[Rosegarden-user] The post-PCI era

2014-10-30 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
My computer started flaking out after running like a top for 6-7 years, 
and I decided to use that as an excuse to replace it.  I bought my first 
ever off-the shelf, big box retail machine.  The bright side is I put 
more gigas in my hertz, and I can boot from USB sticks now.

It has a bunch of solder plugs where the PCI slot would have gone. 
Somebody decided to save $0.39, because nobody uses PCI anymore.

That means the old mAudio Audiophile 24/96 (ice1712/envy24) joins my 
collection of obsolete and useless soundcards, and I don't presently 
have any way of getting the audio signal from my computer to my 
amplifier, as I was using SPDIF.

Taking a quick look around, it appears to be the age of USB audio 
dongles.  This would be a good time to look at what I'm actually likely 
to do with my setup, and come up with one neat, tidy solution to replace 
the tangled morass of random bits of kit I accumulated over the years.

I might record from two different microphones at once.

I might record from two different line level inputs at once.

I need a way to monitor the mix on headphones so I don't record the mix 
as background noise on subsequent tracks.

I need coax SPDIF output (or possibly something else, and a new 
amplifier, as this thing is kind of limping anyway)

I'm likely to continue with Ubuntu, so if the dongle I buy needs 
firmware, it should be something readily and easily available through 
Ubuntu.

Anyway, I thought I'd see what more modern people are using these days, 
and fish for suggestions.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The post-PCI era

2014-10-30 Thread Greg Lyons
It feels weird to type this, but the interest in music-making on Apple
iPads has been good for Linux, in the sense that it seems to have driven
more manufacturers to provide truly class-compliant USB audio and MIDI
interfaces.  If you go to a site like https://www.sweetwater.com/shop/ios/,
find a device that meets your requirements and works on iOS, (in my limited
experience) it will work perfectly on Linux.

As for what I use...  I have a Roland sound module and a Korg keyboard,
both of which have USB connectivity that work for both audio and MIDI, so I
just use them as my audio interfaces for music making (using jackd).  For
other casual purposes, I let pulseaudio have its way with my computers
onboard sound card.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:12 AM, D. Michael McIntyre 
rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 My computer started flaking out after running like a top for 6-7 years,
 and I decided to use that as an excuse to replace it.  I bought my first
 ever off-the shelf, big box retail machine.  The bright side is I put
 more gigas in my hertz, and I can boot from USB sticks now.

 It has a bunch of solder plugs where the PCI slot would have gone.
 Somebody decided to save $0.39, because nobody uses PCI anymore.

 That means the old mAudio Audiophile 24/96 (ice1712/envy24) joins my
 collection of obsolete and useless soundcards, and I don't presently
 have any way of getting the audio signal from my computer to my
 amplifier, as I was using SPDIF.

 Taking a quick look around, it appears to be the age of USB audio
 dongles.  This would be a good time to look at what I'm actually likely
 to do with my setup, and come up with one neat, tidy solution to replace
 the tangled morass of random bits of kit I accumulated over the years.

 I might record from two different microphones at once.

 I might record from two different line level inputs at once.

 I need a way to monitor the mix on headphones so I don't record the mix
 as background noise on subsequent tracks.

 I need coax SPDIF output (or possibly something else, and a new
 amplifier, as this thing is kind of limping anyway)

 I'm likely to continue with Ubuntu, so if the dongle I buy needs
 firmware, it should be something readily and easily available through
 Ubuntu.

 Anyway, I thought I'd see what more modern people are using these days,
 and fish for suggestions.
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The post-PCI era

2014-10-30 Thread Abrolag
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:12:05 -0400
D. Michael McIntyre rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 My computer started flaking out after running like a top for 6-7 years, 
 and I decided to use that as an excuse to replace it.  I bought my first 
 ever off-the shelf, big box retail machine.  The bright side is I put 
 more gigas in my hertz, and I can boot from USB sticks now.
 
