Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-26 Thread David Tisdell
I am glad to hear that the networking problem seems unusual. I tried
UbuntuStudio 3 separate times and had networking issues every time which
didn't exist with the same version of regular Ubuntu. That experience
steered me away from Ubuntustudio. It seems like it is the only DAW distro
that has had real staying power. Others have been around for 1 or 2 revs
and died or there has been a very long gap between updates.

In general, i am not overly fond of Ubuntu as a distro. When I experienced
the networking issues in studio, I was less inclined to troubleshoot than I
would have been in a distro I was more familiar with and liked better but
with the staying power of studio, perhaps I should take another look.

Dave

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:06 PM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

  On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I have tried Ubuntustudio before but have had lots of issues with
  networking. Seems like there are few if any network drivers enabled in
  the
  Ubuntustudio Kernel. This is why I installed straight Ubuntu and added
  the
  music programs I use. Networking issues is a huge deal breaker in my
  environment.
 
  That's strange, it should have everything Ubuntu has in terms of
  networking support. I use Ubuntu Studio on multiple machines,
  including a laptop with wireless, and networking has always worked out
  of the box.
 
  --
  Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
  

 You're right, that is strange.  My company has two Ubuntu Studio machines
 connected to our Linux cluster.  The cluster itself consists of mostly
 Debian boxen but there is a CentOS machine in there.  Some Knoppix
 machines are also sometimes coupled in.  We use fixed IP addresses which
 is a requirement of some of the back-end video rendering software we use.
 Initial setup is a bit tedious but the combined grunt of the cluster is
 formidable.

 Rich Marschall -- http://www.hydrophones.com/MAI-Audio





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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-26 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am glad to hear that the networking problem seems unusual. I tried
 UbuntuStudio 3 separate times and had networking issues every time which
 didn't exist with the same version of regular Ubuntu. That experience
 steered me away from Ubuntustudio. It seems like it is the only DAW distro
 that has had real staying power. Others have been around for 1 or 2 revs and
 died or there has been a very long gap between updates.

Ubuntu Studio 3? Must have been a very old version, since 10.04 or so
it has become a very solid and musician friendly distribution. It's up
to 13.04 right now (I am still on 12.04 LTS), and essentially
maintains full compatibility with plain Ubuntu. as they are all
released together.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-26 Thread David Tisdell
Thomas had it correct, 3 separate times

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Brett McCoy idragos...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Thomas Sattler tomsatt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Ubuntu Studio 3? Must have been a very old version
 
  Uh  no, that's not what he wrote.  He wrote that he tried Ubuntu
 Studio,
  and he tried it three separate times.  If I read it correctly.

 Yep, you're right, I misread it.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros networking

2013-02-26 Thread k-12


This networking topic just cought my eye. For whatever it may/maynot be worth 
I've been using this D-Link usb wifi transceiver that seems to work out of the 
box with several distros 

http://www.dlink.com/ca/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-131-wireless-n-nano-usb-adapter

there's a slightly larger newer version available too. The driver I think is 
r8712u. I bought several of the buggers when they came out so as to have a 
standardised interface for all my destktops/laptops and sofar I'm VERY happy 
with it.

- UbuntuStudio
- Debian
- OpenSuse
- not sure about some of the others that I use much less frequently (hardly 
ever)

It gives me the added ability to instantly and physically disconnect by just 
pulling it or to use it on any computer. It is usually auto detected and when I 
have any problem I just pull  reinsert to reset everything. 

HTH


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros networking

2013-02-26 Thread David Tisdell
Cool. Thanks for the info!

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:



 This networking topic just cought my eye. For whatever it may/maynot be
 worth I've been using this D-Link usb wifi transceiver that seems to work
 out of the box with several distros


 http://www.dlink.com/ca/en/home-solutions/connect/adapters/dwa-131-wireless-n-nano-usb-adapter

 there's a slightly larger newer version available too. The driver I think
 is r8712u. I bought several of the buggers when they came out so as to have
 a standardised interface for all my destktops/laptops and sofar I'm VERY
 happy with it.

 - UbuntuStudio
 - Debian
 - OpenSuse
 - not sure about some of the others that I use much less frequently
 (hardly ever)

 It gives me the added ability to instantly and physically disconnect by
 just pulling it or to use it on any computer. It is usually auto detected
 and when I have any problem I just pull  reinsert to reset everything.

 HTH



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-25 Thread ram
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM, David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have tried Ubuntustudio before but have had lots of issues with
 networking. Seems like there are few if any network drivers enabled in
 the
 Ubuntustudio Kernel. This is why I installed straight Ubuntu and added
 the
 music programs I use. Networking issues is a huge deal breaker in my
 environment.

