Re: [Rosegarden-user] quantizing intelligently
> I use heuristic quantizer after recording a playing session. My problem is > I'm not good at keeping machine-perfect tempi. (Well, I don't think any > human can be as precise as MIDI). So it usually needs a lot of tweaking. I > usually add a new track below the recorded track and manually put new > notes in the right places on the new track. That's what I wrote the FitToBeats command to help fix. Even aside from keeping machine-perfect tempi, if you use any rubato at all you'll quickly disagree with the metronome. The idea is that you play it with as much rubato as you want, then you make Rosegarden's tempo conform to that by selecting notes on the beats and then FitToBeats. It's been a while so I don't remember how it got the old notes into the new tempo but there was something to do it and then it lined up nicely. Tom Breton (Tehom) ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Shortcut editor workaround (Re: Some usability questions after a recent project)
> This is inconvenient, crude, and error prone, but at least it works. I > tested the procedure just now, and my notation editor says "RABID TACO > MONKEYS FTW!" instead of "Add accent." No recompile necessary. Thanks. I had no idea that could be done. I assumed that once it was compiled into that resources file, that was The End. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some usability questions after a recent project
> > On 10/09/2015 06:02, Tom Lechner wrote: >> Thanks for the response! >> >> 1... >> Say you have 2 (vertical) tracks. Each has one segment. Both tracks use >> the same instrument and play back to the same midi channel. In the first >> track, the segment starts at time 0. In the second track, the segment >> starts at, say, 5 seconds. Now when I play from time 0, at about 5 >> seconds the pedal cuts out. I'll to go back and check if notes also cut >> out.. I only definitely noticed the pedal going out.. It's possible >> merging controller events from different tracks just doesn't play nice? > Yes it's possible if the different tracks have the same midi channel. So > what might be happening is that you have a CC 64 on on track 1 but then > on track 2 you have a CC 64 off that's what's "cutting" your sustain > pedal.. have a look with the score view, pedal controllers should be > visible as traditional "Ped" and "*".. Merging controller events from different tracks just puts all of the events in together. That's the sort of surprise that "auto" (aka logical instruments) was meant to fix. >>>> 7. tempo change... >>> Yes. there is a tempo ruler at the top. You add start and end desired >>> tempo change and then select 'ramp tempo' or something like that. >>> Beware >>> that this is a rosegarden file only thing and will not be exported to >>> midi. >> >> So for export to a midi file, you mean the event times will ignore the >> tempo changes? > > I think the tempo *changes* will be saved. What will be lost is the > ramps, as Rosegarden is actually doing that in real time. Right. It will adjust the MIDI tempo to track tempo, and will even adjust the tempo several times a measure to make each note come out right in ramps, but there is no way in MIDI to represent a continuous ramp. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools in one place. SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Some usability questions after a recent project
>> >> 3. In matrix mode, it is very easy to select and move around notes, but >> if you have ranges to remove, the controller inputs very easily get out >> of sync. I end up deleting all the sustain pedal events, and rerecording >> just the pedal. > > This is really a problem with having the sustain pedal being a channel > controller, i.e. controllers are not tied to notes but influence the > channel globally. I think they decided to have it that way because > potentially you can have a sustain 'press' *after* a note is played... Well, in MIDI each note-on event only holds a few fields. Anything fancier than pitch and velocity really has to be a controller (or pitch-bend-style double-size controllers, or sysex, but you get the idea) > Controller events should be somehow part of the matrix >> editor, so you can select and move them along with the notes they belong >> to. I tried editing in a "ruler", but I could never drag the events >> around. I would pull just a little, and it jumps way off, seemed like a >> bug. Also, I couldn't delete events in the ruler. > > I agree though that controller editing has always been suboptimal in > rosegarden (e.g. it should be possible to select a bunch of controller > and drag them etc. to make the thing really usable - see how e.g. > qtractor does it) Not sure what version you have but now in the controllers menu in notation, you can cut, copy, and paste controllers from whatever controller ruler is active. >> 4. In matrix mode, particularly the velocity ruler, is there any way to >> apply a "velocity envelope" to a range of notes. That is, scale them, >> like a volume curve slider. So you edit the much simpler envelope to >> affect a whole mess of notes. Alternately, can you apply (not just >> scale) velocity to an envelope? > > No but I'm 99% sure there's something in the Adjust (?) menu to achieve > that effect like 'scale velocities' or similar... Yes, the adjust submenu has a few more options nowadays, and applies to selected notes. >> 8. How do you change key shortcuts?? The default Play and Stop seem to >> be "control enter" and "insert", which are almost totally not useful to >> me. If it could be space to start AND stop, and when it stops revert >> back to when you first started, it would cure a lot of frustration. >> Also, "insert" for the key to stop is right next to the "home" key, so >> if I'm playing, sometimes I jump back to the beginning when I actually >> just wanted to halt playback. Key shortcuts are unfortunately set in stone at compile-time. It's in data/rc/ in the source code if you want to play with it. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] notation and levels
> Hi!
