Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/03/2018 10:32 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: It does appear that the USB port on the venom is not for MIDI. I connected my computer via USB to a Behringer UMC404HD Audio Interface and the UMC4040HD to the Venom with a MIDI cable. I got it to work. It looks like the ALSA support was sketchy. That is commonly the case with that manufacturer's products. Was the bad rdg file because it was double zipped? I seem to remember reading something about that somewhere. Apparently it was a known issue to someone somewhere. It was. Ted Felix figured out the trouble and fixed it. It's crazy that this has been a known issue for some untold amount of time, and nobody ever mentioned it to me. I used that rdg file to create a reabank file. My son in law loves Reaper. So that file also is here: I can't argue with your son-in-law. ALSA doesn't support my audio interface, so I had to get a Windows box, and I ended up settling on Reaper myself. It's an amazing piece of software. It doesn't really compete with Rosegarden, so I don't feel guilty for admitting how much I like it. I have a Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 with a Scarlett Octo-Pre and a bunch of Sennheiser e604s, a couple of e614s, a couple of e602s, and some Sure SM57s. It's kind of amazing that some truck driver who can barely play drums has audio gear like this. I finally got sick of making do and just threw money at the problem. Or credit, rather. Hey, I'll have everything paid off when I'm 76 years old, so it's all good. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 9/3/18 5:42 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On 09/01/2018 06:44 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: I have downloaded a rdg file and placed it in ./.local/share/rosegarden/library/M-Audio-Venom.rgd Where did the file come from? I see we ship Rosegarden with a file by this name, but I tried looking through it to see who created it, and discovered that it's totally corrupt gibberish. Going all the way back to the file's beginning, it has been garbage since day one. The only info I have about it that offers a clue who to contact is "Gary G." Well, that's a dead end. It sounds like there's a better version of M-Audio-Venom.rgd out there, and I should update our repository. In any case, since finding the author of the .rgd file turned out to be a dead end, all I can suggest is that somebody in 2012 reported joy connecting to a Venom using a standard MIDI cable instead of USB. He used a dedicated USB MIDI interface to make the connection. It looks like support for the Venom was always patchy, if it ever worked at all, and it looks like the hardware was discontinued and abandoned by the manufacturer years ago, so ALSA never got proper support for it going. That's what it looks like at a casual glance anyway. I didn't do a deep dive. That seems to be it! I had my son in law come over and help me out. He has a degree in music and knows what he's talking about. Very much the way I don't. It does appear that the USB port on the venom is not for MIDI. I connected my computer via USB to a Behringer UMC404HD Audio Interface and the UMC4040HD to the Venom with a MIDI cable. I got it to work. Was the bad rdg file because it was double zipped? I seem to remember reading something about that somewhere. Apparently it was a known issue to someone somewhere. For your convenience, I have put the rdg file I'm using here: http://kaptain.us/tmp/M-Audio-Venom.rgd I used that rdg file to create a reabank file. My son in law loves Reaper. So that file also is here: http://kaptain.us/tmp/M-Audio-Venom.reabank Anyway this issue is SOLVED! Thank you so much for your time and attention! I'm going to go write some music now. DK -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/01/2018 06:44 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Using the Matrix Editor I put some notes into track 1. You should also hear those notes as you place them. They get sent out via MIDI. When I click play I'm greeted by silence. I do not see any lights flickering on the Venom to indicate that it is receiving MIDI events. The only thought that comes to my mind is that the keyboard might be confused by the bank select that was sent. I skimmed the Venom manuals briefly, and while I found mention of the program names, I didn't see bank select values for the banks. So, I'm not sure where the bank select values in the .rgd came from. I have read over the Venom manual. It talks about global settings for Local and MIDI Out. I have tried all 4 possible combinations without luck. Local is usually off, but that will have no effect on your test case. Neither should the MIDI OUT setting. This is probably a simple thing that I misunderstand or am simply overlooking. One thing to try is recording from the keyboard. Can you hit record, press some keys on the keyboard and see something being recorded? You'll want to make sure the MIDI input device is set up on the Manage MIDI Devices dialog. Then you might need to try the two MIDI OUT settings on the keyboard. "MIDI OUT USB" seems like the obvious one. It does look like the Venom is rather problematic from the reviews on Amazon. Ted. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/03/2018 08:04 PM, Ted Felix wrote: It appears to have been double-gzipped. Should now be fixed in r15344. H... AccessVirus.rgd is not double gzipped, it's just empty as far as I can tell. I found and fixed two other ones and committed the result. I recovered the original AccessVirus.rgd intact, but I need to go through the ages and tweak it to modern standards, minus whatever I did to corrupt it at the end. I'll do that later. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/03/2018 08:04 PM, Ted Felix wrote: It appears to have been double-gzipped. Should now be fixed in r15344. Wow, I'm talented folks. I wonder how I managed to pull that off? -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/03/2018 06:42 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On 09/01/2018 06:44 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: I have downloaded a rdg file and placed it in ./.local/share/rosegarden/library/M-Audio-Venom.rgd Where did the file come from? I see we ship Rosegarden with a file by this name, but I tried looking through it to see who created it, and discovered that it's totally corrupt gibberish. It appears to have been double-gzipped. Should now be fixed in r15344. Ted. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
On 09/01/2018 06:44 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: I have downloaded a rdg file and placed it in ./.local/share/rosegarden/library/M-Audio-Venom.rgd Where did the file come from? I see we ship Rosegarden with a file by this name, but I tried looking through it to see who created it, and discovered that it's totally corrupt gibberish. Going all the way back to the file's beginning, it has been garbage since day one. The only info I have about it that offers a clue who to contact is "Gary G." Well, that's a dead end. It sounds like there's a better version of M-Audio-Venom.rgd out there, and I should update our repository. In any case, since finding the author of the .rgd file turned out to be a dead end, all I can suggest is that somebody in 2012 reported joy connecting to a Venom using a standard MIDI cable instead of USB. He used a dedicated USB MIDI interface to make the connection. It looks like support for the Venom was always patchy, if it ever worked at all, and it looks like the hardware was discontinued and abandoned by the manufacturer years ago, so ALSA never got proper support for it going. That's what it looks like at a casual glance anyway. I didn't do a deep dive. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden vs. M-Audio Venom
Hello. I have a M-Audio Venom that I have been trying to get to work with Rosegarden for some time now. Over 2 years off and on. When I play the Venom all by itself it works fine. My goal is to create tracks in Rosegarden and have Rosegarden play my M-Audio Venom. Here's what I do: I connect my Venom to the USB port on my computer and turn on the Venom. I have the Venom audio output connected to an amplifier same as I always do. Then I start Rosegarden. I have downloaded a rdg file and placed it in ./.local/share/rosegarden/library/M-Audio-Venom.rgd I go to Studio->Manage Midi Devices, it sees the Venom as: Available outputs: 20:0 Venom MIDI 1 (duplex) - 20:1 Venom MIDI 2 (duplex) Available inputs: 20:0 Venom MIDI 1 (duplex) - 20:1 Venom MIDI 2 (duplex) MIDI Playback says Rosegarden playback device: Venom Sends its data through 20:0 Venom MIDI 1 (duplex) From there in MIDI Playback->Banks I import the M-Audio-Venom.rgd Now in Manage MIDI Banks and Programs I can now see all the banks that are in my Venom. Back in the main Rosegarden window, I select track 1. In Track Parameters I choose Device: Venom, Instrument: #1 (Venomous Bass) In Instrument Parameters I select Bank: Single Bank A, Program: 1. Venomous Bass, Channel: Fixed So far so good! Using the Matrix Editor I put some notes into track 1. When I click play I'm greeted by silence. I do not see any lights flickering on the Venom to indicate that it is receiving MIDI events. I have read over the Venom manual. It talks about global settings for Local and MIDI Out. I have tried all 4 possible combinations without luck. This is probably a simple thing that I misunderstand or am simply overlooking. Can anyone here fill me in on the missing link(s)? Thanks! DK -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
