Re: [Rosegarden-user] Please help: no sound 11.11.42-51.17 earlier [suse 12.x kDE]

2012-08-27 Thread jimmy

 Once you have a low-latency kernel, check related
 configuration in:
 
    /etc/security.d/limits.conf  , or 
 
    /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf
 

Oops, I meant:

   /etc/security/limits.conf  , or

   /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf

Mine had at least:

@audio   -  rtprio 70
@audio   -  memlockunlimited
@audio   -  nice  -10


it means your userid, which start jackd, needs to belong to the groupid called 
audio.

I think in Debian, the /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf portion is done by 
the package manager when jackd2 is configured to use realtime priority.  But 
you need to check the userid that starts up jackd belongs to the audio group.  
The command groups should list all the groupid's that the current user 
belongs to.

This is the low-latency configuration portion of a pre-compiled low-latency 
kernel.

You can check to see similar configuration done within the Musix liveCD 
environment.

Again, once you understand all the numerous steps and things which need to be 
in placed, you can configure any Linux distro to do similar thing, but each 
distro may have done things slightly different.  If any of those are out of 
placed, you may not get Linux MIDI to work, or may have numerous problems like 
no sound, latency (out of sync, long delayed note) issues, skipped notes...

Jimmy


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Please help: no sound 11.11.42-51.17 earlier [suse 12.x kDE]

2012-08-27 Thread k-12
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:53:09 -0700 (PDT)
jimmy  wrote:

  Once you have a low-latency kernel, check related
  configuration in:
/etc/security/limits.conf  , or

all commented out

/etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf

don't have that one
 
 Mine had at least:
 
 @audio   -  rtprio 70
 @audio   -  memlockunlimited
 @audio   -  nice  -10
 
 
 it means your userid, which start jackd, needs to belong to the groupid 
 called audio.
 
 I think in Debian, the /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf portion is done by 
 the package manager when jackd2 is configured to use realtime priority.  But 
 you need to check the userid that starts up jackd belongs to the audio group. 
  The command groups should list all the groupid's that the current user 
 belongs to.
 
 This is the low-latency configuration portion of a pre-compiled low-latency 
 kernel.
 
 You can check to see similar configuration done within the Musix liveCD 
 environment.
 
 Again, once you understand all the numerous steps and things which need to be 
 in placed, you can configure any Linux distro to do similar thing, but each 
 distro may have done things slightly different.  If any of those are out of 
 placed, you may not get Linux MIDI to work, or may have numerous problems 
 like no sound, latency (out of sync, long delayed note) issues, skipped 
 notes...
 
 Jimmy


I tried Musix-2.0 live and installed it when rosegarden just plain worked out 
of the box, also installed Ubuntu-Studio but haven't tested it yet, seems 
promising. 64studio bombed on reboot twice so something in that one is broke, 
anyway with the other two I should be OK.

So thanks for you help one more time. I'll probably back later with small stuff 
because unless I move to Debian full time I will still want to set up Suse like 
a studio.





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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Please help: no sound 11.11.42-51.17 earlier [suse 12.x kDE]

2012-08-26 Thread jimmy

On Sun, 26 Aug 2012, k...@trixtar.org wrote:

 
 OpenSuse-12.1 or 12.2
 KDE4
 
 Some soundfonts  fluidsynth are installed
 This works, I can hear the midi:
   fluidsynth -a alsa -l
 /0/sa14/comp/build-common/music/sf2-filez/Unison.sf2
 /0/sa14/guitar/midi/mmp.mid


At least you have some MIDI sound.  The problem is that command tells 
Fluidsynth to use Alsa audio, which locks Alsa audio in exclusive mode, and 
Jackd (Qjackctl) can't access the Alsa audio for audio output.

Here's my Fluidsynth command:

   fluidsynth  -a jack -j -r 44100 -g 0.40  -o synth.midi-bank-select=xg  
/full-path-to/soundfonts/Unison.sf2

you can skip the -o synth.midi-bank-select=xg, if you don't care about Yamaha 
XG midi stuff.

Note the -a jack tells Fluidsynth to use Jackd audio output instead of 
Alsa audio.  So you need to have jackd already running, or if you use 
Qjackctl you need to have jackd started within Qjackctl.

