Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden projects

2021-08-29 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 27/08/2021 21:04, Will Godfrey wrote:

I have an idea that might help with several issues.

Many other programs have the concept of a project folder/directory that you
are invited to create when you start afresh. Rosegarden doesn't.
How about having this, but instead of a popup window, which is most annoying,
have a button somewhere prominent labelled 'New Project'.

Once defined by the user, Rosegarden would create it and immediately save the
current default project file inside it carrying the same name. Any MIDI or
Audio files would then be referenced directly there, rather than the current
system (possibly with any sources copied in as well).



To be totally honest I always liked the fact Rosegarden saves to a 
single file. I of course create a directory if the 'project' includes 
other stuff (such as yoshimi state file etc.). I guess the real need for 
this is when you need audio?


The advantage of Rosegarden vs. e.g. Ardour or QTractor, is that you can 
'just' fire it up and start making music without having to decide a 
project name, decide a directory, etc. If / when you decide to save you 
just do it with a single command... In 'extreme' cases you can even 
start rosegarden without jack, it still work and you can maybe quickly 
input notation or do something without it complaining too much.



For compatibility, loading any existing project file could either regard the
existing location of that file as the project directory for all related
audio/Rosegarden files or offer to create a new directory carrying that
name and moving the file (and any related audio ones) it into it, so turning it
into a complete project.

This is actually what I do manually every time I start. A typical one is:

/data/Source/0-Albums/Quietly Fading/
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav.pk
Mystery.bld
Mystery_Guitar.wav
Mystery.rg
Mystery.xmz



But in that case isn't only the .rg and the .wav and .pk files 
Rosegarden-relevant?


I also usually put yoshimi files in a same directory if Yoshimi is 
involved, but - for instnace - I have a unique directory for soundfonts 
/SFZ etc. and wouldn't want them replicated.


I know the problem of 'self-contained' audio (DAW) project is 
essentially unsolvable for all situations (add plugins and complexity 
increases exponentially...).


Lorenzo


So that's the two audio conversion files,
My manually created info file,
The originating audio file,
Rosgarden's file,
Yoshimi's file,





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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden projects

2021-08-28 Thread Ted Felix

  I opened [feature-requests:#494] to track this.  Please vote for it.

https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/494/

Ted.

On 8/27/21 3:04 PM, Will Godfrey wrote:

I have an idea that might help with several issues.

Many other programs have the concept of a project folder/directory that you
are invited to create when you start afresh. Rosegarden doesn't.
How about having this, but instead of a popup window, which is most annoying,
have a button somewhere prominent labelled 'New Project'.

Once defined by the user, Rosegarden would create it and immediately save the
current default project file inside it carrying the same name. Any MIDI or
Audio files would then be referenced directly there, rather than the current
system (possibly with any sources copied in as well).

For compatibility, loading any existing project file could either regard the
existing location of that file as the project directory for all related
audio/Rosegarden files or offer to create a new directory carrying that
name and moving the file (and any related audio ones) it into it, so turning it
into a complete project.

This is actually what I do manually every time I start. A typical one is:

/data/Source/0-Albums/Quietly Fading/
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav.pk
Mystery.bld
Mystery_Guitar.wav
Mystery.rg
Mystery.xmz

So that's the two audio conversion files,
My manually created info file,
The originating audio file,
Rosgarden's file,
Yoshimi's file,




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden projects

2021-08-27 Thread David W. Jones
I vote for this!

On August 27, 2021 9:04:55 AM HST, Will Godfrey  
wrote:
> I have an idea that might help with several issues.
> 
> Many other programs have the concept of a project folder/directory that you
> are invited to create when you start afresh. Rosegarden doesn't.
> How about having this, but instead of a popup window, which is most annoying,
> have a button somewhere prominent labelled 'New Project'.
> 
> Once defined by the user, Rosegarden would create it and immediately save the
> current default project file inside it carrying the same name. Any MIDI or
> Audio files would then be referenced directly there, rather than the current
> system (possibly with any sources copied in as well).
> 
> For compatibility, loading any existing project file could either regard the
> existing location of that file as the project directory for all related
> audio/Rosegarden files or offer to create a new directory carrying that
> name and moving the file (and any related audio ones) it into it, so turning 
> it
> into a complete project.
> 
> This is actually what I do manually every time I start. A typical one is:
> 
> /data/Source/0-Albums/Quietly Fading/
>   conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav
>   conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav.pk
>   Mystery.bld
>   Mystery_Guitar.wav
>   Mystery.rg
>   Mystery.xmz
> 
> So that's the two audio conversion files,
> My manually created info file,
> The originating audio file,
> Rosgarden's file,
> Yoshimi's file,
> 
> -- 
> Will J Godfrey
> https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/
> http://yoshimi.github.io
> Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
> Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
> 
> 
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[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden projects

2021-08-27 Thread Will Godfrey
I have an idea that might help with several issues.

Many other programs have the concept of a project folder/directory that you
are invited to create when you start afresh. Rosegarden doesn't.
How about having this, but instead of a popup window, which is most annoying,
have a button somewhere prominent labelled 'New Project'.

Once defined by the user, Rosegarden would create it and immediately save the
current default project file inside it carrying the same name. Any MIDI or
Audio files would then be referenced directly there, rather than the current
system (possibly with any sources copied in as well).

For compatibility, loading any existing project file could either regard the
existing location of that file as the project directory for all related
audio/Rosegarden files or offer to create a new directory carrying that
name and moving the file (and any related audio ones) it into it, so turning it
into a complete project.

This is actually what I do manually every time I start. A typical one is:

/data/Source/0-Albums/Quietly Fading/
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav
conv-Mystery_Guitar_-20121128-205631-4.wav.pk
Mystery.bld
Mystery_Guitar.wav
Mystery.rg
Mystery.xmz

So that's the two audio conversion files,
My manually created info file,
The originating audio file,
Rosgarden's file,
Yoshimi's file,

-- 
Will J Godfrey
https://willgodfrey.bandcamp.com/
http://yoshimi.github.io
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.


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