> I dont understand how to move from one level to another in notation
> view.Can be done?
Yes, there's a keyboard shortcut alt-up-arrow or alt-down-arrow, or just
click on the staff.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] end marker in midi export
I'm using PhotoScore to generate midi files. Unfortuately, it seems to put the end marker well past the end of the composition. I thought I could use rosegarden to fix this but I've not succeeded. I can set the composition end but the exported midi is even worse than the original. Yes, we made a decision at some point that it was better to set the composition end well beyond the sounding end, so that users could do certain things without surprises, like move segments or extend them. How can I trim a midi to the actual length of the composition? From the main menu, Composition - Change Composition Start and End. I think that if you export it immediately, it will stay that length, but it's been a long time since I looked at that. Be aware that all sorts of commands will invoke the code that sets the length longer. Hope this works. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] An oddity!
Ha! Got the little bugger! :) :) :) Good work finding that. All the affected parts have an 'orphan' MIDI output in Manage MIDI Devices. The device they were connected to no longer exists - indeed it no longer does in real life! What happens then is they lock on to the only available one - Yoshimi. From here on I'm surmising that they send settings from phantom tracks. In any case if I set them to [no port] and resave the file, next time it loads there is no problem. Good to know, if it comes up again. My guess is that this was originally done to ensure there was always something connected. I wonder if anyone else has been victimised by this version of the law of unintended consequences :o Sounds about right. Slightly before my time, but there used to be concerns that RG would frustrate new users by not making any sound if they hadn't configured it right, so IIUC the idea was it should try hard to play sound if at all possible. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Unwanted CCs - update - !!!AHA!!!
Perhaps I misunderstood your setup - are you reading a MIDI file in, it contains bank changes, and when you play back they are messed up? Or they show the wrong banks in the Instrument Parameter Panel? That would make this code suspect, otherwise I'm afraid I don't see a connection. OK, catching up on my email, I read the other thread (without AHA!), so I see that is essentially what's going on. Now it's just nagging at me, if simply copying over the lsb and msb isn't right, what *is* supposed to happen? Or have we overlooked some minor mistake that corrupts the whole thing? Will look further, and look at the MIDI Abrolag sent - thank you for that. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Unwanted CCs - update
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:22:34 + Abrolag abro...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: [...] I've tried attaching the MIDI version of my test file if anyone wants to have a look at it and see what happens. Have looked at your test MIDI and let MidiEvent::print trace it out. Thank you, and also thank whoever created MidiEvent::print years ago. The one wrong-looking thing I see is that we never erase the msb and lsb variables. Once case MIDI_CTRL_CHANGE has set lsb or msb, case MIDI_PROG_CHANGE will consider it set to that value, forever, until case MIDI_CTRL_CHANGE sets another value. We don't aim lsb and msb at a specific channel, either, so other channels' MIDI_PROG_CHANGEs could be affected. My suspicion is that remembering lsb,msb after MIDI_PROG_CHANGE confuses later MIDI_PROG_CHANGEs that don't have bank controllers, and also we probably shouldn't share them between channels. Does this make sense to you? Tom Breton (Tehom) PS: Added a CC to the devel list. Does this still need to go to RG-user? -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Unwanted CCs
Every time Rosegarden starts up, and every time it starts a run from the beginning it sends reset CCs. I can't seem to find a way to stop this - they are not mentioned in any filter options that I can see. Sounds like the normal setup stuff. Have you tried unchecking all the checkboxes in Instrument Parameters? Basically, that tells it not to try to set up an instrument, because setup will be handled externally, which sounds like what you are doing. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Unwanted CCs
On 02/04/2015 05:49 PM, Abrolag wrote: Yes tried that. It still sends CC 121 (reset all controllers) and it sends it at the start of every segment of every track! ChannelManager::setControllers() appears to be the function doing this. Oh, my. It's right where I wrote: // This was the old logic, but it's not clear that it is still // desirable and I think I ifdef'ed it out after we let it fly for a while and nobody seemed to be using it. Obviously that's not the case, so I'll put it back in immediately. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Disabling auto-scroll
I am trying to use Rosegarden under Linux on a small netbook-type computer. The window title bar, menu bar, tool bar, tempo and chord rulers, lower status/zoom area, and my windowing system's dock all consume vertical space, leaving only about a third of the screen's vertical dimension for the matrix area of the matrix editor. Some of those can be turned off in the View menu, giving you more space. Sorry, no idea about auto-scroll. At first I thought you were talking about the autoscroll that follows the playback - that's easily turned off from the tool bar - but it appears you're talking about something else, how the screen tries to recenter when you move to the edge. I don't know. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Shift tempo changes?
