Re: [Rosegarden-user] Realtime Input

[Ted Felix]

On 3/1/21 3:10 AM, Mike Knott wrote:

 1. First and foremost, I say I have been tinkering. For those of you
who have properly examined what I've said... am I right so far?


  Like Lorenzo mentioned, the guy in the video just hit record and 
played to the metronome.  Notion then worked out some notation for that. 
 It wasn't ideal (since he was using his sustain pedal), so he did some 
tweaks.  Rosegarden can do exactly this.


  Just record nice and mechanically against the metronome into a 
Segment and have a look in the notation editor.  It will likely be off 
here and there.  Use the quantization function to try and auto-correct 
the "errors".  You can also use the matrix editor to tweak things to 
perfection.  You can also try recording at half tempo.  That might allow 
you to get closer to something that is "perfectly" mechanical.


  I don't think Notion is doing much more than this.

  Step edit is more useful when you can't play a piece yet.  It lets 
you enter the notes and chords one-by-one and then listen to it.


Ted.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Realtime Input

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 01/03/21 14:47, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

 From the peanut gallery:

On Monday, March 01, 2021 03:10:17 AM Mike Knott wrote:

So... a few questions:
First and foremost, I say I have been tinkering. For those of you who
have properly examined what I've said... am I right so far?Is it
possible to hit that "advance" button via a midi controller such as a
foots witch (and, if so, how)?Take a look at this:
. The language is not
English but just watch from about 3:45.


I watched the video, and it seems clear (to me ;-) that the advance is based
on the click track (or whatever it is called).


Unless I totally missed something looks like in the video he is 
recording MIDI via a MIDI keyboard? Not sure if that's what the OP is 
asking...




As a very amateur musician, the advantage of midi note entry is I can do it in
other than real time.

The video didn't show it, but I wonder if there would be settings in Notion to
make the note entry at some slower rate, like half time or such.  So I could
enter notes in my slower fashion but then have them played back at "full
speed"?


In any sequencer (including Rosegarden), you can record at any tempo and 
then change the playback speed.


Lorenzo.


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[Rosegarden-user] Realtime Input

[Mike Knott]

Good morning.

I have checked out the step time input from midi in rosegarden (I have 
a midi guitar). I'm a classical guitarist and most of the input will be 
shifting between durations and will be contrapuntal. Just to play this 
in as separate voices is actually a good exercise in bringing out the 
voices (or even seeing them in the first place) but really awkward to 
do.


I think... from my tinkering... that half of the awkwardness (entering 
notes OR chords) can be remedied by just choosing chord entry as this 
also accepts single notes. But with chord entry the assumption seems to 
be that we are going to enter the notes of the chord sequentially 
(which, in fairness is true with a strummed chord) but, as such, the 
cursor does not advance in chord mode and a separate key press is 
required to manually advance it.


So... a few questions:
First and foremost, I say I have been tinkering. For those of you who 
have properly examined what I've said... am I right so far?Is it 
possible to hit that "advance" button via a midi controller such as a 
foots witch (and, if so, how)?Take a look at this: 
. The language is not 
English but just watch from about 3:45. Here we have real time input 
into Notion notation package: single notes, chords, no manual 
advancing. This is what I'm trying to achive. Both Rosegarden and 
Denemo say this is too error prone to be worth it. Seems very good 
here. Is this, in any way, possible in Rosegarden?Is the above possible 
in ANY linux software?Another thing Notion offers is tight integration 
with STudio One (I have used them both). Studio One includes Melodyne 
and I have seen attempts to enter polyphonic audio into Melodyne then 
use that software to create the midi then use the midi to create the 
notation. Has anybody had any success with Sonic Visualiser (the only 
alternative to Melodyne that I'm aware of) in achieving decent results 
(accurate notation)?
Apologies for the somewhat broad question. I love Linux and, while 
Notion on a Mac or PC seems to do exactly what I want, if I can do it 
in Linux I'll do it in Linux. If I can find a way of "advancing" in 
chord input mode in Rosegarden with a footswitch, this might be, just, 
acceptable. But, obviously, I'd rather be able to do what the guy in 
the video can do.


Mike

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