Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-11 Thread Holger Marzen
On Thu, 10 May 2012, Chris Cannam wrote: On 10 May 2012 12:38, Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: On one point - who hosts the RG website currently and any chance making this editable with some non stone-age tools and for multiple users? I host it. It gets updated

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: ...It's a prettier example of the same sort of breed as that car. After a bit more reflection, it occurs to me the real problem is not the eclectic design, but that every neat little gizmo bolted onto this thing was manufactured by a

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Bown
liberal arts major. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1VhsNOwPU No great loss. Software is a pain in the ass. It is. And any professional software of this size and complexity would be equally gnarly. It's just the way it is and we all learn to accept this eventually because for some of us

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Chris Cannam
On 10 May 2012 12:38, Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: On one point - who hosts the RG website currently and any chance making this editable with some non stone-age tools and for multiple users? I host it. It gets updated automatically from the Subversion repo.

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Gardner
I guess this problem affects all software development, but I wouldn't know that, because I'm not a professional by any means.  I guess Rosegarden is my rude awakening to all the jubilation and glee I missed out on by being a liberal arts major. No great loss.  Software is a pain in the ass. --

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Chris Cannam
[cc -devel] On 10 May 2012 13:41, Ian Gardner ilgard...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I guess people like me are part of the problem in this regard, turn up one day, chuck something in to do with linked segments and then f. off into the sunset. Fly-by-night, here today and gone tomorrow contributors

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Richard Bown
Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball rolling so apologies in

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Andy
Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current contributors. This is just to get the ball

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Brett McCoy
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012, Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread David Tisdell
I can try and recruit some Mac developers but I am not a developer myself. I know how to compile things but not write code. I could also contribute something in the songwriting area. Another thought is that Debian used to post a list of consultants (probably still does) where people could go for

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Abrolag
On Wed, 9 May 2012 07:20:25 +0200 (CEST) Holger Marzen hol...@marzen.de wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2012, Abrolag wrote: On the promotional side... For what it's worth, absolutely every track on my website - and there are one or two there :) - was developed and performed using Rosegarden.

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread Abrolag
On Thu, 10 May 2012 17:18:11 +0200 Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-10 Thread david
On 05/10/2012 05:46 AM, Andy wrote: Richard Bown wrote: Ok so a quick trawl of emails turned up some names perhaps that could contribute to new website/direction/developments. Just to say that this is just a quick scan and I may have missed out some people who are big current

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread david
Actually, this David was only semi-joking about the matrix editor. I look at pieces of programs as resource costs. Resources spent on the matrix editor are not available for use on what I consider more important parts of the program. For what it's worth, I've have liked matrix editors for

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Bown
Yes, but for the windows port so far audio isn't in scope. And if it was I probably wouldn't do it with JACK I have to say. Purely because I've got bored of fancy APIs for stuff and different models you're forced to adopt to use them, ALSA and JACK did it for me. Midi with Rtmidi and ? for

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread David Tisdell
The attempt at a Mac port was done before the codebase had been moved to qt. It was installed through fink. I exchanged email with the person who had tried it and he had run into significant problems because of KDE dependencies and he gave up. Nice to hear about the commercial version of Ardour

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread PMA
D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, PMA wrote: Waay too hard on yourself. You need a (free) weekend in Acapulco! There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go somewhere and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Richard Bown
There is real truth in that. I've literally never taken a proper go somewhere and see something sort of vacation since the last one I took with my family as a kid. That was 1987. Well, your constitution must be incredible. After that, I'd have been in a Happy Farm long since! I

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Mario Moles
Hello everyone! That's a lot that does not speak in this ml-list! I also have something to say on the future of rosegarden. I really like rosegarden. But I'm a maniac lilypond, mainly by Frescobaldi, because exploitation of power by lilypond rosegarden is, forgive me, ridiculous and

Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-08 Thread Chris Cannam
On 8 May 2012 08:23, Richard Bown richard.b...@ferventsoftware.com wrote: I have failed. What absolute self indulgent rubbish. Though a very nicely constructed extended metaphor. I think you're sort-of right that the proper answer ought to be a nice brisk one about how it's just going the way