Re: [Rosegarden-user] a duo of ethicall questions

2020-08-10 Thread David W. Jones



On August 9, 2020 11:21:37 PM HST, "D. Michael McIntyre" 
 wrote:
>As the owner of a copyright, I can say I really don't care if you steal
>my stuff, because the people who create things don't make money from 
>their creations anyway.
>
>Just don't steal anything from the Beatles. Fuck the Beatles!

Or Metallica. They do protect their stuff.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] a duo of ethicall questions

2020-08-10 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
As the owner of a copyright, I can say I really don't care if you steal 
my stuff, because the people who create things don't make money from 
their creations anyway.


Just don't steal anything from the Beatles. Fuck the Beatles!

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D. Michael McIntyre


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] a duo of ethicall questions

2020-08-09 Thread krsgrdn


Thanks for the advice. I'm in reasonably good condition except for a short list 
of life-threatening issues :-)

Brain-rot however is a real challenge, even though I had spent much of my life 
continuously learning things I simply cannot soak it up like I used to but 
learning music & Rosegarden have helped a lot, I see the results! They say we 
must learn something NEW trodding along westbound, another language for example 
is useless for someone who already speaks four, not because of the numbers but 
because of the already familiar field of knowlege. So music, midi, and general 
sound-crafting hit the spot for me. Physically I used to be able to toss a bag 
of cement a good few yards, if I tried that today my fingers would go with it, 
I don't want to get that low intellectually as well and Rosegarden has been 
like preventive vitamins and medication :-)

I never moneytize the stuff I put up on the tube, not even my own or my partly 
my own. Properly crediting usually ends up with whatever loose-change ad 
revenue going where it should (there are laughable exceptions). It's digital 
covers that I'm not sure about so I thought I'd field a question to the 
probably thousands of Rosegarden users who are much more knowlegable about this 
than I am.

That testimony is on my gotta-see list..

Cheers
   


 






On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 00:53:24 -0400
liebre...@grossmann-venter.com wrote:

> You should watch Rick Beato's senate testimony on Youtube users and 
> musical content.
> Youtube is not at fault pulling videos down and censoring it is the 
> Record Companies and such that makes up their own laws and they mostly 
> violate "Fair Use" just out of greed. That behavior have to stop.
> 
> i am not a fan of Beato, but I am glad he had the guts to go testify.
> Maybe something good comes from that, and there will be legislation to 
> stop these record companies from making money illegally out of fair use 
> such as parody and teaching.
> 
> On the other hand, dont worry about "advanced age" eat right my friend 
> that is the best advice you can ever get and stay away from franken 
> foods, restaurants, fast foods and such. If you eat organic and cast out 
> foods that disagree with you, health changes considerably and so does 
> life expectancy.
> 
> Doctors couldnt help me with my ailments, for years. It was only after 
> my daughter became a Naturopath that about all my problems disappeared. 
> I eat right now and still sift through what doesnt agree with me etc. 
> After following her advice, i have no tinitus anymore amazing!, 
> rheumatic effects in my hands that stopped me from playing disappeared, 
> strange recurrent tumors I battled with for decades disappeared etc etc.
> I have my life back and is completely healthy again.
> 
> Dont let anyone tell you food is not important. The hydrogenated oils 
> that you WILL get from restaurants or any prepared food will hurt you. 
> Eat what agrees with you and make sure it is always organic. Big 
> Agriculture aned their pesticides/chemicals is slowing killing us.
> I am living testament of that. All my decades long trouble was 
> pesticide/hydrogenated/sucrose & refined food related. I dont use any 
> sugar anymore, only organic honey...makes a huge difference.
> 
> Anyway, enough of my advice.
> All our musical contributions are necessqary on youtube etc.
> Everything helps to keep the music alive, including yours.
> Keep going.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2020-08-08 19:25, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:
> > greetings
> > 
> > First and foremost as I have just read (this time the full) 'authors'
> > and story page and can only say THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU to the Rosegarden
> > team; I mean the strife, the endless hours through lonely nights
> > mostly between day jobs, the thanklessness, you name it. My attitude
> > has always been humble and grateful but it just got upgraded quite a
> > bit. I've only done very rudimentary Perl programming a long long time
> > ago but I can imagine. So that's the first ethical issue, my 2 cents
> > says that that page should be the "I have read it all" checkbox-page
> > leading to a download.
> > 
> > I have used Rosegarden to produce (read hack and cannibalize) about 4
> > songs on guitar which I took up as a way to head off brain-rot with my
> > advancing age. I have about 500 lifetime fav songs of which maybe 40
> > are guitar candidates. With the help of Rosegarden I have already done
> > most of the 40 backing tracks with temporary stand-in digital leads of
> > one sort or another. But given the past completion-rate I will likely
> > run out of time to do all the remaining 36, I figure if I get to a
> > total of 10 I should be lucky. The guitar 'covers' I think pose no
> > ethical issues, here's the last one that took me a year just like the
> > one before it:
> > 
> >  https://tinyurl.com/y4cyeb6x
> > 
> > But what about the rest of them which are provisionally entirely
> > digital 'covers'? Does that concept exist at all? Can I load th

Re: [Rosegarden-user] a duo of ethicall questions

2020-08-08 Thread liebrecht
You should watch Rick Beato's senate testimony on Youtube users and 
musical content.
Youtube is not at fault pulling videos down and censoring it is the 
Record Companies and such that makes up their own laws and they mostly 
violate "Fair Use" just out of greed. That behavior have to stop.


i am not a fan of Beato, but I am glad he had the guts to go testify.
Maybe something good comes from that, and there will be legislation to 
stop these record companies from making money illegally out of fair use 
such as parody and teaching.


On the other hand, dont worry about "advanced age" eat right my friend 
that is the best advice you can ever get and stay away from franken 
foods, restaurants, fast foods and such. If you eat organic and cast out 
foods that disagree with you, health changes considerably and so does 
life expectancy.


Doctors couldnt help me with my ailments, for years. It was only after 
my daughter became a Naturopath that about all my problems disappeared. 
I eat right now and still sift through what doesnt agree with me etc. 
After following her advice, i have no tinitus anymore amazing!, 
rheumatic effects in my hands that stopped me from playing disappeared, 
strange recurrent tumors I battled with for decades disappeared etc etc.

I have my life back and is completely healthy again.

Dont let anyone tell you food is not important. The hydrogenated oils 
that you WILL get from restaurants or any prepared food will hurt you. 
Eat what agrees with you and make sure it is always organic. Big 
Agriculture aned their pesticides/chemicals is slowing killing us.
I am living testament of that. All my decades long trouble was 
pesticide/hydrogenated/sucrose & refined food related. I dont use any 
sugar anymore, only organic honey...makes a huge difference.


Anyway, enough of my advice.
All our musical contributions are necessqary on youtube etc.
Everything helps to keep the music alive, including yours.
Keep going.




On 2020-08-08 19:25, krsg...@trixtar.org wrote:

greetings

First and foremost as I have just read (this time the full) 'authors'
and story page and can only say THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU to the Rosegarden
team; I mean the strife, the endless hours through lonely nights
mostly between day jobs, the thanklessness, you name it. My attitude
has always been humble and grateful but it just got upgraded quite a
bit. I've only done very rudimentary Perl programming a long long time
ago but I can imagine. So that's the first ethical issue, my 2 cents
says that that page should be the "I have read it all" checkbox-page
leading to a download.

I have used Rosegarden to produce (read hack and cannibalize) about 4
songs on guitar which I took up as a way to head off brain-rot with my
advancing age. I have about 500 lifetime fav songs of which maybe 40
are guitar candidates. With the help of Rosegarden I have already done
most of the 40 backing tracks with temporary stand-in digital leads of
one sort or another. But given the past completion-rate I will likely
run out of time to do all the remaining 36, I figure if I get to a
total of 10 I should be lucky. The guitar 'covers' I think pose no
ethical issues, here's the last one that took me a year just like the
one before it:

 https://tinyurl.com/y4cyeb6x

But what about the rest of them which are provisionally entirely
digital 'covers'? Does that concept exist at all? Can I load them up
on the tube as digital covers pending some future guitar overlay?
Doing music is as much work as coding and I wouldn't wanna screw any
copyright musician out of deserved dues. I have learned *a LOT* just
from tinkering around with Rosegarden, this digital jobbie for
instance has some twists in the bass handling (don't know if anyone
will catch it) and I think it's a splashy sounding nice rework of the
french original so I'd like to share it but without stepping on toes:

 https://tinyurl.com/yxocsu4e
 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxocsu4e

Tnaks in advance for all pro/con ideas




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[Rosegarden-user] a duo of ethicall questions

2020-08-08 Thread krsgrdn
greetings

First and foremost as I have just read (this time the full) 'authors' and story 
page and can only say THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU to the Rosegarden team; I mean the 
strife, the endless hours through lonely nights mostly between day jobs, the 
thanklessness, you name it. My attitude has always been humble and grateful but 
it just got upgraded quite a bit. I've only done very rudimentary Perl 
programming a long long time ago but I can imagine. So that's the first ethical 
issue, my 2 cents says that that page should be the "I have read it all" 
checkbox-page leading to a download.

I have used Rosegarden to produce (read hack and cannibalize) about 4 songs on 
guitar which I took up as a way to head off brain-rot with my advancing age. I 
have about 500 lifetime fav songs of which maybe 40 are guitar candidates. With 
the help of Rosegarden I have already done most of the 40 backing tracks with 
temporary stand-in digital leads of one sort or another. But given the past 
completion-rate I will likely run out of time to do all the remaining 36, I 
figure if I get to a total of 10 I should be lucky. The guitar 'covers' I think 
pose no ethical issues, here's the last one that took me a year just like the 
one before it:

 https://tinyurl.com/y4cyeb6x

But what about the rest of them which are provisionally entirely digital 
'covers'? Does that concept exist at all? Can I load them up on the tube as 
digital covers pending some future guitar overlay? Doing music is as much work 
as coding and I wouldn't wanna screw any copyright musician out of deserved 
dues. I have learned *a LOT* just from tinkering around with Rosegarden, this 
digital jobbie for instance has some twists in the bass handling (don't know if 
anyone will catch it) and I think it's a splashy sounding nice rework of the 
french original so I'd like to share it but without stepping on toes:

 https://tinyurl.com/yxocsu4e
 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxocsu4e

Tnaks in advance for all pro/con ideas








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