Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2022-01-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:42 AM Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > Chris, apologies for the late reply. > > On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 13:02 -0500, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 17:08 +0100, Daniel Mach wrote: > > > > > > I

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2022-01-11 Thread Lukáš Hrázký
Chris, apologies for the late reply. On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 13:02 -0500, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 17:08 +0100, Daniel Mach wrote: > > > > I understand your point about auditing, but does DNF have to handle > > >

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2022-01-03 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Colin Walters: > [...] >> What I *did* wake up one day and say I'm going to do is make upgrades >> transactional and offline by default and hence safe. No one should >> ever fear starting an operating system upgrade while their laptop is >> at 30% battery.

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-20 Thread Florian Weimer
* Colin Walters: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Chris Murphy: >> >>> Fedora 36 seems like a good time to do this. What do you think? >> >> It's a bit odd to locate a database under /usr that isn't pre-built and >> installed. > > Why is that odd? Mentally, I

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Chris Murphy: > >> Fedora 36 seems like a good time to do this. What do you think? > > It's a bit odd to locate a database under /usr that isn't pre-built and > installed. Why is that odd? > I guess in theory there could be

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:09 AM Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 13:53 -0500, Chris Murphy wrote: > > For my non-emphemeral systems: > > > > * /usr /var /etc are directories contained in btrfs subvolume > > "root-x86-64:fedora.35" > > * read-only snapshots have an ISO 8601 datetime

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 17:08 +0100, Daniel Mach wrote: > > I understand your point about auditing, but does DNF have to handle > > everything? > > There should be better options of tracking filesystem rollbacks than > > DNF's history

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-13 Thread Lukáš Hrázký
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 13:53 -0500, Chris Murphy wrote: > { > Apologies for not sending to rpm-ecosystem@ first off [1], then b. > since I wasn't subscribed to rpm-ecosystem@ my reply [2] was dropped, > messing up the threading. > [1]

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-13 Thread Lukáš Hrázký
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 17:08 +0100, Daniel Mach wrote: > On 10. 12. 21 13:39, Lukáš Hrázký wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 06:16 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > (Adding the correct Daniel Mach email address, he moved from Red Hat > > > to SUSE last month...) > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-10 Thread Chris Murphy
{ Apologies for not sending to rpm-ecosystem@ first off [1], then b. since I wasn't subscribed to rpm-ecosystem@ my reply [2] was dropped, messing up the threading. [1] http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-maint/2021-December/018662.html [2]

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-10 Thread Lukáš Hrázký
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 06:16 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > (Adding the correct Daniel Mach email address, he moved from Red Hat > to SUSE last month...) > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure I'm generally opposed to the idea of logs being rolled > > back

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-10 Thread Neal Gompa
(Adding the correct Daniel Mach email address, he moved from Red Hat to SUSE last month...) On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 10:11 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:01 AM Jaroslav Mracek wrote: > > > > Hello Chris, > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 5:01 AM Chris Murphy wrote: > >> > >> Hi

Re: [Rpm-ecosystem] [Rpm-maint] RFC: Relocate RPM and DNF databases to /usr

2021-12-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 9:05 AM Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On 12/7/21 06:00, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Hi RPM and DNF folks, > > > > I have a draft change proposal for review and comment, i.e. it's not yet > > set to be published to Fedora devel@. It's a bit thin, but I expect to > > fill in more