Is it possible. E.g. I have a piece and a set of (many) tempo changes, and tempo remps.. I'd like to shift the whole piece 1 bar forward otherwise the beginning is 'choppy' with the synth used. Abrolag has already pointed out select-and-drag. That won't capture the tempo changes. What will capture the tempo changes is range copy. There are two way to do it, but they both start the same: * Set the range (fat white line on timing bar) to the whole composition. * Cut the range \C-\S-X * Put the playback pointer where it should start * Paste it \C-\S-V To just move tempos and time signatures: * Set the range (fat white line on timing bar) to the whole composition. * Copy the range \C-\S-C * Put the playback pointer where it should start * Paste Conductor Data (from menu) This will leave the old conductor data where it doesn't overlap. If you like, there's Erase Tempos and Timesigs (from menu) Tom Breton (Tehom) -- ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Uncontrollable midi controller signals
Hi there... i need help with a rosegarden feature... rosegarden at the start of a segment playback sends controller signals to midi out (all channels), for example: 01:06:39.360 Ch 2, Ctrl 121, Val 0 01:06:39.360 Ch 2, Ctrl 10, Val 64 01:06:39.360 Ch 2, Ctrl 93, Val 0 01:06:39.360 Ch 2, Ctrl 7, Val 100 01:06:39.360 Ch 2, Ctrl 91, Val 0 i think those signals are for setup the volume,pan,reverb,chorus, but i really don't need them, and is very annoing how rosegarden changes synths paramether... there's a way to avoid sending these particular signals at the beginning of a segment playback, while keeping the signals inserted as manual event (in the event list editor)? Depends on exactly what you want. First, there's no way for those controllers to automatically put themselves into the event list. You can manually put them there. Easiest way is to make a ruler for each controller, select the first note, use Controllers - Place controller once for each ruler, and set them as you like. Once that's done, auto will always send those controllers and not some other values. By some other values, I mean the IPB values. From what you say, I'm not sure whether you have set the IPB values the way you want them - sounds like it's annoying you by setting controllers back to IPB values? Tom Breton (Tehom) -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Is rosegarden-de...@lists.sourceforge.net down?
