Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
We know the runtime requirements during the build. What do you mena by this?

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
You can't properly do it right now. It would need to be expanded on buildtime, 
but buildtime requirements != runtime requirements.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: please add a way to get the unexpanded content of a rpm variable (#582)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
One fairly obvious choice here would be %{noexpand:...} as the direct opposite 
of %{expand:...}.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] %global expands twice (#1049)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Started adding a %define/%global -style %literal directive for this using the 
new ME_LITERAL flag, but somehow it feels off the mark. I'm wondering if we 
should just add options to %define instead to allow finer expansion control 
(and make %global an alias to that)

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
So either we have a solution trough subpackages that is somewhat nice, but it 
requires a feature that is missing in RPM and a feature that is missing in DNF, 
or we do it trough reverse deps and that can be done right now, but is somewhat 
ugly?

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
They would depend on main package tied to NVR, and have broken deps after 
upgrade. And that should be just auto-removed by DNF (no such feature exists, 
but it is not very hard to implement in dnf.conf `autoallowremove=*+*`).

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
I still have no idea about what we would do with the obsoleted subpackages.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
@hroncok of course that would be nice. And something what we have discussed 
with @ffesti. He even asked me to send sumup how we would use that in Rust: 
http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-ecosystem/2020-February/000730.html

While there is no commitment or anything like that from anybody, I think there 
is a clear need for this feature and somebody just has to implement it. I guess 
Florian has some ideas how to actually do it in the code, but better to ask him.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
So only trough an external tool. What we are looking at are possibilities to do 
this in fully automated fashion from the requirements generators.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
> Can you do that automatically?

Yes, it is done in rust2rpm. It generates spec file with bunch of subpackages 
for each feature. And dependency generators support them, based on the name of 
subpackage, it extracts feature and adjust generation of Provides/Requires.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
Can you do that automatically?

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
@hroncok generate bunch of subpackages for the optional features (extras) and 
support them.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Add support for macro-only dependency generators (#1053)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Okay, together with the new RPMMACRO_LITERAL and a whole pile of other 
escaping-related changes, a path with percent signs can actually be passed 
unharmed through this.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
> I tried to add it to the buildroot macro (re-)definition, but with buildroot 
> it is pretty hopeless. rpm's rpmGenPath always expands all arguments, which 
> leads to the buildroot getting expanded over and over again.

Yup, it's %'s all the way down... :turtle: 
Perhaps we'll get there yet.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Add support for macro-only dependency generators (#1053)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
@pmatilai pushed 13 commits.

8b1ea52de31a428952a470225b153393489743fe  Double the '%' chars when splitting 
macro args
c886b359ba5f05eec6a8da34b55437834b7d80ee  Fix pointer dereference before 
testing for NULL in rpmtdGetNumber()
94623389ba61a3a93decc726ed63e52cca7b3d39  Fix buffer overflow in %{S:...} and 
%{P:...} macro primitives
227cddca88fe99b0e2454a45b941adc3d09bd2ce  Fix %{uncompress:...} 
double-expanding arguments + other miscellania
b551b256eaf03a1e4bfa7174e08f505dde8a5d2d  Refactor %{expand:...} handling to 
its own function
47dbb3e070efe8ef5583f22d4903a89bcda90d3c  Don't double-expand arguments to 
built-in macros (#311)
abcb0af241ea9ad0ef8f5a4467885245c0101d15  Refactor %{verbose:...} handling out 
of doFoo()
7d3a87ca1838d9a0983ab8532fc697cbca75a1d5  Remove duplicated code in macro 
expansion
07cc75f4d4173e5224faa1cb3715c5c7bc8856a2  Add a ME_LITERAL macro flag that 
turns off body expansion
cc66df4fa10470356639c47cec0761baccbc4aee  Add rpmPushMacroFlags function to 
allow the definition of literal macros
490c70d43cb16a794ac6a73c014ddb119cc9cd12  Use RPMMACRO_LITERAL/ME_LITERAL when 
defining some macros
18ddc291c30b2527deb974eb7d9a6e5b7f19d5ec  Add APIs for testing whether a macro 
is defined and whether its callable
d301eb41d0ac6cada357f281ff465f2f0b25b63a  Add support for macro-only dependency 
generators


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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
> we already do this for rust packages

You do what exactly?

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Schroeder
(Oh, and I renamed ME_NOEXPAND to ME_LITERAL for consistency)

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Merged #1060 into master.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Schroeder
Ok, done. I also used RPMMACRO_LITERAL at some other places where it made sense.

I tried to add it to the buildroot macro (re-)definition, but with buildroot it 
is pretty hopeless. rpm's rpmGenPath always expands all arguments, which leads 
to the buildroot getting expanded over and over again.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
pmatilai approved this pull request.

Cool, thanks.



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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
> This needs to be in python-rpm-generators, that's why I discuss this here. It 
> can be done "immediately". @ignatenkobrain when can we expect dynamic 
> subpackages?

Hopefully as soon as @ffesti has time :)

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@hroncok, the whole reason to not reimplement the wheel is that we already do 
this for rust packages.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Schroeder
@mlschroe pushed 3 commits.

