Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- "Kenneth F Crocker"  wrote:
> I have been given the opportunity to have a new development zone
> created for RT. I was asked if I wanted the new zone to be Linux or
> Solaris based. So, all you gurus out there, what's best?

Sorry to be so late chiming in on this, Ken; I've been following it on my 
blackberry, but building a new 175 seat facility, and a bit tied up.
Here's my humble opinion of the answer to your question, based on 25 years
of sysadminning:

What's best is *what you know*.  I believe I've heard you say that you aren't
a particularly Unixy guy.  As a fallback, then, what's best is *what they
develop on*.  If you plan to need advice, and you have a clear field to build
in and no local talent with expertise, then what you should pick is the same
environment in which the lead developer, or the active developers most active
in giving advice, work themselves -- as their advice will then be most portable
to what you're doing.

I *think* for this crowd that that implies at least Linux, over BSD or 
Polaris, and also MySQL over PG -- I understand PG is now at least a semi-
officially supported distro, which it was not back in 3.2 days when I was
trying to go there.

Precisely which distro, I'm not sure, but I would say you picked the right
list of people to poll.  :-)

As I believe you've inferred, though, RT, like WebGUI and a couple of other 
packages, is now large and complicated enough that you don't want to be trying 
to share a machine with any other large subsystems.  It's the dirty little 
secret of componentized software that dependency hell works in more than one
way.  Once packages get complicated enough in their dependencies, they tend
to collide with one another when you try to co-reside them.

WebGUI is bad enough that it brings along *everything*: its own perl, its
own Apache, etc, etc, ad frickin nauseum.

And yet it's worth it.

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Gary Greene
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> [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf 
> Of Gary Greene
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:44 PM
> To: John Arends; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
> > [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf 
> > Of John Arends
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:16 PM
> > To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
> > Subject: Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine
> > 
> > Gary Greene wrote:
> > > I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, 
> > since it is 
> > > practically the same thing, and there are more than a few 
> > of us CentOS 
> > > users running RT with our own RPMs.
> > >   
> > What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 
> 3.8.2 there 
> > are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible 
> > task to build 
> > RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
> > script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
> > everything down from CPAN and installing it.
> 
> 3.8.1, I've yet to update to 3.8.2

Also I forgot to mention, I cheat a little with building RPMs by using the 
cpan2rpm script and then hand mod the specs that it generates to build reliable 
packages.

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Joop van de Wege
Ken Crocker wrote:
> John,
> 
> 
> We are currently running 3.6.4, but DESPERATELY want to upgrade to 
> 3.8.2. Hence the desire to get this new zone set up right FIRST, before 
> trying to upgrade. We are an Oracle house, so that's not on the table. 
> So far, I'm leaning toward Linux, but I haven't heard from Jesse or 
> Ruslan, Stephen Turner, Joop, or Mike Peachy or any of the more 
> experienced players yet. I'm actually starting to get excited.
> 
Now I feel compelled to reply ;-)
We're an Oracle shop too and have a mixed environment of servers, 
Windows, Linux, Solaris (8 on sparc). Some of our customers do run 
Oracle on Windows, either virtualised or on real hardware, and recently 
we have gone Centos4(5) in a virtualised environment. Sofar we like it. 
Currently we're running our RT installation (3.8.2) on Ubuntu using 
Oracle XE but thats going to be migrated to Centos too. There is a known 
problem with Centos and RT but knowing it makes it no problem. Now we're 
a small shop probably compared to some of the people on this list, you 
included so I don't have to maintain 20+ servers with a small problem 
which then mostly becomes a BIG problem.

So if you have access to half a decent PC you could install VMware or 
VirtualBox or name you're favorite and play around with it. To give you 
some guidance about how long things take:
takes me about 30min to setup a centos4/5 server, mostly default 
settings, about 30-60min to setup Oracle 10g and probably about the same 
amount of time to install RT and thats mostly waiting for cpan to 
install things.
Now I have done this quite a few times so be prepared if you're really a 
noob on linux/solaris commandline stuff (that is DEFINITELY not meant to 
be negative to you)

So bottom line is I would go for Linux except when you need things 
unique to Solaris (zfs,dtrace,zones,??).
Ubuntu is bleeding edge, Centos is 'conservative', RH get you support 
(payed well probably), Suse ? (no experience, other then that its the 
basis of our virtualisation layer)

If you need more help, either virtual or real, just let me know,

Joop
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Gary Greene
> -Original Message-
> From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
> [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf 
> Of John Arends
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:16 PM
> To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine
> 
> Gary Greene wrote:
> > I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, 
> since it is 
> > practically the same thing, and there are more than a few 
> of us CentOS 
> > users running RT with our own RPMs.
> >   
> What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there 
> are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible 
> task to build 
> RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
> script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
> everything down from CPAN and installing it.

3.8.1, I've yet to update to 3.8.2

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Cassandra L. Brockett
When it comes to RT, I actually run a mixed approach.

I run a standard distro (in the case here Ubuntu Server 8 LTS), for things like 
apache, perl, etc.  However once the basic system is installed, with the 
necessary build utilities (GCC, etc), I then compile RT from source.