 That's strange, it should have everything Ubuntu has in terms of
 networking support. I use Ubuntu Studio on multiple machines,
 including a laptop with wireless, and networking has always worked out
 of the box.

 --
 Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.brettwmccoy.com
 

You're right, that is strange.  My company has two Ubuntu Studio machines
connected to our Linux cluster.  The cluster itself consists of mostly
Debian boxen but there is a CentOS machine in there.  Some Knoppix
machines are also sometimes coupled in.  We use fixed IP addresses which
is a requirement of some of the back-end video rendering software we use. 
Initial setup is a bit tedious but the combined grunt of the cluster is
formidable.

Rich Marschall -- http://www.hydrophones.com/MAI-Audio




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-24 Thread Tim Munro
k...@trixtar.org wrote:

 There is one residual pissoff issue withit it though and that has to do with
 jack connections I think. A lot depends on the shutdown sequence, I ususally
 disconnect all in qjackctl and then shut down the apps in the group. If I mess
 this part up, or every time some of them just crash, then a real mess ensues
 requiring at a minimum a KDE reset, sometimes SEVERAL complete reboots on az
 Asus Crosshair-IV system with two onboard sound devices. KDE seems to be
 screwed up as to which can or cannot be used until it gets sorted out after
 several reboots.

I'm not familiar with the quirks of various distros (I've been with Slackware
for quite a while now), but the problem you describe sounds like it might be
the work of udev.  udev works at bootup to dynamically assign names to
various interfaces as the kernel discovers them.  The problem is that multiple
interfaces of the same type are not always discovered in the same sequence and
can end up with different names each time the machine boots.  Naturally this
breaks any setup that requires some sort of naming consistency.  Although I've
never had more than one sound interface, I have experienced much grief with
multiple ethernet cards and cdroms.

udev has a rules file (usually somewhere in /etc) where it allegedly supports
persistent rules, designed to circumvent this sort of nonsense.  But
persistent rules are of little value when udev can simply replace them (on my
system at least).  The only way I found to achieve a stable setup was to write
one final udev rule that fires a script that overwrites the new persistent rules
that udev has likely just written.

With any luck you will find a distro that doesn't exhibit this behavior.

Tim Munro

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-24 Thread k-12
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 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:41:19 -0500
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 On 02/23/2013 04:41 PM, k...@trixtar.org wrote:
 
  I tried MusiX-2 and it was the first time I could get Rosegarden to
  work really. There seemed to be no support at that time and I let it
  go. Also tried Ubuntu-Studio-12.04 and it worked fine but having been
  spoiled I have a hard time doing what I want in any Debian-based
  system so I keep it as a stby.
 
 Hmm, haven't had problems making Debian do what I want. Haven't looked 
 at SuSE for ages.

If you saw the stuff I have set up you'd understand but it's not 
an RG topic so I won't go into it here in detail. As one example 
I have 300 or so custom scripts to mount/unmount partitions on 
dedicated mountpoints, start windows by first of all copying-in 
from a sterile archive, start-stop apache etc. etc. etc. all of 
these are in a nested dropdown menu in the panel just one click 
away :-)

I've spoiled myself rotten, Suse is no screaming hell MM-wise but 
I am for the time being on the hook 


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden friendly distros

2013-02-23 Thread k-12


I tried MusiX-2 and it was the first time I could get Rosegarden to work 
really. There seemed to be no support at that time and I let it go. Also tried 
Ubuntu-Studio-12.04 and it worked fine but having been spoiled I have a hard 
time doing what I want in any Debian-based system so I keep it as a stby. My 
primary system is OpenSuse which is very easy and clean to use but Rosegarden 
could not be used on it at all with Jack until version 12.2 when the devs 
really put it all together eventhough Suse is not known as a MM strong distro. 
I now CAN set it all up with Qsynth, qjackctl, Zyn  (and Pulse uninstalled). 

There is one residual pissoff issue withit it though and that has to do with 
jack connections I think. A lot depends on the shutdown sequence, I ususally 
disconnect all in qjackctl and then shut down the apps in the group. If I mess 
this part up, or every time some of them just crash, then a real mess ensues 
requiring at a minimum a KDE reset, sometimes SEVERAL complete reboots on az 
Asus Crosshair-IV system with two onboard sound devices. KDE seems to be 
screwed up as to which can or cannot be used until it gets sorted out after 
several reboots. Now that I've heard about MisiX-3 I'll sure check it out too. 
Meanwhile I 'd love to see one of the RG devs adopt OpenSuse as that would 
likely make my life easier :-)



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