Tom Breton is trying to work through various complicated issues related to tuplets, I think. I haven't heard much out of him in a long time. This is probably as good a time as any to update you on my work. Yes, I'm working on tuplets. Right now, what I have is both better and worse. It does some of the tricky tuplet stuff without batting an eye. No more grabbing 3 notes of any duration. No more funny rests appearing. Tuplets chord like other notes. I can even input 5-against-3 and it makes sense of it (groups it into 15-lets) On the other hand, it is not mature. Right now, 17-lets can crash it or surprise it so much that it makes normal-looking untupleted 16ths with 17:16 durations. It doesn't obey existing beaming; I am working on that today. It is unstable enough that I haven't dared even put it on a branch yet, but probably soon. I can sketch out the basic design for you, though. I've largely used SegmentNotationHelper as an entry point. I have to commend everyone who wrestled with that jungle before me. There were some very good ideas under the overgrowth, which I was able to keep, though in a very mutated way: * insertNote fits into the existing note/rest splitting if it can, instead of rebuilding. * There is a separate process of making viable. * That collects a list of durations - but now they store more information. Instead of all the special cases and callers having to use makeThisNoteViable, now when insertNote fails to find a good fit, I rewrite the bar. The major new classes: * PerformRatio, which encapsulates tupling. Akin to a Notation Type, but lesser; it doesn't have the I'm-an-event stuff like getAsEvent. It just deals with event properties. I kept getting confused which of tupledCount or untupledCount referred to the 3 in triplets and which meant the 2, I named the class PerformRatio, and outside the class the code refers to the numerator or denominator of the performance ratio. I find that less ambiguous. * RenotateableRegion. This is the fallback when insertNote doesn't find an existing place for a note. It basically rewrites an interval. * MeterPiece, MeterPieceList: What the int that DurationList used to store turned into. Knows the duration, a tupling, how it fits into the meter and how it wants to group with other notes. * MetricTreeNode. We figure out MeterPieceList by splitting a bar treewise; MetricTreeNode is a node in that tree. * EventJuggler. Previously we were doing some amazing and complex things so that NoteInsertionCommand could manage the selection without really knowing what SegmentNotationHelper had done. Now insertNote and insertRest take a selection and manage it. RenotateableRegion would lose that information, but EventJuggler lets it hold on to it. * SegmentMutator: Basically contains old SegmentNotationHelper methods that now want to manage an event selection. * GroupingData: Another lesser Notation Type. It knows how to beam events. * GroupingState: Basically GroupingData plus some info to help map old beaming to new. That's what I'm working on today. * RgMath: A namespace containing some integer math routines I needed. Mostly power-of-2 bithacks. * Various helper classes for them. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] How to cause rosegarden to record via a MIDI signal
I hate messing with it. It's like playing that old Milton Bradley game where you use the tweezers to take out the little plastic bones, and if you touch the sides, you get shocked. (It's not supposed to work like that? Mine sure did! I got many a jolt from that stupid thing.) Milton Bradley should release Rosegarden Operation. If you touch the sides, the buzzer won't make any sound and you have to figure out why. :) That being the case, I'd be in favor of figuring out some other way. Is there some likely MIDI message, an obscure controller, absolutely anything we could poll for and react to without having to fiddle with any of this other delicate stuff? If so, I'd go that route. IIUC we only inspect MappedEvent subtypes at a few places: * Where they come in or out in AlsaDriver * Where we insert them (or not), which you recently changed. We only do that when we're already recording. Alsa was experimenting with some sort of RECORD signal, but I'm not sure the current status of it. There's a little about it here http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.14rc4_v1.0.14 Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Does the current rosegarden record program-change messages?
I was surprised to find that rosegarden is not recording program change events. Before I describe my setup in detail and what I've tried, I'd like to first make sure that I'm not expecting something that does not exist - so, as my subject suggests, my question is: Is the current version of rosegarden supposed to record program-change messages? That decision was before my time, but the code suggests no. The relevant code is in RosegardenDocument::insertRecordedMidi (RosegardenDocument.cpp line 2025). When we get a program-change, we don't insert it. We do read it, pass it around and play it back if playthru is on. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] import midi not working
Hello,I get a invalid file message while trying to import this midi filenote that it plays well in Timidity... http://www.midiworld.com/download/1296 file not found or not readable. That happens because it can't open the file. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Is the pitchbend dialog easy to use?
On the devel list, we're talking about how to make the pitchbend dialog clearer. If you use the pitchbend dialog, if the Vibrato wavelength field changed to cycles per quarter note or hertz, would that be easier or harder for you to use? Thanks, Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting tool for Java/.NET Get 100% visibility into your production application - at no cost. Code-level diagnostics for performance bottlenecks with 2% overhead Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap1 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Is the pitchbend dialog easy to use?
