Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2019-06-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 13/06/2019 18:52, Ted Felix wrote:

On 4/3/18 12:35 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)


   I'm now applying for the above position.  Sorry it took over a year...

   In svn you will now find that both the Matrix and the Notation 
editors behave like the segment canvas.  If you drag something outside 
of the viewport, a relatively gentle auto-scroll should begin.  


Ted thanks!! This is great.. so many times I had just 'slipped' way to 
far left or right :)


Lorenzo.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2019-06-14 Thread D. Michael McIntyre

On 6/13/19 2:39 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:


   I'm now applying for the above position.  Sorry it took over a year...


Position granted :)
Much much better!


I dinked around with it too.  I can't find anything to quibble about, 
and it just feels consistent and good.  I find it satisfying that 
somebody finally sorted out stuff that people have been struggling with 
since before the 1.0 days.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2019-06-13 Thread Will Godfrey
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 12:52:46 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 4/3/18 12:35 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)  
>
>   I'm now applying for the above position.  Sorry it took over a year...

Position granted :)
Much much better!

Also, the other day I was messing about with a idea (admittedly fairly small)
where I was doing a lot of cutting and pasting, along with some deletions, both
inside segments and the segments themselves. So far no crashes, so cautiously
optimistic there too.


Will.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2019-06-13 Thread Ted Felix

On 4/3/18 12:35 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)


  I'm now applying for the above position.  Sorry it took over a year...

  In svn you will now find that both the Matrix and the Notation 
editors behave like the segment canvas.  If you drag something outside 
of the viewport, a relatively gentle auto-scroll should begin.  The 
further you go outside, the faster the auto-scroll.  Horizontally 
anyway.  Vertical is fixed rate since rg doesn't do a lot vertically.


  If the window is close to the right edge of the monitor, the 
auto-scroll area might be moved into the viewport a little.


  Also, all of the rulers (standard, tempo, controller) should exhibit 
the same behavior.  In some places, this was completely missing, so if 
you've grumbled about a lack of auto-scroll anywhere in the UI, it 
should be there now.  If it isn't, it can be added very easily.


  As always, please test this to death and let me know if I missed 
anything.


Ted.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-04 Thread Ted Felix

On 04/03/2018 12:24 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

On 04/02/2018 01:36 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
make it *much* slower and less aggressive.

   I fixed this on the "segment canvas".  Is the auto-scroll behavior
there OK for you?  If so, we can go ahead and copy that behavior to all
of the other editors.

Yes! That's a much better idea.


  I've opened bug #1558 to track this.

Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 12:07:11 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton  wrote:

>Hi Will,
>
>On 02/04/2018 19:36, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
>> make it *much* slower and less aggressive.
>> 
>> Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was driving 
>> me
>> nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise :(
>>   
>
>Just curious: when you say "multiple tracks in the matrix editor", you 
>mean literally more than one track all 'merged' into one matrix window?

No, to be clear, I have several matrix editors open and flip between them when
making corrections, or adding harmonies.

>And what exactly do you mean with auto-scolling (not the follow playback 
>right?)
>
>Lorenzo.

With stationary matrix windows I drag notes around with the mouse; pitch,
position, length, and with the velocity controller showing also drag those -
sometimes singly, sometimes groups (thanks for getting the groups sorted guys).
When I'm in the 'grove' I move about quite fast, and the existing high speed
scroll when you get even remotely near the edges, can suddenly dump you three
octaves away - or a dozen bars :(

If Ted can fix this he'll be my hero for life :)

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 22:20:19 -0400
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

