Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Ted Felix]

  There is also a setting in the preferences:

Edit > Preferences > General > Presentation > Dark mode (Thorn style)

Ted.

On 2/4/23 3:23 PM, Babarosa wrote:

I see. After deleting the config file my theme changed from dark to
system. Thanks!

Am 04.02.23 um 19:17 schrieb Ted Felix:

Yeah.  I'm probably going to go with "native", "classic", and "dark"
for the names for the three and introduce a new (probably integer)
setting in the .conf.

Ted.

On 2/4/23 1:00 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 04/02/2023 17:51, Ted Felix wrote:

   Unthemed is still an option.  I have not changed that and Lorenzo
is keeping me honest there since he uses it.


Confirmed. I've never used the 'dark' theme (just a general personal
preference for light themes with most Qt software (with exceptions)
due to my eyesight) and always used the light one happily...

AFAIK this setting is also retained as a setting in
$HOME/.config/rosegardenmusic/ use_thorn_style=false

(at least that's its location on my system, not sure if this varies
with distributions)

So, I guess it should remain with upgrades?

Lorenzo.



Ted.

On 2/3/23 9:46 PM, Patrick May wrote:

I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an
option. Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i
do in rosegarden when i set up a new system.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa, mailto:babar...@gmx.at>> wrote:

    I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set
my system
    theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for
a third
    option "use system theme".

    Greetings, Michael

 > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give
me a
    headache after
 > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
    possibility of
 > this being revived as a third option.
 >


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Babarosa]

I see. After deleting the config file my theme changed from dark to
system. Thanks!

Am 04.02.23 um 19:17 schrieb Ted Felix:

Yeah.  I'm probably going to go with "native", "classic", and "dark"
for the names for the three and introduce a new (probably integer)
setting in the .conf.

Ted.

On 2/4/23 1:00 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 04/02/2023 17:51, Ted Felix wrote:

   Unthemed is still an option.  I have not changed that and Lorenzo
is keeping me honest there since he uses it.


Confirmed. I've never used the 'dark' theme (just a general personal
preference for light themes with most Qt software (with exceptions)
due to my eyesight) and always used the light one happily...

AFAIK this setting is also retained as a setting in
$HOME/.config/rosegardenmusic/ use_thorn_style=false

(at least that's its location on my system, not sure if this varies
with distributions)

So, I guess it should remain with upgrades?

Lorenzo.



Ted.

On 2/3/23 9:46 PM, Patrick May wrote:

I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an
option. Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i
do in rosegarden when i set up a new system.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa, mailto:babar...@gmx.at>> wrote:

    I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set
my system
    theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for
a third
    option "use system theme".

    Greetings, Michael

 > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give
me a
    headache after
 > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
    possibility of
 > this being revived as a third option.
 >


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Will Godfrey]

I like that.
I'd of course be plumping for the "Classic" :)

On Sat, 4 Feb 2023 13:17:21 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Yeah.  I'm probably going to go with "native", "classic", and "dark" 
>for the names for the three and introduce a new (probably integer) 
>setting in the .conf.
>
>Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Ted Felix]

  Yeah.  I'm probably going to go with "native", "classic", and "dark" 
for the names for the three and introduce a new (probably integer) 
setting in the .conf.


Ted.

On 2/4/23 1:00 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 04/02/2023 17:51, Ted Felix wrote:
   Unthemed is still an option.  I have not changed that and Lorenzo 
is keeping me honest there since he uses it.


Confirmed. I've never used the 'dark' theme (just a general personal 
preference for light themes with most Qt software (with exceptions) due 
to my eyesight) and always used the light one happily...


AFAIK this setting is also retained as a setting in 
$HOME/.config/rosegardenmusic/ use_thorn_style=false


(at least that's its location on my system, not sure if this varies with 
distributions)


So, I guess it should remain with upgrades?

Lorenzo.



Ted.

On 2/3/23 9:46 PM, Patrick May wrote:
I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an option. 
Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i do in 
rosegarden when i set up a new system.


On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa, > wrote:


    I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my 
system
    theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a 
third

    option "use system theme".

    Greetings, Michael

 > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a
    headache after
 > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
    possibility of
 > this being revived as a third option.
 >


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 04/02/2023 17:51, Ted Felix wrote:
   Unthemed is still an option.  I have not changed that and Lorenzo is 
keeping me honest there since he uses it.


