Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-09 Thread Dan North
I know a while back Google used to request python skills when they were hiring java folks. They didn't actually need python to do their job - it just meant they attracted the kind of developers who venture outside their regular programming world, which is what they were really after. Mind you they

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-09 Thread David Chelimsky
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Ashley Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9 Sep 2008, at 13:28, Dan North wrote: I know a while back Google used to request python skills when they were hiring java folks. They didn't actually need python to do their job - it just meant they attracted the kind

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-08 Thread Ashley Moran
On Sep 08, 2008, at 1:09 am, Pat Maddox wrote: btw, a job ad that would catch my eye would be one that lists the tools you use, what open source contributions you've made to them, and what other open source stuff you've done in the form of plugins, mini apps, whatever. Hi Pat, Mark,

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-07 Thread Mark Wilden
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ashley Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: But what things make a job appealing? What technologies, skills, practices and methodologies make for a good BDD role? Just mentioning BDD is good. It's easily searched for, and if you indicate that it's not just a

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-07 Thread Bryan Liles
RSpec is a tool, it should be in face *minimally* (yes, this is important!) A job description that mentioned RSpec explicitly would signal a red flag to me. On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Mark Wilden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ashley Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-07 Thread Scott Taylor
On Sep 7, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Bryan Liles wrote: RSpec is a tool, it should be in face *minimally* (yes, this is important!) A job description that mentioned RSpec explicitly would signal a red flag to me. Not at all! A mention of RSpec would be a great thing. In fact, it's one of the

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-07 Thread Mark Wilden
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Bryan Liles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RSpec is a tool, it should be in face *minimally* (yes, this is important!) A job description that mentioned RSpec explicitly would signal a red flag to me. BDD, Ruby on Rails, and OOP are just tools, too. They are each

Re: [rspec-users] What does a skilled BDD-/RSpec-er want in a job?

2008-09-07 Thread Pat Maddox
Bryan Liles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RSpec is a tool, it should be in face *minimally* (yes, this is important!) A job description that mentioned RSpec explicitly would signal a red flag to me. I'm with Scott Mark on this one. Tools matter, and good developers usually have strong