for level of support for future directions.

On one point - who hosts the RG website currently and any chance making this 
editable with some non stone-age tools and for multiple users?

R

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Bown
Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could 
contribute to new website/direction/developments.

Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some 
people who are big current contributors.  This is just to get the ball rolling 
so apologies in advance if your name is here in error or not here and you want 
it here.

 Songwriters  
 Will J Godfrey
 Holger Marzen
 Neil Bryan  User/Supporter

Perhaps the above could contribute links/music/videos etc?

 Current Core Dev
 Michael 
 Tom Breton   
 Daren Beattie
 Ian Gardner  

A plan for the future Dev direction if any.  Having no plan is also fine.

 Devs or Interested in Ports 
 Ian Gardner   Mac Port
 David Tisdell   Mac Port potentially?
 Richard Windows Port.

Maybe some ideas of timescales if these are real possibilities?

 Website
 Brett McCoy
 Michael 
 Chris?
 Richard  

Some idea of what to do with it and how to go forward.

Thoughts?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Bown
Yes, but for the windows port so far audio isn't in scope.  And if it was I 
probably wouldn't do it with JACK I have to say.  Purely because I've got bored 
of fancy APIs for stuff and different models you're forced to adopt to use 
them,  ALSA and JACK did it for me.

Midi with Rtmidi and ? for audio.  Maybe portaudio.  Cross that bridge as and 
when.  And if.

Agree that website and docs and tutorials require a refresh. IMHO would be nice 
to have a clean, modern, fresh approach to website and shift the black 
/italics.  But yes, we've been here before..



On 8 May 2012, at 17:31, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree on the More bang for the buck on a Windows port but JACK already 
 runs on OS X as do some JACK aware apps. Percentage  of the user base wise, 
 the Mac has historically more people creating content (Don't know if that is 
 true today) and it is fully POSIX compliant whereas Windows is not. It may be 
 easier to get a full port over to the Mac. Not being a coder, I can't say for 
 sure but the Ardour people ran into a significant road block on Windows 
 because it wasn't fully POSIX compliant.
 
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:02 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  Perhaps as a starting point we could shake the tree for developers on
  Linux audio user lists, wikis, etc. since Linux is the platform of origin.
  The core work should begin here and ports created as new features are worked
  out. As a member of the Rosegarden community, I would be happy to do that
  but I would like some guidance from people like Michael who are working on
  the project as to what should be said and who and how to contact to get more
  involved.
 
 I don't have the time to help with C++ development (and I definitely
 can't help with Windows porting), but I can certainly help with
 maintaining the website or Wiki pages and documentation. For instance,
 we need to better showcase some of the music being composed on
 Rosegarden (allow me to toot my horn here, but I recently completed a
 2 year study of Orchestration via Berklee and used Rosegarden for
 every single one of my projects). Maybe some video tutorials would
 help also (I'd definitely be up for making some of those). Pushing
 stuff out to Windows and OS X would help exposure also. Graphics apps
 like GIMP, MyPaint and Krita have gotten a lot of adoption from those
 worlds as alternatives to expensive commercial apps, and there is
 definitely room for something like Rosegarden there, too, especially
 since it offers notation, whereas apps like Reaper and Reason don't,
 and have MIDI  Audio capabilties way beyond what Finale or Sibelius
 provide.
 
 --
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Bown

  There is real truth in that.  I've literally never taken a proper go
 somewhere
  and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my
 family as
  a kid.  That was 1987.

 Well, your constitution must be incredible.
 After that, I'd have been in a Happy Farm
 long since!


I got converted into taking holidays by my wife - I never saw the point
twenty years ago.  Now I don't want to stay home.  That's where your rg
development time went..

R
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] ROSEGARDEN 11.11.42, codename Edelweiss RELEASED

2011-12-13 Thread Richard Bown
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, D. Michael McIntyre 
michael.mcint...@rosegardenmusic.com wrote:

 == ROSEGARDEN 11.11.42, codename Edelweiss RELEASED ==

 Rosegarden 11.11.42 is released on this, the 42nd day of November.  Really,
 it's the 41st day of November, but 42 was more fun.


As promised I've now released an updated Alpha 2 package for the Windows
build here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/rosegarden/files/rosegarden/11.11/Windows/

This package has a few structural improvements:

- Recently merged from the main branch so most of the 11.11.42 features
should be available.
- Localised language support is now working.
- All support files from the regular rosegarden distribution as well as all
necessary DLLs are now packaged.
- Fonts are installed automatically.
- If you also install Lilypond for Windows then you can get Print
Previewing/Printing/PDF generation working.
- Path problems should be fixed.

No other changes at this point but we should be a little more up to date
and the installation and packaging should now be more robust.  If you're
upgrading from the first Alpha 1 package then please uninstall it and you
may have a little manual tidy up to complete that.

Cheers,
Richard
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