Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem -fixed - ish!

2012-12-15 Thread Abrolag
A bit of a ramble here - stay with me guys :)

Last week, I screwed up an update on my 'office' machine so badly that the
only sensible option was a re-install. However, because of the problems I've
been having I decided to install Squeeze, instead of Wheezy.

For Rosegarden I got the 13164 svn, and there was no problem with hearing
played notes. I then took the compiled image down to my music machine and lo
and behold exactly the same!

In puzzlement I fetched the same source version and compiled it on that machine
(running Wheezy). Once again, the problem seems to have disappeared - although
still need to specify qtlibdir. My best guess is that one of the updates I also
did has fixed some qt problem, as nothing else had changed.

Looking around the two systems I notice that Squeeze has /usr/lib usr/lib32 and
a symlink usr/lib64 that points back to /usr/lib. However, Wheezy has /usr/lib
and *inside* that is x86_64-linux-gnu.

I don't want to mess about really, but I'm wondering if adding
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu to PATH might resolve the config issue, and
also correct some anomalies I have with programs that use the boost lib.

However, back to Rosegarden. I've found two more new (I think) problems.

In the matrix window it used to be possible to have the velocity ruler
showing, then select a group of notes and change the velocity of the all of
them by dragging one of the velocity tabs up and down. If I try that now, just
the note related to that tab changes and the group selection goes odd. This is
not a show-stopper, but it was very nice for adding or changing the dynamics
of a track.

The other problem which is quite new, is the behaviour of the volume control in
the 'special parameters' box. If you adjust this while the transport is
stationary nothing happens!

If, on playback or record you adjust it on a track that has a segment playing,
it seems to work normally. If you adjust it on a track that you have selected
for MIDI input but doesn't actually have a segment running at that time
(you're playing live) it again does nothing. Very strange.

Putting control changes in a track seems to work OK, so this again is not a
show-stopper, just a nuisance.

Anyway, enough of all this, and for some light relief, here is a track I
recorded not too long ago... 100% Rosegarden+Yoshimi, Oh, and real guitar at
the end :)

http://www.musically.me.uk/music/Mystery.ogg

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-05 Thread Holger Marzen
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Abrolag wrote:

> Also, I now have to use ./configure --with-qtlibdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu

On my Xubuntu 11.10 I always had to do that. Abd on 12.04 LTS I have to
do that as well.

Regards
Holger

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-05 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 12/05/2012 01:40 PM, Abrolag wrote:

> Also, I now have to use ./configure --with-qtlibdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
>
> I never needed to do that before, so that suggests something is quite wrong.

I think pretty much everybody on a 64-bit system has to specify the path 
manually now, including me.  Debian changed its architecture, and the 
changes propagated through all the derivative distros, like Ubuntu.

I looked at tweaking the build system, and I ended up just writing the 
new configure command in a shell script instead.  Git'r done.

Anyway, I'm quite at a loss too why you would be seeing a problem I'm 
not, but I don't have time just at the moment to compare notes on 
library versions and other such.

Did you try deleting your userland configuration files and starting 
fresh?  Tehom and I agreed it sounds like your problem could be as 
simple as a malfunctioning configuration setting.  Changing Qt versions 
does cause compatibility problems with the configuration file from time 
to time.  The window position stuff has been particularly troublesome in 
this regard.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-05 Thread Abrolag
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:30:04 -0500
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

> > I can't reproduce it.  MIDI routes thru normally here.
> 
> I think it's doing the same here too.
> 
> Test situation:
> 
> MIDI keyboard -> Edirol UM-2 -> ALSA -> Rosegarden -> ALSA ->
> Edirol UM-2 -> MIDI synth
> 
> Playing the keyboard makes noise come out the synth.  Recording, 
> everything seems normal.
> 
> > It sounds so much like un-checking the MIDI through checkbox, but you say
> > that's not it, so I'm stumped.
> 
> Corrupt settings file maybe?  Delete 
> ~/.config/rosegardenmusic/Rosegarden.conf and try again?
> 
> I have no clue off hand, but I can't reproduce it either with a fresh 
> build of SVN and my config stuff is fresh also, because this is a very 
> recent new home directory I'm using.