On Thu, 30 May 2013 18:23:38 -0500 Jim Cochrane m_l-...@business.jimcochrane.info wrote: I would vote for the most precise and complete alternative, which, IMO, is cycles per quarter note - as long as that's a correct description of the feature, and I'm sure it is. (I've not used the feature, but it sounds like something I would use if I ever start using Rosegarden intensively.) [...] I'm having second thoughts on this - The functionality is to use pitchbend to set up a periodic rate for a vibrato effect, right? Right. [...] So I think I change my vote to hertz, although for those who might have forgotten what hertz is, perhaps just cycles per second. That makes sense. However, this appears to imply a choice of two different implementations, as well as the naming choice, since, e.g., 10 Hz is twice as slow as 10 cycles per quarter note at q=120 bpm. I suppose this just amounts to doing a calculation/conversion for the UI for one of the choices, so I suspect it's not a big deal. Right, it's pretty easy to convert. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap2 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] current rosegarden on 2002 iBook (Debian) issues
I have renovated a 2002 ibook to run Debian and thought of trying the crazy idea of compiling rosegarden 13.04 on it. I installed the dependencies, got the code, ran the bootstrap.sh ./configure and all went well until the build process. I get: g++: Internal error: Killed (progam cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report make: ***[data/data.o] Error 1 Is it even possible to get 13.04 to run on PowerPC, or should I give up early? This is just a crazy project for me. A compiler isn't supposed to crash on any input, no matter how crazy and buggy the input is. So that's probably indicating that g++ encountering something severe, like running out of memory. I know nothing about ibooks, but Rg does require a lot of memory to compile. I had problems compiling in 1 Gb, until I upgraded. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Setup Automatic Pitch Bend?
By 10 arbitrary settings, do you mean individual notes? No, not notes, settings. User entries on the Pitchbend menu. They remember their last setting. It sounds like you are not using a recent version. If so, this probably isn't making much sense to you. On more recent versions, I added a number of controller commands that also work for pitchbend. They are accessible thru the Controllers submenu. They make this sort of thing easier. If so, the usefulness would soon break down as I deal with tunings such as 31 edo, which has 31 tones per octave. When you say place pitchbends, is there an automatic way to have all notes come with a pitchbend by default, or will I just be inserting them (which I already do)? No. In recent versions Controllers - Place places one pitchbend event (or other controller) per selected note, set to the default value. That goes by what ruler is selected. It does not detect the pitch of notes. You still have to set them to some non-default value that you like, but now it's possible to do ~en masse~. The whole procedure goes something like this: * Select All events * Bring up the pitchbend ruler (has to be before Place). If you bring up (say) the expression ruler, it will place expression controllers instead, etc. * Controllers - Place * There will now be a default pitchbend (8192) on every note. * On the pitchbend ruler, select (say) all the pitchbends on D's * Controllers - Set * There will be a dialog * Choose Flat (which is the default) * Set it to the bend the D's should have, say 5611. * Done. All the notes you selected are bent about 37 cents upwards. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Setup Automatic Pitch Bend?
I have been composing microtonal songs in Rosegarden, which means that none of the standard MIDI notes are the ones I'm interested in. To get the pitches I want, I have been applying a pitch bend event to the 12 piano pitches such as (50, 36) to A (77, 92) to D#, etc. to get the cents values I want. This does work flawlessly by hand, but it is time consuming. Is there a way to tell Rosegarden to bend ALL of a certain note, like a D, a certain amount? That way, whenever I enter a note, it is automatically pitch bent and it will save me time and effort? I would also need different configurations for different tuning systems. Not in the sense of tune all D's 37 cents upwards. Also if I understand what you want, that's more than General Midi pitchbend can do. Canonically, Pitchbend has a range of 2 semitones in either direction, which won't bend A to D#. Applying pitchbends and controllers repeatedly is a little easier than it used to be. You can store and recall 10 arbitrary settings. See the Controllers menu - I think it's in version 12.12 onwards. You could also Place pitchbends on all the notes, then grab (say) all the D's and set them ~en masse~ to what you want. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] copy and paste between rosegarden instances
On 03/18/2013 12:28 PM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote: Yes, but it isn't very useful AFAIK. Starting playing one starts playing the other, etc. No extra functionality but twice the chaos. What is this chaos you speak of? Each instance is self-contained. At one point I had something like a dozen different versions of Rosegarden all running at the same time while testing something or other. It's been a while, but I remember being very surprised that something I did in one Rosegarden was reflected in the other instance. I think I started playing an empty composition and heard the other Rosegarden play. Maybe it was some other action. It definitely surprised me. It had nothing to do with confusing JACK - IIRC, JACK actually took all that without a problem. One thing you might try is editing one, copying to clipboard, then edit the other and paste. That works. I piddled around a few minutes trying to do that, and I see no way to get anything transferred from one instance to another through some intermediary external clipboard. Does that really work somehow or other? I must have explained it badly. Perhaps in the context, it sounded like two simultaneous instances of Rosegarden, which is not what I meant. It's one Rosegarden, two sequential edits. * First edit the first composition, the one you're going to copy from * Copy to clipboard. * Load the second composition, which removes the first one. * Paste from the clipboard. It still has the selection from the first composition. An unintentional feature, but a nice one. I do this from time to time. It works, though obviously it's inconvenient if you want to copy more than one thing. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.12.25 RELEASED...
