Even when working test/spec-first, when I'm pairing with someone who isn't
experienced working that way, I find myself constantly saying I'm pretty
sure we don't need that yet. (I've just written the spec my pair is trying
to get passing, so I know how little code we need.) If it happens then,
On May 3, 2008, at 11:07 AM, John D. Hume wrote:
Even when working test/spec-first, when I'm pairing with someone who
isn't experienced working that way, I find myself constantly saying
I'm pretty sure we don't need that yet. (I've just written the
spec my pair is trying to get passing,
On May 3, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Scott Taylor wrote:
I remember a joke that Aslak mentioned a while back ago on this
list: He had a friend (or co-worker) who wanted to write a tool
which would delete every line of code which didn't get covered with
rcov. I found that remark funny because Aslak
On 2 May 2008, at 06:13, Tero Tilus wrote:
I can well imagine how you may end up not getting all the advantages
of BDD thru uncommenting process when you compare to clean BDD. But
uncommenting is definitely better than writing spec on top of existing
code, which in turn is _way_ better than
2008-04-30 15:51, Ashley Moran:
about a month ago I was working on someone else's code and followed
this process of uncommenting code as I wrote the specs for it (there
were none for that class). I actually *removed* the 'if
this_condition and that_condition' part of a line that follows the
On 28 Apr 2008, at 07:17, David Chelimsky wrote:
Also, this approach increases the level of granularity from
individual messages to complete statements. For example, let's say I
have this line commented:
# do_something if this_condition and that_condition
If this_condition and
On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Ashley Moran wrote:
Hi Matthew/Jonathan
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:58 pm, Jonathan Linowes wrote:
I'm not sure this answers your questions, but you prompted me to
share my experience.
And this has prompted mine... I was going to do a blow-by-blow
response to
Thanks for all of the great replies!
This thread answered a lot of my questions.
-Matt
From: David Chelimsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:17:17 -0500
To: rspec-users rspec-users@rubyforge.org
Subject: Re: [rspec-users] BDD
Hi Matthew.
I don't think it's off-topic at all. I would estimate around 80% of the
traffic on this list is about how do I test such-and-such with rails?.
Rails is designed for a particular subset of web applications, namely ones
that look a lot like basecamp. They mostly involve capturing,
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Dan North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Matthew.
I don't think it's off-topic at all. I would estimate around 80% of the
traffic on this list is about how do I test such-and-such with rails?.
Rails is designed for a particular subset of web applications,
On 25 Apr 2008, at 00:59, Brian Takita wrote:
This reminds me of Allister Cockburn's application of Shu Ha Ri in
software development.
http://alistair.cockburn.us/index.php/ASD_book_extract:_%22Unknowable_and_incommunicable%22
http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/ShuHaRi.html
This is a little off topic, but I use rSpec and I¹m starting to question the
quality of my specs. In my research and attempt to learn how to write
better specs, I¹ve came across a few things that I¹d like to discuss.
I¹m having more and more difficulty understanding BDD. The more I read and
the
I'm not sure this answers your questions, but you prompted me to
share my experience.
Personally i consider BDD just one tool in my toolbox. And I consider
rspec to be as much a testing tool as a (BD)Development one. So I
often find myself just taking the path of least resistance. And
Hi Matthew/Jonathan
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:58 pm, Jonathan Linowes wrote:
I'm not sure this answers your questions, but you prompted me to
share my experience.
And this has prompted mine... I was going to do a blow-by-blow
response to Matthew's post but I can probably sum up my current
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Ashley Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Matthew/Jonathan
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:58 pm, Jonathan Linowes wrote:
I'm not sure this answers your questions, but you prompted me to
share my experience.
And this has prompted mine... I was going to do a
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