Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread david

On 5/23/20 2:17 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

Hi Ted,

On 23/05/2020 03:02, Ted Felix wrote:
   Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the 
wiki. Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the 
top.  Then let me know what you think. 


I like (in order of preference):

1. with transparent background, maybe trying to tweak the 
'yellow/orange' point to remind a bit more of the the current icon (on 
my screen it looks a bit more towards a brown than a red/pink). I 
don't really mind about missing 'musical reference' as Rosegarden is 
established as a name for a musical app (at least in the connoisseurs' 
circle :-)


#1's OK. I like #5 much better. Transparent against the default Ubuntu 
background looks OK. Against backgrounds I use - rotating photos that 
I've taken or graphics that I like - would just make it hide more 
effectively. I usually start Rosegarden from icons on the XFCE tool bar 
I set up at the bottom of the screen. Those icons are rather small.


5. is fun, but would do a test making the leaf smaller and rotating 
the piano (anti)clockwise (so that it hints to the matrix editor) :-P


No. Keyboards aren't oriented sideways. When you're playing one, they're 
horizontally laid out in front of you.


I have no use whatever for the matrix editor, so see no need to stress 
it. I understand what they are, they're just a great big barrier. One 
thing that sets Rosegarden apart (for me) from other sequencers is that 
you're not stuck with a matrix editor.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread rhkramer
Ted -- this is the one that didn't make it, it seems Reply went to the author 
instead of the list -- I should watch for that.

On Friday, May 22, 2020 10:58:05 PM david wrote:
> On 5/22/20 3:02 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
> > Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
> > Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top. 
> > Then let me know what you think.  We can discuss here on the list or
> > send me an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.
> > 
> >   https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo

I find people that don't like top posting, others don't like bottom posting, so 
I took this opportunity to "middle post" ;-)

From the peanut gallery:

Of those shown, I like #1 the best (oh, I've finally learned what people mean 
when they say hashtag -- to me, that #1 is "number 1", not "hashtag 1" ;-)

In contrast to David's comments, I don't like #5 -- I like the keyboard, and 
might like #1 better if it incorporated a keyboard.

Something in your post, or David's comments gave me a mindset that the icon 
should include a rose -- I don't know if that is really appropriate / 
required, but nothing in #5 looks like a rose to me.

#9 has some appeal to me, I like the roses, but something about it isn't quite 
appealing -- maybe I'd like it better if the stems were under the roses rather 
than on top, and maybe triplets with different notes (i.e., the roses not all 
in a line but staggered (or ascending or descending).


> Thanks for sharing!
> 
> Opinions by option number:
> 
>  1. I like this. Clearly a rose, with the stem curling around. Doesn't
> say anything about music, though. I like #5 better.
>  2. Looks OK. The square frame looks like a frame rather than a rose
> stem, if it's intended to look like a rose stem.
>  3. Looks like 3 tulips to me, not roses. So far, I prefer the
> single-rose designs. With or without a solid background.
>  4. NO, just no. Not roses, looks like bars or some completely-different
> flower.
>  5. Interesting! Kind of an abstracted or deconstructed rose that I
> recognized right off. Adding the piano keys shows that it's a music
> program. I like this one best so far.
>  6. NO, no, no. Yuck. Not even close to a rose, nothing about music in it.
>  7. Abstracted geometric rose that seems to me to be more of a Star of
> David. Doesn't say "rose" or Rosegarden to me.
>  8. Even more abstracted "rose" that doesn't communicate rose,
> Rosegarden, or music to me.
>  9. Cute, but just, no. A couple of rosebuds, has music notes, but the
> music notes don't look particularly good to me.
> 
> I like #5 so much I just might screen grab it and use it for my
> Rosegarden icon here. Are the source files (preferably SVG) available?
> 
> PS: You're the first person I've ever met that uses Ubuntu's desktop,
> particularly the Gnome3 version. ;)
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Chris Cannam
I rather liked the geometrical ones (6, 7, 8) that everyone else seems so 
averse to!

I do agree that 1 is quite likeable though. I didn't go for 2, 3, 4, or 9 for 
one reason or another.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Michael Gerdau
I’m impressed by the shear amount of variety you were able to produce!!!