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> Can I assume your voting for Linux?

Within the context of RT I don't understand what "voting for Linux" is supposed 
to mean. RT doesn't care about what kernel is running. It only cares about the 
supporting software, which itself is also independent of the kernel.
 
Based on my experience, I believe a source-based distribution is the best way 
to go, unless somebody wants to hand build every necessary component, starting 
with perl and apache. That is something I considered, but the maintenance 
involved with that kind of environment is not something I wanted to tackle. 

I have a lot of familiarity with the portage package management system of 
Gentoo, which is why I chose it. It just so happens that the Gentoo 
distribution is primarily a Linux based distribution. But the running kernel 
played little to no role in my choice.

I suspect using ports with a FreeBSD platform would work just as well for 
someone who is familiar with ports. It's not about the kernel, it's about the 
software environment. In my opinion a software environment with a source based 
package management system is the best option because of all the different 
software pieces required for RT to function optimally.

-Sean



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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Sean

> Can I assume your voting for Linux?

Within the context of RT I don't understand what "voting for Linux" is
supposed to mean. RT doesn't care about what kernel is running. It only
cares about the supporting software, which itself is also independent of
the kernel.
 
Based on my experience, I believe a source-based distribution is the
best way to go, unless somebody wants to hand build every necessary
component, starting with perl and apache. That is something I
considered, but the maintenance involved with that kind of environment
is not something I wanted to tackle. 

I have a lot of familiarity with the portage package management system
of Gentoo, which is why I chose it. It just so happens that the Gentoo
distribution is primarily a Linux based distribution. But the running
kernel played little to no role in my choice.

I suspect using ports with a FreeBSD platform would work just as well
for someone who is familiar with ports. It's not about the kernel, it's
about the software environment. In my opinion a software environment
with a source based package management system is the best option because
of all the different software pieces required for RT to function
optimally.

-Sean



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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Tom Lahti
I am running RT 3.8.2 on Slackware 12.0.  I originally installed
3.6. and upgraded to 3.8.0 and then 3.8.2.  The original install was
perfectly clean; no mess, no fuss.  Upgrades were equally simple, once I
figured to actually do all of the upgrade and not just part of it.

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Potla, Ashish Bassaliel
I am in the process of upgrading RT 3.6.5 to RT 3.8.2 . In fact I have it set 
up in Dev arena and waiting for user testing before I move it to production by 
the end of the month probably.. hopefully

I use Solaris , Apache2 with mod_perl2 and DB on Oracle. 
Doesnt seem too bad  :)

-Ashish

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On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:16 -0500, John Arends wrote:
> Gary Greene wrote:
> > I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is
> > practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS
> > users running RT with our own RPMs.
> >
> What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there
> are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible task to build
> RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the
> script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling
> everything down from CPAN and installing it.

We recently updated from 3.6 to 3.8. I tried to get 3.8.2 going in an
OpenSolaris (snv_101) zone and Ubuntu 8.10 (also tried Jaunty alpha)
server installation. Neither was anywhere close to a clean install, and
neither worked to my level of satisfaction. I ended up using a Gentoo
server. In my opinion, Gentoo and RT 3.8 is a pretty good match. Being a
source based distribution helps, I think.

Just my 2c.

-Sean
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Ken Crocker

Sean,


   Can I assume your voting for Linux?


Kenn

On 3/13/2009 1:26 PM, Sean wrote:

On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:16 -0500, John Arends wrote:
  

Gary Greene wrote:

I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is 
practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS 
users running RT with our own RPMs.
  
  
What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there 
are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible task to build 
RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
everything down from CPAN and installing it.



We recently updated from 3.6 to 3.8. I tried to get 3.8.2 going in an
OpenSolaris (snv_101) zone and Ubuntu 8.10 (also tried Jaunty alpha)
server installation. Neither was anywhere close to a clean install, and
neither worked to my level of satisfaction. I ended up using a Gentoo
server. In my opinion, Gentoo and RT 3.8 is a pretty good match. Being a
source based distribution helps, I think.

Just my 2c.

-Sean
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Sean

On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 15:16 -0500, John Arends wrote:
> Gary Greene wrote:
> > I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is 
> > practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS 
> > users running RT with our own RPMs.
> >   
> What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there 
> are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible task to build 
> RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
> script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
> everything down from CPAN and installing it.

We recently updated from 3.6 to 3.8. I tried to get 3.8.2 going in an
OpenSolaris (snv_101) zone and Ubuntu 8.10 (also tried Jaunty alpha)
server installation. Neither was anywhere close to a clean install, and
neither worked to my level of satisfaction. I ended up using a Gentoo
server. In my opinion, Gentoo and RT 3.8 is a pretty good match. Being a
source based distribution helps, I think.

Just my 2c.

-Sean
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Ken Crocker

John,


   We are currently running 3.6.4, but DESPERATELY want to upgrade to 
3.8.2. Hence the desire to get this new zone set up right FIRST, before 
trying to upgrade. We are an Oracle house, so that's not on the table. 
So far, I'm leaning toward Linux, but I haven't heard from Jesse or 
Ruslan, