On 11 Apr 2008, at 03:03, Rick DeNatale wrote:
> And I wouldn't think that most reasonable systems would disable
> Lisa1's account because some Lisa2 tried and failed to use the same
> name.
Somebody, somewhere has built a system that does this. You know it.
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On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Glenn Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Quoting Aslak
> > Given the customers joe, paul and lisa are registered users
> > When a user signs up as lisa
> > Then the user should be informed that the name is taken
> > And the user lisa should not be able to log in
>
>> This actually sounds more confusing to me when viewed in the context
>> of my own stories, and it seems similar to what's going on here. I
>> write a lot about the user's interaction with the site and what
>> should
>> happen, so I have a lot of stories that look like:
>>
>> Given database is
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:25 PM, aslak hellesoy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a very "technical" way to express a scenario. It wouldn't make
> much sense to a typical domain expert (unless they know about
> databases).
> I generally try to write scenarios using the domain language,
>
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Glenn Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Apr 9, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Pat Maddox wrote:
>
> > On 4/9/08, Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9 Apr 2008, at 14:14, aslak hellesoy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a style comment: I usually strive for a si
On 10 Apr 2008, at 18:28, Glenn Ford wrote:
> Given database is in this state
> When user does this stuff in browser
> Then database should be in this new state
I like the way you phrased this Glenn. Maybe the distinction is that
Given is everything outside the control of the user, or, if th
On Apr 9, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Pat Maddox wrote:
> On 4/9/08, Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 9 Apr 2008, at 14:14, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>>
>>> Just a style comment: I usually strive for a single When (in this
>>> case
>>> Fred uploads the csv file).
>>> The other ones are Givens
On 9 Apr 2008, at 22:04, Pat Maddox wrote:
> Not bad, but perhaps misleading. Given is used to express
> preconditions, wheras When is for an action. Her you are expressing
> preconditions, even if those preconditions are action-based instead of
> state-based (e.g. the known state of the work is
On 4/9/08, Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9 Apr 2008, at 14:14, aslak hellesoy wrote:
>
> > Just a style comment: I usually strive for a single When (in this case
> > Fred uploads the csv file).
> > The other ones are Givens.
>
> Hmm, I've written a lot of Selenium stories lately, a
On 9 Apr 2008, at 14:14, aslak hellesoy wrote:
> Just a style comment: I usually strive for a single When (in this case
> Fred uploads the csv file).
> The other ones are Givens.
Hmm, I've written a lot of Selenium stories lately, and they look like
this:
Given ...
When the user visits
On 9 Apr 2008, at 11:31, Tim Haines wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> What's your use case? I'm curious...
>
> Tim.
Hi Tim
I've finally started writing a tool I've wanted for ages: a REAL
database migration system, that works on a patch system with
dependency tracking (like darcs), not a borked^H^H
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Rick DeNatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Ashley Moran
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I just wondered what the plan w
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM, David Chelimsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm also interested in how we can do more FIT-like things using
> > tables. But maybe that belongs in a different tool...
>
> Like, uh
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:14 AM, aslak hellesoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm also interested in how we can do more FIT-like things using
> tables. But maybe that belongs in a different tool...
Like, uh FIT?
I've been thinking of resurrecting the Ruby FIT project which seems to
have no c
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Rick DeNatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Ashley Moran
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I just wondered what the plan was for multi-line steps. Is anyone
> > working on it? I've just come across a real use for it
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Ashley Moran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I just wondered what the plan was for multi-line steps. Is anyone
> working on it? I've just come across a real use for it (including
> small text files in the story).
It' might be a little clunky, but I've recen
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Tim Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> What's your use case? I'm curious...
>
> Tim.
>
>
I'm working on a Treetop (http://treetop.rubyforge.org/)
implementation of the Story parser.
Please file any suggestions for improvements to the story format t
Hi Ashley,
What's your use case? I'm curious...
Tim.
On 09/04/2008, Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I just wondered what the plan was for multi-line steps. Is anyone
> working on it? I've just come across a real use for it (including
> small text files in the story).
>
> Ch
Hi
I just wondered what the plan was for multi-line steps. Is anyone
working on it? I've just come across a real use for it (including
small text files in the story).
Cheers
Ashley
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