It's beginning to look as if there is something borked in my installation of
the debian wheezy build environment. I can't now recompile the old versions that
used to work (good job I kept the images)!

I did an upgrade from squeeze to wheezy on the old machine (that I now use for
office work) and that is now showing exactly the same problems.

I don't know if it's relevant but in synaptic there is itemised gcc 4.4.7-2 and
qt 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2

Also, I now have to use ./configure --with-qtlibdir /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu

I never needed to do that before, so that suggests something is quite wrong.

I'm quite at a loss here. I don't know if the build environment of squeeze is
different or if I've miss configured it - I find that unlikely. In the first
instance I did the install exactly as I had before but with wheezy instead of
squueze, and in the second machine, I simply followed the debian upgrade
instructions.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-03 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
> I can't reproduce it.  MIDI routes thru normally here.

I think it's doing the same here too.

Test situation:

MIDI keyboard -> Edirol UM-2 -> ALSA -> Rosegarden -> ALSA ->
Edirol UM-2 -> MIDI synth

Playing the keyboard makes noise come out the synth.  Recording, 
everything seems normal.

> It sounds so much like un-checking the MIDI through checkbox, but you say
> that's not it, so I'm stumped.

Corrupt settings file maybe?  Delete 
~/.config/rosegardenmusic/Rosegarden.conf and try again?

I have no clue off hand, but I can't reproduce it either with a fresh 
build of SVN and my config stuff is fresh also, because this is a very 
recent new home directory I'm using.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-03 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)
>> > the incoming events
>> > are shown in the transport window, and if the transport is running on
>> record
>> > the material is correctly laid down, but the MIDI messages are not
>> passed
>> > through to the output, so there is no sound. Stop and replay the
>> freshly
>> > recorded track and everything sounds correctly.
>>
>> I'll try to test and confirm later, but even if I do, this isn't the
>> sort of problem I'm likely to figure out how to fix.
>
> Pinned this down a bit more. It's exactly the same as if you've un-checked
> MIDI
> through routing in earlier versions. So has the through routing somehow
> become
> borked?

I can't reproduce it.  MIDI routes thru normally here.

It sounds so much like un-checking the MIDI through checkbox, but you say
that's not it, so I'm stumped.

Tom Breton (Tehom)



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-12-02 Thread Abrolag
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:56:00 -0500
"D. Michael McIntyre"  wrote:

> On 11/18/2012 01:01 PM, Abrolag wrote:
> 
> > When an external MIDI source is feeding into Rosegarden,
> 
> Such as routing something like pmidi into Rosegarden?

Or a real MIDI device.

> > the incoming events
> > are shown in the transport window, and if the transport is running on record
> > the material is correctly laid down, but the MIDI messages are not passed
> > through to the output, so there is no sound. Stop and replay the freshly
> > recorded track and everything sounds correctly.
> 
> I'll try to test and confirm later, but even if I do, this isn't the 
> sort of problem I'm likely to figure out how to fix.

Pinned this down a bit more. It's exactly the same as if you've un-checked MIDI
through routing in earlier versions. So has the through routing somehow become
borked?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-11-25 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 11/18/2012 01:01 PM, Abrolag wrote:

> When an external MIDI source is feeding into Rosegarden,

Such as routing something like pmidi into Rosegarden?


> the incoming events
> are shown in the transport window, and if the transport is running on record
> the material is correctly laid down, but the MIDI messages are not passed
> through to the output, so there is no sound. Stop and replay the freshly
> recorded track and everything sounds correctly.

I'll try to test and confirm later, but even if I do, this isn't the 
sort of problem I'm likely to figure out how to fix.
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[Rosegarden-user] Serious MIDI recording problem

2012-11-18 Thread Abrolag
This occurs with git builds  12920 & 13099
It doesn't occur with 12726 or earlier.

When an external MIDI source is feeding into Rosegarden, the incoming events
are shown in the transport window, and if the transport is running on record
the material is correctly laid down, but the MIDI messages are not passed
through to the output, so there is no sound. Stop and replay the freshly
recorded track and everything sounds correctly.

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