After I have qjackctl started jackd, I can get the full command by looking at 
the output of:

   ps -ef | grep jackd | grep -v grep

and that command starts from the /usr/bin/jackd, until the end of that output 
text line.  Once you get all the parameters selected as you want in qjackctl, 
the command to start jackd may be helpful if you want to use the commandline 
instead of qjackctl.

Anyway, once you have both qjackctl and fluidsynth started, click on Connect 
button of qjackctl.  Within the qjackctl connection window, The Audio tab is 
the jackd audio (not Alsa audio) connections.  The MIDI tab is for jack 
MIDI connections.  The ALSA tab is for Alsa MIDI connections.

   Select Audio tab, make sure fluidsynth is connected to system.

   Select ALSA tab, select 14:Midi through on the left list (output ports), 
select Fluid synth on the right list (input ports), click on Connect button 
within that qjackctl connection window.  This is the 

If you don't see 14:Midi through, you may need to load some kernel modules 
into memory with the modprobe command.  Here are my midi kernal modules loaded:

   lsmod | grep -i midi

snd_seq_midi3592  0 
snd_rawmidi12701  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event  3620  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq35462  11 
snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_device  3969  5 
snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi


I don't remember which one is the one that shows up as 14:Midi through, I 
believe it is snd_seq_midi, but I could be wrong.

The Audio tab selection above is automatically connected by the -j option 
of the fluidsynth command.  If you use fluidsynth without the -j option, you 
will need to manually connect it to the jack audio output to hear any sound 
using jackd.

The ALSA tab selection above is connect the virtual midi-through port to the 
fluidsynth Alsa MIDI input port.

Now you can test play a midi file with:

   aplaymidi -p 14  /full-path-to/some-midifile.mid

the -p 14 option of aplaymidi tells it to send Alsa MIDI output to port 14, 
which is the same as the virtual midi-through port shown in qjackctl 
connection window under ALSA tab.

Again, the order of apps that need to get started are:

   jackd (manually, or via qjackctl)

   fluidsynth using jack audio output, not Alsa audio output (manually, or 
via qsynth), make sure to specify a GM soundfont file within fluidsynt, or 
qsynth.

   connect both jack audio, and alsa MIDI connections.

   play a sample midi file with aplaymidi.

Once you get all tha working, you should have at least a vague idea of the 
difference between jack audio vs Alsa audio, as well as some idea about 
Alsa MIDI connection.

Now you can try to start Rosegarden, then try to connect the first rosegarden 
Alsa MIDI output port to FLUID synth directly, or connect rosegarfen Alsa 
MIDI output port to 14:Midi through, and 14:Midi through to  FLUID synth.



 PluseAudio is so hard wired into KDE that I cannot uninstall
 it
 While trying to find my way in the ncurses also mixer
 sliders I lost 
 all sound and had to recover the entire partition from a
 backup.

I don't use PulseAudio at all, so I don't know for sure if it can cause 
problem, but I have heard plenty, so I stay away from it.



 
 If I try Qjackctl with server path: pasuspender --jackd
 
 on launch it gives 
    21:53:56.441 Patchbay deactivated.
    21:53:56.443 Statistics reset.
    21:53:56.444 ALSA connection change.
    21:53:56.448 ALSA connection graph
 change.
 
 when I click Start it continues with
    21:56:02.022 JACK is starting...
    21:56:02.022 /usr/bin/pasuspender --jackd
 -v -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -H
    21:56:02.025 JACK was started with
 PID=5731.
    21:56:02.027 JACK was stopped with exit
 status=1.
    21:56:04.065 Could not connect to JACK
 server as client. - 
    Overall operation failed. - Unable to
 connect to server. 
    Please check the messages window for more
 info.

The problem may be that PulseAudio is already stared and grab a 

[Rosegarden-user] Please help: no sound 11.11.42-51.17 earlier [suse 12.x kDE]

2012-08-25 Thread k-12

Hello,

I'm new to rosegarden (11.11.42-51.17)  cannot for 
the life of me get any sound out of it! Have tried 
earlier rosegarden versions too.

Fluyidsynth  qsynth are installed, soundfonts too.

Jack/qjackctl are installed (sofar not used)

I load a midi file into rosegarden just to test sound 
and try to play it, it plays but no sound. Looking for 
a real good step by step tutorial not about composing 
music but about settin it up so that it can be heard.

Thanks


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