Re: [Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-16 Thread david
On 08/15/2016 10:33 PM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:
> Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time I really got into cinelerra, then it got harder and
>> harder to compile it as well as to import/export so I moved to kdenlive
>> (with a bit of Openshot here and there). The nice thing about kdelive is
>> that it seems to 'just' work (the drawback is that you need to install
>> half of KDE and that sucks if it's not your DE).
>> I tend to prefer video editors with tracks, maybe because I'm more used
>> to music software. Recently I tried Shotcut, and it looks like a good
>> compromise between simple interface and controls, decent presets and
>> usability.
>>
>> One last note, on Linux I think if you want to do video editing it's
>> good to always have an ffmpeg installation around for conversion etc. ;)
>>
>> My two cents.
>> Lorenzo
>
> One thing I really like about both Cinelerra and Blender is they allow one
> to use clusters of Linux boxen so one can really throw alot of "grunt" at
> rendering.  Totally agree about the use of ffmpeg for various conversions,
> especially if one's source material has various resolutions, formats, and
> frame rates.
>
> All Linux video editors (and ffmpeg) can benefit mightily from having GPU
> subsystem with several thousand cores with the proprietary AMD/ATI or
> NVidia drivers installed along with their corresponding OpenGL and OpenCL
> libraries and routines.
>
> My friends tell me Blender can do anything, except apparently be easy for
> me to learn how to use ;-)  Blender rendering services on remote "cloud"
> supercomputers is also readily available if you have the Internet speeds
> to use them (we don't in Australia with its aged copper twisted pair
> infrastructure).
>
> Hope this helpful.

I think the power and complexity of Blender is way beyond what Michael 
was looking for.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-16 Thread ram
Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

>
> Once upon a time I really got into cinelerra, then it got harder and
> harder to compile it as well as to import/export so I moved to kdenlive
> (with a bit of Openshot here and there). The nice thing about kdelive is
> that it seems to 'just' work (the drawback is that you need to install
> half of KDE and that sucks if it's not your DE).
> I tend to prefer video editors with tracks, maybe because I'm more used
> to music software. Recently I tried Shotcut, and it looks like a good
> compromise between simple interface and controls, decent presets and
> usability.
>
> One last note, on Linux I think if you want to do video editing it's
> good to always have an ffmpeg installation around for conversion etc. ;)
>
> My two cents.
> Lorenzo
>
>

One thing I really like about both Cinelerra and Blender is they allow one
to use clusters of Linux boxen so one can really throw alot of "grunt" at
rendering.  Totally agree about the use of ffmpeg for various conversions,
especially if one's source material has various resolutions, formats, and
frame rates.

All Linux video editors (and ffmpeg) can benefit mightily from having GPU
subsystem with several thousand cores with the proprietary AMD/ATI or
NVidia drivers installed along with their corresponding OpenGL and OpenCL
libraries and routines.

My friends tell me Blender can do anything, except apparently be easy for
me to learn how to use ;-)  Blender rendering services on remote "cloud"
supercomputers is also readily available if you have the Internet speeds
to use them (we don't in Australia with its aged copper twisted pair
infrastructure).

Hope this helpful.

Rich




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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-16 Thread Lorenzo Sutton


On 15/08/2016 06:55, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 08/14/2016 09:09 PM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:
>
>> Try Cinelerra (https://cinelerra-cv.org/) it may be the middle ground you
>> are looking for.
>
> Tried it.  OpenShot, Kdenlive, Pitivi, Blender, and finally Lightworks.
> With the latter two, I'm not sure if they can do the job but I am sure I
> can't use them to get the job done.  Lightworks on Linux isn't remotely
> stable anyway.
>

Once upon a time I really got into cinelerra, then it got harder and 
harder to compile it as well as to import/export so I moved to kdenlive 
(with a bit of Openshot here and there). The nice thing about kdelive is 
that it seems to 'just' work (the drawback is that you need to install 
half of KDE and that sucks if it's not your DE).
I tend to prefer video editors with tracks, maybe because I'm more used 
to music software. Recently I tried Shotcut, and it looks like a good 
compromise between simple interface and controls, decent presets and 
usability.

One last note, on Linux I think if you want to do video editing it's 
good to always have an ffmpeg installation around for conversion etc. ;)

My two cents.
Lorenzo

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-15 Thread Johan Vromans
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:19:24 -1000
David Jones  wrote:

> Kdenlive worked fine for my limited needs. And made sense to this
> non-video maker.

Kdenlive is rather intuitive (once you've got the hang of it) but it has
let me down many times by crashing or producing non-functional videos. If
it works for you, check your results and be happy.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-14 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 08/14/2016 09:09 PM, r...@hydrophones.com wrote:

> Try Cinelerra (https://cinelerra-cv.org/) it may be the middle ground you
> are looking for.

Tried it.  OpenShot, Kdenlive, Pitivi, Blender, and finally Lightworks. 
With the latter two, I'm not sure if they can do the job but I am sure I 
can't use them to get the job done.  Lightworks on Linux isn't remotely 
stable anyway.

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[Rosegarden-user] Video editing on Linux

2016-08-14 Thread ram
Hi Michael,

With respect to:

> After trying to edit my video on Linux, I have concluded it is time to
> move this project to Windows.  Video editors for Linux are either not
> sophisticated enough or too sophisticated, and there is nothing in the
> middle ground.
>

Try Cinelerra (https://cinelerra-cv.org/) it may be the middle ground you
are looking for.

Of course, video editing can be done in Blender (https://www.blender.org/)
which many of my friends use, but I've found Blender's learning curve
rather steep, almost cliff like.

OpenShot (http://www.openshot.org/) is relatively easy to use, but may not
be as full featured as you like.

As with music software there is an inherent trade-off between "easy to
use" and "full featured".

Since the vast majority of the movie industry uses Linux for video
manipulation, CGI, and editing, there are good reasons to stay with Linux
as your platform of choice.

Best regards,

Rich Marschall




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