If I do my usual: svn co http://svn.code.sf.net/p/rosegarden/code/trunk/rosegarden Will that get all the current goodies? IIRC Controllers submenu made it into the latest release. At the moment, last release is just about the same as current trunk. There's experimental stuff not on the trunk. Also (being a pain in the arse) is there any possibility of implementing a Record Pause? Unlikely but I can't speak for the group. You want to dive in and code it? Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] \RemoveEmptyStaves in lilypond output
Which brings me to another rosegarden-related question: is there a way to adjust the playback volumes for individual tracks? You can't achieve what you want fiddling with the volume levels in the mixer? Something like that wants to be adjusted with overall volume, so the relative dynamics are preserved. Maybe the expression controller too. I forget how it works, but it's something to do with modifying volume response somehow or other. Yes. In GM expression is a sort of second volume control. Expression and Volume are multiplied together. The idea is that you adjust the overall track volume with Volume, while Expression controls the moment by moment volume, say for a crescendo. Which I hope helps the OP set things the way he wants. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
I'm mildly annoyed at how long it took to notice this controller thing, but it's just a clear failure of getting the requirements right and getting the testing right. It can be dealt with, and I shouldn't have been such an asshole yesterday toward a great guy like Tom Breton who works so hard and is so reliably consistent about plugging away at this stuff until it's right. Thanks, I appreciate that. Anyways, I didn't take it personally. I really am stressed out right now, and none of it has anything to do with Rosegarden. My personal life is just an impressive train wreck. I totally understand. My life is hectic right now too. I spent the last couple of weeks taking care of my father, who went to the ER on Christmas. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
I'm compiling it now and I'll see if it fixes this. Mixed news: It fixes the problem just if MIDI Mixer Window is open. Of course knowing to open that window is not a real solution. Since MIDI Mixer Window's slot appears to be the only slot that instrumentParametersChanged terminates at, I'm going to have to refactor a bit, probably adding a new slot to RosegardenMainWindow. Don't want to overstuff it, but it's dispatching instrumentParametersChanged in all its manifestations, so ISTM that's the right palce. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
I couldn't find Send Bank Select checkbox on instrument parameter panel. My bad; I was reading from the internal names. Your settings seem correct and should be sending the variation select. The one thing I want to chase down is whether it's correct to send both LSB and MSB before sending program change. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_MIDI says yes. http://home.roadrunner.com/~jgglatt/tech/midispec.htm doesn't say. I can't test it on my cheap-o setup. FWIW (and this is why I'm CC-ing the dev list), we are setting send bank select in a suspicious way in MIDIInstrumentParameterPanel: Whichever of variation or bank is set latest controls whether Instrument's send bank select is set or cleared. Both just call m_selectedInstrument-setSendBankSelect(bool). So if variation is set, then cleared, Instrument will turn bank select entirely off. This seems wrong. I *don't* think that can be the source of Marcio's problem. He has both checks on, so regardless the history he would have send bank select = true, and if it were happening ISTM it would mess up banks rather than clear the variation. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
OBSERVATIONS: When all of this came up out of the box, the Volume for every instrument was set to 0. I had to go change the volume to 0 to hear anything. In all cases, moving the volume knob DID NOT UPDATE the synth volume immediately, and the synth became out of sync with the GUI. IPB shows volume 123 (number the synth won't have gotten to by accident, thus recognizable marker), synth does NOT show volume of 123 on ANY channel. No channel is affected until I move off to a different track and then back to the original track to trigger an update, after having previously changed the volume knob. I tried to reproduce this but I couldn't. Here's what I tried: * emu101k output (my usual) * Timidity++ * QSynth None of these showed any problem with volume. All started at 100 and responded audibly to volume changes without having to move around between tracks. One thing you say makes me wonder if I understand where you are looking: synth does NOT show volume of 123 on ANY channel. So you are seeing this in the synth and not in RG? I tried to check that, but only Qsynth let me see a separate control panel, and I couldn't see anything in it that told me what volume it thinks a channel has. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] clicking piano roll doesn't send any midi events anymore