That having said:
#1 is leading by a comfortable margin 

Kind regards,
Michael 

Mobil gesendet

> Am 23.05.2020 um 17:43 schrieb Yves Guillemot :
> 
> Le 22 mai 2020 à 21H02 (-0400)
> Ted Felix  a écrit :
> 
>>   Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the
>> wiki. Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the
>> top.  Then let me know what you think.  
> 
> I like 1 and 7, but I clearly prefer number 1.
> 
> Yves
> 
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Yves Guillemot
Le 22 mai 2020 à 21H02 (-0400)
Ted Felix  a écrit :

>Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the
> wiki. Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the
> top.  Then let me know what you think.  

I like 1 and 7, but I clearly prefer number 1.

Yves


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread D. Michael McIntyre

I prefer 1 by a wide margin.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi Ted,

On 23/05/2020 03:02, Ted Felix wrote:
   Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki. 
Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top.  Then 
let me know what you think. 


I like (in order of preference):

1. with transparent background, maybe trying to tweak the 
'yellow/orange' point to remind a bit more of the the current icon (on 
my screen it looks a bit more towards a brown than a red/pink). I don't 
really mind about missing 'musical reference' as Rosegarden is 
established as a name for a musical app (at least in the connoisseurs' 
circle :-)


5. is fun, but would do a test making the leaf smaller and rotating the 
piano (anti)clockwise (so that it hints to the matrix editor) :-P


My two cents.
Lorenzo


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread MST


To me, only variation 1 and 5 are acceptable :-)
Variation 5 is my favorite but preferably with the yellow-orange colour as it 
always had.
 
 

Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Mai 2020 um 03:02 Uhr
Von: "Ted Felix" 
An: "rosegarden-user" 
Betreff: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon
Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top. Then
let me know what you think. We can discuss here on the list or send me
an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.

https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo

Ted.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread MST
To me, only variation 1 and 5 are acceptable :-)

Variation 5 is my favorite but preferably with the yellow-orange colour as it always had.

 
 

Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Mai 2020 um 03:02 Uhr
Von: "Ted Felix" 
An: "rosegarden-user" 
Betreff: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top. Then
let me know what you think. We can discuss here on the list or send me
an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.

https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo

Ted.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-23 Thread Will Godfrey
Hi Ted,

The only one that works for me is number 1 (transparent background), but then
I'm an old Luddite who finds familiarity more important than representation
accuracy :p

Thanks for asking us.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-22 Thread rhkramer
Ok, another comment about #9 (added to my previous comment about maybe 
inverting the whole thing, showing triplets (or 3 notes, maybe an eighth and 
two sixteenths and maybe staggered, ascending, or descending.

I guess I don't like the circular "buds" behind (well, currently above) the 
red roses -- I wonder what it would look like without those.

Maybe ascending, with 2 sixteenths followed by an eighth, with the stems 
underneath and a sloped "bar" (not sure of the right word for that).

Like David said, thanks for sharing (or asking for opinions)!

On Saturday, May 23, 2020 12:03:43 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Top posting for variety -- not really -- this is a general comment without
> specifics. ;-)


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-22 Thread rhkramer
Top posting for variety -- not really -- this is a general comment without 
specifics. ;-)

I just realized that the icons are shown both in the upper left corner (large) 
and icon sized down in the group of icons -- I didn't really notice / look at 
those at first, and may change my opinion after spending some time looking at 
the small icons.

I always have a light background vs. a dark background, I guess I'll want to 
think about that, also.

On Friday, May 22, 2020 11:56:26 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 22, 2020 10:58:05 PM david wrote:
> > On 5/22/20 3:02 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
> > > Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
> > > Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top.
> > > Then let me know what you think.  We can discuss here on the list or
> > > send me an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-22 Thread ram
I like option 1 best.  If the stem was bent differently then it could look
like clef, which would then suggest music.

