Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/23/19 9:03 PM, david wrote: Oh, I like the Tangerine Skies one. How long does it take to start producing flowers? Damn if I know. I'll let you know when it does. :-D -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 15:03:08 -1000 david wrote: >On 3/23/19 1:51 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> Speaking of the redesign, are you planning to go in a different >> direction with the splash screen? I tried to do a new one for every >> major new feature release, and all of them for years were different >> photos of the same rose. There have been no new splash screens in a >> long time, because that rose declined and died after 20 years. >> >> I finally tracked down what variety it was, and my eye fell on a >> different, very complementary variety, so I bought a couple of those >> too. I put a lot of love into preparing the ground, and I'll get the >> last of them planted tomorrow. There are four in all, with some new >> decorative support appliances, and I'm hoping for new rose pictures on >> the horizon. >> >> If anyone is curious, it's these two: >> >> https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25310/Autumn+Sunset+Hardy+Climbing+Rose >> https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25643/Tangerine+Skies+Climbing+Rose > >Oh, I like the Tangerine Skies one. How long does it take to start >producing flowers? > Same here :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/20/19 2:51 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 20/03/19 13:45, Ted Felix wrote: On 3/15/19 10:24 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: What would it look like inverted (i.e. white / transparent background) and coloured rose (but please remember the yellow/orange... :P ) I was wondering that myself. Don't think I can do it properly, though, the way I'm just fiddling with it in the GIMP. I'll certainly talk to her about this and show her the app icons in GNOME/Ubuntu. I think you'd need the source, e.g. SVG if done in Inkscape? Sorry, not an inverted version of the proposed new design. But here's my basic version of an SVG based on an enhanced version of the original photo: http://clanjones.org/rosegardenicon/rosegarden-originalphoto-revision-icon.svg I test it as an icon by setting up a launcher in XFCE that would just run ls (so it does nothing when clicked) and uses the SVG to appear on the task bar. A real graphic artist could make it better, I just twiddled some of the trace settings in Inkscape until I got something that was OK with me. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/23/19 1:51 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Speaking of the redesign, are you planning to go in a different direction with the splash screen? I tried to do a new one for every major new feature release, and all of them for years were different photos of the same rose. There have been no new splash screens in a long time, because that rose declined and died after 20 years. I finally tracked down what variety it was, and my eye fell on a different, very complementary variety, so I bought a couple of those too. I put a lot of love into preparing the ground, and I'll get the last of them planted tomorrow. There are four in all, with some new decorative support appliances, and I'm hoping for new rose pictures on the horizon. If anyone is curious, it's these two: https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25310/Autumn+Sunset+Hardy+Climbing+Rose https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25643/Tangerine+Skies+Climbing+Rose Oh, I like the Tangerine Skies one. How long does it take to start producing flowers? -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
Speaking of the redesign, are you planning to go in a different direction with the splash screen? I tried to do a new one for every major new feature release, and all of them for years were different photos of the same rose. There have been no new splash screens in a long time, because that rose declined and died after 20 years. I finally tracked down what variety it was, and my eye fell on a different, very complementary variety, so I bought a couple of those too. I put a lot of love into preparing the ground, and I'll get the last of them planted tomorrow. There are four in all, with some new decorative support appliances, and I'm hoping for new rose pictures on the horizon. If anyone is curious, it's these two: https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25310/Autumn+Sunset+Hardy+Climbing+Rose https://www.edmundsroses.com/P/25643/Tangerine+Skies+Climbing+Rose -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/15/19 10:24 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: What would it look like inverted (i.e. white / transparent background) and coloured rose (but please remember the yellow/orange... :P ) I was wondering that myself. Don't think I can do it properly, though, the way I'm just fiddling with it in the GIMP. I'll certainly talk to her about this and show her the app icons in GNOME/Ubuntu. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/16/19 2:02 PM, Chris Cannam wrote: Website could do with a redesign too, not to mention tightening up the content... Website redesign is also planned. Not sure she'll get to it, but it's on her mind. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/16/19 8:02 AM, Chris Cannam wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, at 06:49, david wrote: Where's the original rose photo? Might be fun to see about SVGing it myself. See https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/mailman/message/36401431/ (there is an attachment link). Thanks. Nabbed it. Nobody should listen to me, but I will say that I'm totally fine with changing the logo. If it makes active developers and users feel a happy sense of ownership then that's a jolly good thing. I quite like the proposed one as it happens, but again, don't listen to me. Once I heard it described as an elephant, and see the elephant, not so much a fan of it. Website could do with a redesign too, not to mention tightening up the content... Not to mention an update edition of Michael's book! -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, at 06:49, david wrote: > Where's the original rose photo? Might be fun to see about SVGing it myself. See https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/mailman/message/36401431/ (there is an attachment link). Nobody should listen to me, but I will say that I'm totally fine with changing the logo. If it makes active developers and users feel a happy sense of ownership then that's a jolly good thing. I quite like the proposed one as it happens, but again, don't listen to me. Website could do with a redesign too, not to mention tightening up the content... Chris ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
Hi all, I'd like to see what David W. Jones comes up with. Traditionally "old" but "new" probably would be the way to go. Rich > On 3/15/19 4:24 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> On 15/03/19 14:40, Ted Felix wrote: >>> On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) >>> >>> Â Â I added a tile mockup to the wiki page: >>> >>> https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo >>> >> >> What would it look like inverted (i.e. white / transparent background) >> and coloured rose (but please remember the yellow/orange... :P ) >> >> That might also address some of the concerns of people who see a too >> drastic change... After all the current icon is on a transparent >> background and thus this way we could keep it a bit more familiar.. > > Looking at it and the existing logo here on my laptop. The text logo is > fine. The red elephant "g" doesn't do it for me. The rose tile looks > fine, but I don't like the "g" anymore. > > Where's the original rose photo? Might be fun to see about SVGing it > myself. > > -- > David W. Jones > gn...@hawaii.rr.com > authenticity, honesty, community > http://dancingtreefrog.com > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/15/19 4:24 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: On 15/03/19 14:40, Ted Felix wrote: On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) I added a tile mockup to the wiki page: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo What would it look like inverted (i.e. white / transparent background) and coloured rose (but please remember the yellow/orange... :P ) That might also address some of the concerns of people who see a too drastic change... After all the current icon is on a transparent background and thus this way we could keep it a bit more familiar.. Looking at it and the existing logo here on my laptop. The text logo is fine. The red elephant "g" doesn't do it for me. The rose tile looks fine, but I don't like the "g" anymore. Where's the original rose photo? Might be fun to see about SVGing it myself. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
> On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which >> would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) > >I was thinking that too. Not sure the "g" should be so prominent. > However... Elephant! > >> About the colour.. wondering if some reference to the old logo (yellow, >> orange tones) could remain. > >Of course. I'll register your vote for this. > > Ted. > Yeah, I feel the same way. So I'll second that! Rich > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 15/03/19 14:40, Ted Felix wrote: On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) I added a tile mockup to the wiki page: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo What would it look like inverted (i.e. white / transparent background) and coloured rose (but please remember the yellow/orange... :P ) That might also address some of the concerns of people who see a too drastic change... After all the current icon is on a transparent background and thus this way we could keep it a bit more familiar.. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
I saw a giant g very similar to the proposed icon on the side of a Canadian trailer, and was briefly nauseous. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) I added a tile mockup to the wiki page: https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/14/19 2:56 PM, Dave Serls wrote: I can be as arbitrary and idiotic as the next fellow. Enlarge the elephant "G" a couple of font sizes and fill with pastel green. Ha! Good stuff. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/14/19 3:40 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) I was thinking that too. Not sure the "g" should be so prominent. However... Elephant! About the colour.. wondering if some reference to the old logo (yellow, orange tones) could remain. Of course. I'll register your vote for this. Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/14/19 1:37 AM, Sami Jumppanen wrote: My first reaction was "India, elephant!". She loves elephants, so you may be on to something here... Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
Adding my observations from the world and logos: display DPI has gone up. The old 3D controls (mainly speaking wrt Windows OS) have lost their edge. UI and logo designs are reaching for clarity - like always, but the competition and display technology are certainly some of the modern driving factors. The old yellow rose is nearly blending on the light grey menu background on my display. Admitting my displays are maybe a yard away (!) from optimal and bit on the smaller side, but the mixing console takes its toll :) So I welcome darker colours with sharper edges. Not that I couldn't find RG from the menu now. And I will not go comparing the old vs. new. The old is truly beautiful, I just don't feel it should be kept for historical reasons. Or, put it another way: if the project lead wants to change it, I don't have anything against it. I do value getting different opinions here though. Sami ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On March 14, 2019 8:56:10 AM HST, Dave Serls wrote: > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:22:06 -0400 > Ted Felix wrote: > > >I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's > one > > of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. > > > >https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo > > > > Ted. > > I can be as arbitrary and idiotic as the next fellow. > Enlarge the elephant "G" a couple of font sizes and fill with pastel > green. I like that idea. Or leave it red and add pastel green background. I like this logo design idea. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 3/14/19 3:38 AM, Will Godfrey wrote: Personally I'm never really keen on logo changes. People come to recognise them and automatically associate them with the product/experience. If a change is needed, it's much better to make it a fairly gradual transition. The GIMP changed their logo from the gimp head thing to something else, and for the longest time I couldn't remember which icon started the thing. The original font was selected by Chris Cannam back in the day. I tried to change it when we did the huge rewrite, and in the end it was easier not to change it than to find something new everybody liked. If you want to get a rise out of Mr. Cannam, just say the word Bauhaus. The original logo is a photo Richard Bown took in Hyde Park, and it's very, um, iconic. I was just thinking about the best way to make an SVG version that captures the feeling in a form that will scale up with desktop resolution. I tried making a suitable replacement many times over the years, and we still have his original photo. The guy doing the work gets to do whatever he wants, and Ted is keeping this project alive. This project has definitely been held back by giving too much in service to tradition over the years. On the other hand, I tried taking the totally opposite approach of blowing up tradition and letting people try radical new ideas, and some of the ideas seem too radical in retrospect. As a matter of personal opinion, I can't say I care for the new look. I don't expect my opinion to carry much weight, because I haven't really done anything around here in years, but there is my opinion anyway. This one is a good example. I don't see anything in it that reminds me of the Rosegarden I've been familiar with for many years. I fully agree with Will. That is not a subtle change. It doesn't say "Rosegarden" to me at all. -- D. Michael McIntyre ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:22:06 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: >I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's one > of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. > >https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo > > Ted. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user I can be as arbitrary and idiotic as the next fellow. Enlarge the elephant "G" a couple of font sizes and fill with pastel green. -- * Dave Serls Littleton, CO, USA * * dashs.denver.co.us http://www.dashs.com* ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On 14/03/19 06:22, Ted Felix wrote: I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's one of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. Cool! https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo Looks good... I guess a 'square' concept, i.e. without the text which would be used for icons etc. would be useful ;) About the colour.. wondering if some reference to the old logo (yellow, orange tones) could remain. I always liked (and became accustomed) to these 'warm' colour combinations in Rosegarden - but that's just my personal taste and I understand that many designers prefer monochrome logos designs these days :) Lorenzo. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:22:06 -0400 Ted Felix wrote: > I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's one >of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. > > https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo > >Ted. Personally I'm never really keen on logo changes. People come to recognise them and automatically associate them with the product/experience. If a change is needed, it's much better to make it a fairly gradual transition. This one is a good example. I don't see anything in it that reminds me of the Rosegarden I've been familiar with for many years. The only time I've thought such a radical change was appropriate was an engineering company that was actually moving out of one field into another. Just my 2d - old money see :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
Hi, looks interesting. My first reaction was "India, elephant!". Then I see the spike and all :) Elephant is positive, friendly, good memory, strong. India refers to deeper understanding and mental stability. But this is just my first look and my own analysis. Need to give it more looks during a few days to see more. to 14. maalisk. 2019 klo 7.24 Ted Felix kirjoitti: >I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's one > of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. > >https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo > > Ted. > > > ___ > Rosegarden-user mailing list > Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user > ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] New Rosegarden Logo
I've got a graphic designer working on a new logo for us. Here's one of her ideas. Let me know what you all think. https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo Ted. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