69f083fe169487a95a0b9a4896dad88dcae4331d  Add a ME_LITERAL macro flag that 
turns off body expansion
2c5a7c08acae96ab07ae7c6bcee39616f69f852f  Add rpmPushMacroFlags function to 
allow the definition of literal macros
9c082dc030142eb068a8320ac91f7f106736dcbb  Use RPMMACRO_LITERAL/ME_LITERAL when 
defining some macros


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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
@pmatilai Thanks for confirmation :unicorn: 

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
@hroncok , dynamic sub-packages is nothing but a pink pony in our daydreams 
ATM, don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Add support for macro-only dependency generators (#1053)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Blocked until #1060 is merged and this PR updated to pass the argument as a 
literal.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Buffer overflow in doFoo() (#1019)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Closed #1019 via 94623389ba61a3a93decc726ed63e52cca7b3d39.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] rpm's doFoo function tends to expand twice (#313)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Closed #313 via 47dbb3e070efe8ef5583f22d4903a89bcda90d3c.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Bunch of macro fixes and cleanups (#1062)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Merged #1062 into master.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Bunch of macro fixes and cleanups (#1062)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Thanks for the review :)

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
Note that the subpackages approach has a problem if an extra goes away and it 
was installed on user machine.

Obviously, if we loose extras that are still dependent on, any approach will 
generate broken dependencies; but with subpckages, any removed subpackages will 
need to be obsoleted, and I'm afraid that any rpm level automation cannot 
possibly have knowledge about "subpackages in the past".

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
> if later, or just a little sooner: Don't bother.
> if a bit sooner: Put it in pyproject macros as an implementation detail, but 
> document that it shouldn't be done manually. As much as possible, ensure it 
> can be easily switched to dynamic subpackages.
> if much sooner (years): Go for it all the way :)

This needs to be in python-rpm-generators, that's why I discuss this here. It 
can be done "immediately". @ignatenkobrain when can we expect dynamic 
subpackages?

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Handle Python extras trough reverse requirements encoded in provides (#1061)

2020-02-10 Thread Petr Viktorin
I won't be able to think through all the edge cases soon to give you "this 
doesn't work, because..." kind of feedback. But "reverse requirements" do look 
viable.
I guess my question is: when can this be done, relative to proper support for 
dynamic subpackages?
* if later, or just a little sooner: Don't bother.
* if a bit sooner: Put it in pyproject macros as an implementation detail, but 
document that it shouldn't be done manually. As much as possible, ensure it can 
be easily switched to dynamic subpackages.
* if much sooner (years): Go for it all the way :)

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@decathorpe
> I am also reluctant to introduce another source of "if" rich dependencies, 
> which still aren't really correctly handled by some tools, not even some dnf 
> commands (e.g. repoclosure)

That sounds like "if" rich dependencies are unfixably unreliable. Should they 
be deprecated?

@decathorpe
> Can we extend pyp2rpm to generate these "extras" subpackages automatically in 
> the .spec files? rust2rpm does it this way for optional crate features.

pyp2rpm is a nice tool for initial packaging, but not useful for ongoing 
maintenance. It generates a specfile for you, but to update, you either need to 
put in upstream changes (good luck noticing changes in extras!), or re-generate 
the spec (throwing away any changes you made).
To make ongoing maintenance work, anything in pyp2rpm also needs to be doable 
manually. Instead of "extend pyp2rpm" you want to "change packaging 
guidelines"; pyp2rpm should follow those (if/when its dev(s) get to it).

@decathorpe
> I basically meant providing something that can require something - like a 
> proper virtual package specifed by Provides that can also specify Requires. 
> So, like a "virtual subpackage" without it being a "real package". Like you 
> simulate it with your option 3.

Sorry, I don't understand. Do you have a better way of doing what "option 3" 
does, or are you asking if such a better way exists?


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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Bunch of macro fixes and cleanups (#1062)

2020-02-10 Thread Michael Schroeder
mlschroe approved this pull request.

Nice!



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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] A saner way for marco argument escaping (#1060)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
This leaves __file_name and __file_lineno expansion inconsistent. Please move 
that commit last, and update the __file_name/lineno manipulation in build/ to 
use literals too. Other than that I guess this is good to go.

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[Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] Bunch of macro fixes and cleanups (#1062)

2020-02-10 Thread Panu Matilainen
Fix double-expansion of arguments to built-in macros (except for %{expand:..} 
whose sole purpose is to double-expand) refactoring the more special cases out 
of doFoo() and fixing misc other related bugs in the process. Details in the 
individual commit messages.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/1062

-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix buffer overflow in %{S:...} and %{P:...} macro primitives
  * Fix %{uncompress:...} double-expanding arguments + other miscellania
  * Refactor %{expand:...} handling to its own function
  * Dont double-expand arguments to built-in macros (#311)
  * Refactor %{verbose:...} handling out of doFoo()

-- File Changes --

M rpmio/macro.c (195)
M tests/rpmmacro.at (20)

-- Patch Links --

https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/1062.patch
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/pull/1062.diff

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] ocaml-find-requires.sh should also consider cmxs files (#913)

2020-02-10 Thread Olaf Hering
In which order is `/usr/lib/rpm/fileattrs/*.attr` evaluated? Is there a safe 
way to override the content of `%_rpmconfigdir/fileattrs/ocaml.attr` (part of 
rpm.rpm) with another file from my own `ocaml-rpm-macros.rpm` package?

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