It should still work in all of the latest versions of RG. I use the piano roll extensively and this feature is most definitely still there. Works here too. Check that your MIDI channel for the track isn't set to 'auto' if it was previously set to a specific channel, it should be set to 'fixed' and a specific MIDI channel. This can cause some unexpected results. That shouldn't make a difference. Preview notes are sent thru a separate mechanism (ImmediateNote) that takes no notice of auto/fixed. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
Although studio setup remains the same (including instrument banks), when playing back, rosegarden seems to bypass assigned program variation, by always forcing default program for assigned program number. Afraid that's probably my fault. I think I know what's missing, so I'll code a fix and push it ASAP. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Trouble with instrument programs and variations
Although studio setup remains the same (including instrument banks), when playing back, rosegarden seems to bypass assigned program variation, by always forcing default program for assigned program number. Afraid that's probably my fault. I think I know what's missing, so I'll code a fix and push it ASAP. Odd. I just checked the code of mine that I thought was at fault, and it isn't. It's already sending variation (ie, bank's LSB and MSB), though I feared it wasn't. The only case where it wouldn't is if Send Bank Select is not checked on MIDI Instrument Parameter Panel. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Play on RG kills percussion track
Is the CLP970 receiving MIDI data on channel 10 but is just not producing sound, or is no MIDI data being sent to it?? Are there any CC07 values being sent to it? Could you please advice me how to monitor or debug the MIDI channels, incl. CC07 values being sent? There are more powerful ways, and I won't recommend this for serious inspection, but you can get a quick look from the transport window (Hit t). Arrange so that just percussion is playing (maybe turn on the metronome). It will either steadily say No event, or flash each event (too quickly to read, but you get a sense of what events are going thru) Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Fw: More info: Re: Bug report: unexpected echo while recording with external keyboard
On 12/30/2012 03:20 PM, Jim Cochrane wrote: [...] stderr) warning messages to the terminal window it was run in - a long stream of 2-line messages to the effect of: WARNING: SegmentNotationHelper::makeNoteViable(): No valid split for event of duration 986 at 259677 (split duration 1440), ignoring remainder WARNING: This is probably a bug; fix required ... I don't know how long this 2-line message was repeated, but it was enough to fill the scroll buffer of my terminal window. (Output saved to file error-output .) I looked at this in SegmentNotationHelper and I suspect these warnings are a red herring. AFAICT SegmentNotationHelper will always do that when it can't exactly represent a note as some tied group of whole notes, halfs, etc. When recording from performance, that's always going to be the case. D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com writes: [...] Is this with 12.12.25 or current SVN? Looking at that with fresh eyes, it looks likely there's another problem of the sort we've seen before with note on and note off getting out of whack, resulting in stupidly long notes that can't be split properly, and other problems. Tom did work on related issues for this release, so the latest Rosegarden is the first place to start. If it's still happening with the latest Rosegarden, then obviously the issues aren't sorted yet. Yes, but I don't think that's it. The noteoff bug I made and fixed only affected outgoing noteoffs, which only MIDI export looks at. It was because I used the wrong STL container, but now we're using the right one (just checked), so the situation seems to afford no opportunity for that particular bug to come back. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] ROSEGARDEN 12.12 RELEASED
All: Thank you all for your efforts in putting out this now release of Rosegarden. I look forward to getting it on the next Ubuntu release in April. In looking over the list of items fixed, I didn't see the fix for where Rosegarden loses the pan and volume settings from files saved from the earlier versions of Rosegarden. Do you know if that fix is actually included, or if that fix will be in a later release? I believe so. It was on the trunk, so it should be in. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] ROSEGARDEN 12.12 RELEASED
All: Thank you all for your efforts in putting out this now release of Rosegarden. I look forward to getting it on the next Ubuntu release in April. In looking over the list of items fixed, I didn't see the fix for where Rosegarden loses the pan and volume settings from files saved from the earlier versions of Rosegarden. Do you know if that fix is actually included, or if that fix will be in a later release? I believe so. It was on the trunk, so it should be in. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Crescendo/Decrescendo on audio tracks?