 It has a bunch of solder plugs where the PCI slot would have gone. 
 Somebody decided to save $0.39, because nobody uses PCI anymore.
 
 That means the old mAudio Audiophile 24/96 (ice1712/envy24) joins my 
 collection of obsolete and useless soundcards, and I don't presently 
 have any way of getting the audio signal from my computer to my 
 amplifier, as I was using SPDIF.
 
 Taking a quick look around, it appears to be the age of USB audio 
 dongles.  This would be a good time to look at what I'm actually likely 
 to do with my setup, and come up with one neat, tidy solution to replace 
 the tangled morass of random bits of kit I accumulated over the years.
 
 I might record from two different microphones at once.
 
 I might record from two different line level inputs at once.
 
 I need a way to monitor the mix on headphones so I don't record the mix 
 as background noise on subsequent tracks.
 
 I need coax SPDIF output (or possibly something else, and a new 
 amplifier, as this thing is kind of limping anyway)
 
 I'm likely to continue with Ubuntu, so if the dongle I buy needs 
 firmware, it should be something readily and easily available through 
 Ubuntu.
 
 Anyway, I thought I'd see what more modern people are using these days, 
 and fish for suggestions.

I've still got a trusty 24/96 in one of my machines, but when I go semi-mobile
I use a Komplete Audio 6. It's audio class compliant, has analogue (line and
mic), MIDI, SPDIFF and a built in headphone amp. I've had it working with an
eeePC900, an ancient AMD, and a dual core 32bit Intel.

I got it from Thomann (Germany). Their deliveries, packaging and customer
support is second to none.

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] The post-PCI era

2014-10-30 Thread Nathan Stewart
I always made sure PCI was a precondition for any motherboard I bought. But
I finally decided guitars and monitor/mouse/qwerty don't work well together
and bought a Zoom R24. I'm still working out my workflow. When writing I
tend to use the zoom drum sequencer. Right now I've imported all my tracks
into Ardour, and created an LTC track for later when I want to sync the
zoom with Ardour/Hydrogen/Rosegarden. In the meantime I just use
placeholder rhythm tracks in standalone mode. I'd do the same if I had RG
driven synth tracks, just copy a stereo bounce onto the Zoom, unplug and go
track some more.

The Zoom also does audio interface (but has no Linux driver) and Mackie
format control surface. With Linux support on that driver and native sync
capabilities the solution would totally rock. As it is its close enough for
rock n roll.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:12 AM, D. Michael McIntyre 
rosegarden.trumpe...@gmail.com wrote:

 My computer started flaking out after running like a top for 6-7 years,
 and I decided to use that as an excuse to replace it.  I bought my first
 ever off-the shelf, big box retail machine.  The bright side is I put
 more gigas in my hertz, and I can boot from USB sticks now.

 It has a bunch of solder plugs where the PCI slot would have gone.
 Somebody decided to save $0.39, because nobody uses PCI anymore.

 That means the old mAudio Audiophile 24/96 (ice1712/envy24) joins my
 collection of obsolete and useless soundcards, and I don't presently
 have any way of getting the audio signal from my computer to my
 amplifier, as I was using SPDIF.

 Taking a quick look around, it appears to be the age of USB audio
 dongles.  This would be a good time to look at what I'm actually likely
 to do with my setup, and come up with one neat, tidy solution to replace
 the tangled morass of random bits of kit I accumulated over the years.

 I might record from two different microphones at once.

 I might record from two different line level inputs at once.

 I need a way to monitor the mix on headphones so I don't record the mix
 as background noise on subsequent tracks.

 I need coax SPDIF output (or possibly something else, and a new
 amplifier, as this thing is kind of limping anyway)

 I'm likely to continue with Ubuntu, so if the dongle I buy needs
 firmware, it should be something readily and easily available through
 Ubuntu.

 Anyway, I thought I'd see what more modern people are using these days,
 and fish for suggestions.
 --
 D. Michael McIntyre


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