>On 04/02/2018 05:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.  
>
>I'm very much less active than I used to be, but I still monitor the 
>lists, and I still look out for messages nobody else is answering.  I 
>looked back through my inbox, and see no other messages from you.  They 
>may be in the list archives, but I didn't get them.
>
>While I'm writing, I may as well let people know what I've been up to 
>lately.
>
>I was a MIDI and notation guy for many years, but then I bought a set of 
>drums.  I mostly play drums and guitars now, and I mostly work with 
>audio.  I was never a strong reader on guitar, and I didn't spend a lot 
>of time with drum notation either.
>
>My drum recording setup is complicated, and managing the hardware on 
>Linux is a complete nightmare.  After 15 years of using Linux 
>exclusively, I finally switched to Windows for audio and video 
>production.  Windows is survivable if you just use it for dedicated work 
>like this, and don't install any crap on it.
>
>Beyond all this, I went in with my son to buy a vintage truck.  The work 
>we wanted to do required a welder and a cutting torch.  Once I had 
>those, I knew it was time to set up the forge I had kept on my bucket 
>list for 20 years.  Once I had the forge, I wanted a milling machine to 
>make easier work of making cross-guards for knives.  Once I had a mill, 
>I wanted a lathe too.  I also got a vinyl cutter so I could make masks 
>for etching lettering and ornamental designs into knife blades.
>
>I was having problems with condensation on my equipment, so I did some 
>research and came up with a solution to the problem.  The guy posted his 
>finished project with just a vague outline of how it worked.  I gave 
>myself a crash course in Arduino, and put together the Dewbane 
>Condensation Management system.  It uses sensors, relays, and heaters to 
>keep my equipment heated above the dew point, so my expensive investment 
>is protected from condensation damage.  There has been a little bit of 
>interest in the hobby machinist community, and I may sell a few of these 
>commercially.
>
>So that, in a nutshell, is why I don't have time to develop Rosegarden 
>anymore.  I am very grateful to Ted Felix for picking up and carrying 
>the torch.
>

Always good to hear from you Michael.
I see you swapped one treadmill for another :) :)

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technology away from the man!

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 17:30:57 -0400
Ted Felix  wrote:

>On 04/02/2018 01:36 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:
>> Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
>> make it *much* slower and less aggressive.  
>
> > Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was   
>driving me nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise
>
>   I fixed this on the "segment canvas".  Is the auto-scroll behavior 
>there OK for you?  If so, we can go ahead and copy that behavior to all 
>of the other editors.
>
>   The segment canvas auto-scrolls only when you drag outside of the 
>editing area.  The further you go outside, the faster it scrolls.  The 
>matrix editor has the older behavior where scrolling starts inside the 
>editing area.  It's also somewhat unpredictable as to speed.
>
>Ted.
Yes! That's a much better idea.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 02, 2018 10:20:19 PM D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 04/02/2018 05:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.
> 
> I'm very much less active than I used to be, but I still monitor the
> lists, and I still look out for messages nobody else is answering.  I
> looked back through my inbox, and see no other messages from you.  They
> may be in the list archives, but I didn't get them.

Ok, I checked the archives, and my email is one of 2 in the February archive, 
it is time stamped: 2018-02-19 00:43:03.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 02, 2018 10:20:19 PM D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 04/02/2018 05:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.
> 
> I'm very much less active than I used to be, but I still monitor the
> lists, and I still look out for messages nobody else is answering.  I
> looked back through my inbox, and see no other messages from you.  They
> may be in the list archives, but I didn't get them.

Hmm, I'll look in the list archives, then find my original emails and send them 
again if they are not in the archives.  Probably not today.

> 
> While I'm writing, I may as well let people know what I've been up to
> lately.

Very interesting stuff snipped--good luck with all that and your commercial 
venture...

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-03 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi Will,

On 02/04/2018 19:36, Will Godfrey wrote:

Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
make it *much* slower and less aggressive.

Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was driving me
nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise :(



Just curious: when you say "multiple tracks in the matrix editor", you 
mean literally more than one track all 'merged' into one matrix window?


And what exactly do you mean with auto-scolling (not the follow playback 
right?)


Lorenzo.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread D. Michael McIntyre

On 04/02/2018 05:30 PM, Ted Felix wrote:

   I fixed this on the "segment canvas".  Is the auto-scroll behavior 
there OK for you?  If so, we can go ahead and copy that behavior to all 
of the other editors.


It took some time to get used to the new behavior on the segment canvas, 
but you did your homework, and your well-researched and 
solidly-implemented solution performs very consistently and well.  I 
quite like it, and copying the behavior elsewhere strikes me as a fine idea.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread D. Michael McIntyre

On 04/02/2018 05:22 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.