Hi all, with MIDI-tracks there is no problem doing some automation with e.g. volume control messages. Can I automate the volume of audio tracks (fade-in, fade-out) with Rosegarden? Maybe with MIDI-capable plugins? I'm not aware of any capability, and I just use an external program to fade (sox). I do know that if it existed, internally it would have little in common with MIDI volume control. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] show pitch bend ruler: nothing happens
Hi all, I have a segment (synth plugin) where I use pitch bend. Recording and playing works but I can't edit the pitch bend events because I don't see them. The button show ptch bend ruler can be pressed but it has no effect. The button show velocity ruler works. That is odd. That button works for internal segments but not for synth segments. I did a little digging, but didn't find the problem. We do check that the device supports a control parameter of this name (in ControlRulerWidget::slotToggleControlRuler) but at a cursory glance, that check looks like it's satisfied. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LogMeIn Central: Instant, anywhere, Remote PC access and management. Stay in control, update software, and manage PCs from one command center Diagnose problems and improve visibility into emerging IT issues Automate, monitor and manage. Do more in less time with Central http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein12331_d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] show pitch bend ruler: nothing happens
I did a little digging, but didn't find the problem. We do check that the device supports a control parameter of this name (in ControlRulerWidget::slotToggleControlRuler) but at a cursory glance, that check looks like it's satisfied. 216 printf(pitch bend 01\n); 217 if (!m_controlList) return; 218 printf(pitch bend 02\n); The 2nd printf is never called. So we have no control list? Oh, I think I see it! ControlRulerWidget::setSegments, which makes m_controlList, checks for a device of the right type - but it actually only checks for MidiDevice. Now I have to wonder how the other ruler buttons even work? I just looked, and it's because we do the three types of ruler completely differently! Only pitchbend uses slotToggleControlRuler or checks m_controlList. So not setting m_controlList for synth looks like a mistake. I'll patch it. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- LogMeIn Central: Instant, anywhere, Remote PC access and management. Stay in control, update software, and manage PCs from one command center Diagnose problems and improve visibility into emerging IT issues Automate, monitor and manage. Do more in less time with Central http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein12331_d2d ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 07:55:20 -0400 D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/26/2012 02:46 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Well didn't think it would start such conceited exchanges. Hope you don't think I was being conceited. If I come off that way, it's just because I'm constantly in a huge hurry, and I'm being terse. Anyway, looks like Tom restored the existing behavior for you. Check it out! Actually, I think Lorenzo meant concerted :) Heh, thanks for clearing that up. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- WINDOWS 8 is here. Millions of people. Your app in 30 days. Visit The Windows 8 Center at Sourceforge for all your go to resources. http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ join-generation-app-and-make-money-coding-fast/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
On 10/25/2012 05:16 PM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote: But what's puzzling me most is that I can't reproduce it in the current working version. I did what I thought the steps were, but I must have missed something. First up, let's all get on the same page. I read Lorenzo's message again and as far as I can tell we're all still talking about playback, _not_ recording. If you found some weird recording thing, it's not what we're talking about. Oh, I see. Yes, I had found something different. Thank you for setting me straight! 1. Draw a segment on track 1 and put some junk in it, set it to repeat This is our noise making source. It repeats just so you have less junk to draw to slap the test together, and you could substitute a really long segment filled with lots and lots of junk (or even real music if you prefer!) 2. While it's playing, change the instrument on track 1 from #1 to #2, which also changes the channel from 1 to 2 in the process. Yes, that works to reproduce it. I'm going to have a look at it. I suspect it won't be that hard to fix. (Famous last words again) Tom Breton (Tehom) -- The Windows 8 Center In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
I'm going to have a look at it. I suspect it won't be that hard to fix. (Famous last words again) OK, I've fixed it. TrackButtons now reacts to changing the instrument by calling new function SequenceManager::segmentInstrumentChanged on each segment on the affected track. A bit quick-and-dirty: segmentInstrumentChanged just remaps the segment. There's a much faster way to do it but it'd be more complex and it's not clear that it needs to be that fast. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- The Windows 8 Center In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Instrument (midi channel) change is not updated during playback [WAS] Re: auto channel takes over and re-activates automatically
My question: do MIDI program change messages at least work during playback? This is something that should be supported by any MIDI sequencer. -~Chris You're asking about program change messages that set the instrument to something different than what the track dialog at the left is showing? If I understand your question, that will work if you set fixed channel and uncheck Bank and Program in Instrument Parameters. Tom Breton (Tehom) -- The Windows 8 Center In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started! http://windows8center.sourceforge.net/ what-html-developers-need-to-know-about-coding-windows-8-metro-style-apps/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