Stay safe, and best regards,

Rich




> On 5/22/20 3:02 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top. 
Then let me know what you think.  We can discuss here on the list or
send me an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.
>>
>>   https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo
>>
>> Ted.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Opinions by option number:
>
>  1. I like this. Clearly a rose, with the stem curling around. Doesn't
> say anything about music, though. I like #5 better.
>  2. Looks OK. The square frame looks like a frame rather than a rose
> stem, if it's intended to look like a rose stem.
>  3. Looks like 3 tulips to me, not roses. So far, I prefer the
> single-rose designs. With or without a solid background.
>  4. NO, just no. Not roses, looks like bars or some completely-different
> flower.
>  5. Interesting! Kind of an abstracted or deconstructed rose that I
> recognized right off. Adding the piano keys shows that it's a music
program. I like this one best so far.
>  6. NO, no, no. Yuck. Not even close to a rose, nothing about music in
it. 7. Abstracted geometric rose that seems to me to be more of a Star
of
> David. Doesn't say "rose" or Rosegarden to me.
>  8. Even more abstracted "rose" that doesn't communicate rose,
> Rosegarden, or music to me.
>  9. Cute, but just, no. A couple of rosebuds, has music notes, but the
> music notes don't look particularly good to me.
>
> I like #5 so much I just might screen grab it and use it for my
> Rosegarden icon here. Are the source files (preferably SVG) available?
>
> PS: You're the first person I've ever met that uses Ubuntu's desktop,
particularly the Gnome3 version. ;)
>
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-22 Thread ram
I like option 1 best.  If the stem was bent differently then it could look
like clef, which would then suggest music.

Stay safe, and best regards,

Rich




> On 5/22/20 3:02 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
>> Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki.
>> Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top. 
>> Then let me know what you think.  We can discuss here on the list or
>> send me an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.
>>
>>   https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo
>>
>> Ted.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Opinions by option number:
>
>  1. I like this. Clearly a rose, with the stem curling around. Doesn't
> say anything about music, though. I like #5 better.
>  2. Looks OK. The square frame looks like a frame rather than a rose
> stem, if it's intended to look like a rose stem.
>  3. Looks like 3 tulips to me, not roses. So far, I prefer the
> single-rose designs. With or without a solid background.
>  4. NO, just no. Not roses, looks like bars or some completely-different
> flower.
>  5. Interesting! Kind of an abstracted or deconstructed rose that I
> recognized right off. Adding the piano keys shows that it's a music
> program. I like this one best so far.
>  6. NO, no, no. Yuck. Not even close to a rose, nothing about music in it.
>  7. Abstracted geometric rose that seems to me to be more of a Star of
> David. Doesn't say "rose" or Rosegarden to me.
>  8. Even more abstracted "rose" that doesn't communicate rose,
> Rosegarden, or music to me.
>  9. Cute, but just, no. A couple of rosebuds, has music notes, but the
> music notes don't look particularly good to me.
>
> I like #5 so much I just might screen grab it and use it for my
> Rosegarden icon here. Are the source files (preferably SVG) available?
>
> PS: You're the first person I've ever met that uses Ubuntu's desktop,
> particularly the Gnome3 version. ;)
>
> --
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden App Icon

2020-05-22 Thread david

On 5/22/20 3:02 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
Just posted some new ideas for the rosegarden app icon on the wiki. 
Head over to the logo page and have a look at the pdf at the top.  
Then let me know what you think.  We can discuss here on the list or 
send me an email directly if you prefer a silent ballot.


  https://www.rosegardenmusic.com/wiki/rosegarden_logo

Ted.


Thanks for sharing!

Opinions by option number:

1. I like this. Clearly a rose, with the stem curling around. Doesn't
   say anything about music, though. I like #5 better.
2. Looks OK. The square frame looks like a frame rather than a rose
   stem, if it's intended to look like a rose stem.
3. Looks like 3 tulips to me, not roses. So far, I prefer the
   single-rose designs. With or without a solid background.
4. NO, just no. Not roses, looks like bars or some completely-different
   flower.
5. Interesting! Kind of an abstracted or deconstructed rose that I
   recognized right off. Adding the piano keys shows that it's a music
   program. I like this one best so far.
6. NO, no, no. Yuck. Not even close to a rose, nothing about music in it.
7. Abstracted geometric rose that seems to me to be more of a Star of
   David. Doesn't say "rose" or Rosegarden to me.
8. Even more abstracted "rose" that doesn't communicate rose,
   Rosegarden, or music to me.
9. Cute, but just, no. A couple of rosebuds, has music notes, but the
   music notes don't look particularly good to me.

I like #5 so much I just might screen grab it and use it for my 
Rosegarden icon here. Are the source files (preferably SVG) available?


PS: You're the first person I've ever met that uses Ubuntu's desktop, 
particularly the Gnome3 version. ;)


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