Confirmed. I've never used the 'dark' theme (just a general personal 
preference for light themes with most Qt software (with exceptions) due 
to my eyesight) and always used the light one happily...


AFAIK this setting is also retained as a setting in 
$HOME/.config/rosegardenmusic/ use_thorn_style=false


(at least that's its location on my system, not sure if this varies with 
distributions)


So, I guess it should remain with upgrades?

Lorenzo.



Ted.

On 2/3/23 9:46 PM, Patrick May wrote:
I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an option. 
Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i do in 
rosegarden when i set up a new system.


On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa, > wrote:


    I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my 
system
    theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a 
third

    option "use system theme".

    Greetings, Michael

 > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a
    headache after
 > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
    possibility of
 > this being revived as a third option.
 >


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Ted Felix]

  Unthemed is still an option.  I have not changed that and Lorenzo is 
keeping me honest there since he uses it.


Ted.

On 2/3/23 9:46 PM, Patrick May wrote:
I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an option. 
Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i do in 
rosegarden when i set up a new system.


On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa, > wrote:


I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my system
theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a third
option "use system theme".

Greetings, Michael

 > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a
headache after
 > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
possibility of
 > this being revived as a third option.
 >


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Patrick May]

I second this,  please keep the unthemed mode available as an option.
Turning off the thorn theme has long been the first thing i do in
rosegarden when i set up a new system.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2023, 18:02 Babarosa,  wrote:

> I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my system
> theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a third
> option "use system theme".
>
> Greetings, Michael
>
> > These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a
> headache after
> > a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any
> possibility of
> > this being revived as a third option.
> >
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Will Godfrey]

Thanks Ted. That will be great :)

On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 13:43:46 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

>   Sorry about that.  I should know better than to modify the user 
>interface without offering a fallback option.  Not a problem.  It's at 
>the top of my TODO.
>
>Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Ted Felix]

  Sorry about that.  I should know better than to modify the user 
interface without offering a fallback option.  Not a problem.  It's at 
the top of my TODO.


Ted.

On 2/2/23 12:49 PM, Babarosa wrote:

I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my system
theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a third
option "use system theme".

Greetings, Michael

These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a 
headache after
a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any 
possibility of

this being revived as a third option.




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[david]

That makes sense to me. I hope there's a reasonable programmatic way to 
use "system themes" despite people running RG under different desktop 
environments/managers in the Linux world (Gnome, KDE's Plasma, XFCE, 
etc). . Do they all implement "themes" the same way?


I like dark themes but I'm kind of a nocturnal person. I don't get a 
headache from either of them, but I find the light one a bit bright on 
my OLED display.


On 2/2/23 07:49, Babarosa wrote:

I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my system
theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a third
option "use system theme".

Greetings, Michael

These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a 
headache after
a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any 
possibility of

this being revived as a third option.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Babarosa]

I also do not really like the dark/thorne theme. I used to set my system
theme as Rosegarden's theme. Therefore I also ask politely for a third
option "use system theme".

Greetings, Michael


These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a headache after
a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any possibility of
this being revived as a third option.




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Will Godfrey]

On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 11:52:14 -0800
mark_at_yahoo via Rosegarden-user  wrote:

>For anyone who like me spent 30 minutes failing to get this to work 
>before discovering the secret, you have to click on the "resize" bar to 
>the left of the desired panel and then drag. Mouse cursor changes when 
>hovering over the correct spot. FWIW, I'm on a 1920x1080 monitor and 
>normally run the main window around half to 75% full screen width, so I 
>don't have enough room to place all the panels on one line. But it's a 
>good trick to know anyway.
>
>Piggybacking off this (as usual) with another related question: What's 
>the point of having two copies of the marker and loop/measures rulers, 
>one above and one below the tracks? (And similar in the notation and 
>matrix editors.) Screen real estate is *always* limited -- doesn't 
>matter if you have 8K or dual/triple 4K monitors or whatever.
>
>I keep thinking about removing the 2nd/bottom set from my fork of the 
>code but have been warned that trying to do anything as radical as that 
>in the main branch in would result in me being lynched. (Yet it was OK 
>in beta 23.06 to change the track area to "dark" in dark theme? An 
>improvement IMO, but what about the hypothetical user who liked it the 
>way it was?) Even the very few minor-but-incompatible UI changes in the 
>fork were met with disapproval, but since that's the path I'm on maybe I 
>should just continue down it. If anyone has a compelling rationale for 
>the duplicated rulers (beyond "that's the way it's always been") I'm 
>very interested in hearing about it so I can reconsider.
>
>
>On 1/26/23 9:33 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Well that was curious. I'd tried that many times over with no success, but 
>> just
>> tried again and it worked perfectly! Thanks :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 16:36:43 +
>> chuck elliot  wrote:
>>   
>>> I think it is possible to do this for yourself by dragging and dropping
>>> toolbars from one panel to the other.
>>>
>>> A whole panel can be hidden by deselecting the toolbars that it contains...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chuck.