I'm very much less active than I used to be, but I still monitor the 
lists, and I still look out for messages nobody else is answering.  I 
looked back through my inbox, and see no other messages from you.  They 
may be in the list archives, but I didn't get them.


While I'm writing, I may as well let people know what I've been up to 
lately.


I was a MIDI and notation guy for many years, but then I bought a set of 
drums.  I mostly play drums and guitars now, and I mostly work with 
audio.  I was never a strong reader on guitar, and I didn't spend a lot 
of time with drum notation either.


My drum recording setup is complicated, and managing the hardware on 
Linux is a complete nightmare.  After 15 years of using Linux 
exclusively, I finally switched to Windows for audio and video 
production.  Windows is survivable if you just use it for dedicated work 
like this, and don't install any crap on it.


Beyond all this, I went in with my son to buy a vintage truck.  The work 
we wanted to do required a welder and a cutting torch.  Once I had 
those, I knew it was time to set up the forge I had kept on my bucket 
list for 20 years.  Once I had the forge, I wanted a milling machine to 
make easier work of making cross-guards for knives.  Once I had a mill, 
I wanted a lathe too.  I also got a vinyl cutter so I could make masks 
for etching lettering and ornamental designs into knife blades.


I was having problems with condensation on my equipment, so I did some 
research and came up with a solution to the problem.  The guy posted his 
finished project with just a vague outline of how it worked.  I gave 
myself a crash course in Arduino, and put together the Dewbane 
Condensation Management system.  It uses sensors, relays, and heaters to 
keep my equipment heated above the dew point, so my expensive investment 
is protected from condensation damage.  There has been a little bit of 
interest in the hobby machinist community, and I may sell a few of these 
commercially.


So that, in a nutshell, is why I don't have time to develop Rosegarden 
anymore.  I am very grateful to Ted Felix for picking up and carrying 
the torch.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread Ted Felix

On 04/02/2018 01:36 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
make it *much* slower and less aggressive.


> Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was 
driving me nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise


  I fixed this on the "segment canvas".  Is the auto-scroll behavior 
there OK for you?  If so, we can go ahead and copy that behavior to all 
of the other editors.


  The segment canvas auto-scrolls only when you drag outside of the 
editing area.  The further you go outside, the faster it scrolls.  The 
matrix editor has the older behavior where scrolling starts inside the 
editing area.  It's also somewhat unpredictable as to speed.


Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 02, 2018 04:44:11 PM Will Godfrey wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:02:11 -0400
> 
> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> >I presume you're not looking for the little icon near the playback icons
> >(things like Play, Stop, Rewind) which is labeled "Scroll to Follow
> >Playback (Pause)"?
> 
> No, I'm manually editing in the matrix editor and dragging notes around.

Ok, I guess I can't help you, then.

> 
> P·S.
> This list has always been a relatively low traffic one.

Thanks--at least I know my messages are getting to the list.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread Will Godfrey
On Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:02:11 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

>I presume you're not looking for the little icon near the playback icons 
>(things like Play, Stop, Rewind) which is labeled "Scroll to Follow Playback 
>(Pause)"? 

No, I'm manually editing in the matrix editor and dragging notes around.

P·S.
This list has always been a relatively low traffic one.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Auto-scrolling

2018-04-02 Thread rhkramer
I presume you're not looking for the little icon near the playback icons 
(things like Play, Stop, Rewind) which is labeled "Scroll to Follow Playback 
(Pause)"? 

(I responded to you primarily because I was glad to see someone actually post 
to this list--I had posted one (or two?) question(s) here maybe a month ago, 
and did not get a response (and rarely, if ever see a post on this list).)

It is nice to see that this list is not totally dead.

(One of my questions had to do with having enough space for lyrics which might 
use longer words--I guess I've done the best I can for now by setting the 
spacing to 220% on the Notation Editor, and I am constrained to (at least for 
the time being) use version 12.04 of Rosegarden as that is what is supported 
on my Wheezy version of Debian.)

On Monday, April 02, 2018 01:36:20 PM Will Godfrey wrote:
> Would some kind person please provide a way to switch this off, or at least
> make it *much* slower and less aggressive.
> 
> Today I was editing multiple tracks in the matrix editor and it was driving
> me nuts. It is especially bad when moving notes pitch-wise :(

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