These days I find both the dark theme and the light one give me a headache after
a while. I *much* prefer the older mid range one. Is there any possibility of
this being revived as a third option.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[mark_at_yahoo via Rosegarden-user]

For anyone who like me spent 30 minutes failing to get this to work 
before discovering the secret, you have to click on the "resize" bar to 
the left of the desired panel and then drag. Mouse cursor changes when 
hovering over the correct spot. FWIW, I'm on a 1920x1080 monitor and 
normally run the main window around half to 75% full screen width, so I 
don't have enough room to place all the panels on one line. But it's a 
good trick to know anyway.


Piggybacking off this (as usual) with another related question: What's 
the point of having two copies of the marker and loop/measures rulers, 
one above and one below the tracks? (And similar in the notation and 
matrix editors.) Screen real estate is *always* limited -- doesn't 
matter if you have 8K or dual/triple 4K monitors or whatever.


I keep thinking about removing the 2nd/bottom set from my fork of the 
code but have been warned that trying to do anything as radical as that 
in the main branch in would result in me being lynched. (Yet it was OK 
in beta 23.06 to change the track area to "dark" in dark theme? An 
improvement IMO, but what about the hypothetical user who liked it the 
way it was?) Even the very few minor-but-incompatible UI changes in the 
fork were met with disapproval, but since that's the path I'm on maybe I 
should just continue down it. If anyone has a compelling rationale for 
the duplicated rulers (beyond "that's the way it's always been") I'm 
very interested in hearing about it so I can reconsider.



On 1/26/23 9:33 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:

Well that was curious. I'd tried that many times over with no success, but just
tried again and it worked perfectly! Thanks :)


On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 16:36:43 +
chuck elliot  wrote:


I think it is possible to do this for yourself by dragging and dropping
toolbars from one panel to the other.

A whole panel can be hidden by deselecting the toolbars that it contains...

Regards,

Chuck.



On 26/01/2023 1:58 pm, Will Godfrey wrote:


Rosegarden has two panels of icons at the top, neither of which is very long
compared to my normal matrix width. Is it possible to to combine these as one
longer panel - thus giving at least another track's worth of vertical space?

With the 'endemic' availability of mostly wide screens this would make better
use of available space.




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[Will Godfrey]

Well that was curious. I'd tried that many times over with no success, but just
tried again and it worked perfectly! Thanks :)


On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 16:36:43 +
chuck elliot  wrote:

>I think it is possible to do this for yourself by dragging and dropping 
>toolbars from one panel to the other.
>
>A whole panel can be hidden by deselecting the toolbars that it contains...
>
>Regards,
>
>Chuck.
>
>
>
>On 26/01/2023 1:58 pm, Will Godfrey wrote:
>
>> Rosegarden has two panels of icons at the top, neither of which is very long
>> compared to my normal matrix width. Is it possible to to combine these as one
>> longer panel - thus giving at least another track's worth of vertical space?
>>
>> With the 'endemic' availability of mostly wide screens this would make better
>> use of available space.
>>
>
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[chuck elliot]

I think it is possible to do this for yourself by dragging and dropping 
toolbars from one panel to the other.


A whole panel can be hidden by deselecting the toolbars that it contains...

Regards,

Chuck.



On 26/01/2023 1:58 pm, Will Godfrey wrote:


Rosegarden has two panels of icons at the top, neither of which is very long
compared to my normal matrix width. Is it possible to to combine these as one
longer panel - thus giving at least another track's worth of vertical space?

With the 'endemic' availability of mostly wide screens this would make better
use of available space.




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[Rosegarden-user] An Enquiry

[Will Godfrey]

Rosegarden has two panels of icons at the top, neither of which is very long
compared to my normal matrix width. Is it possible to to combine these as one
longer panel - thus giving at least another track's worth of vertical space?

With the 'endemic' availability of mostly wide screens this would make better
use of available space. 

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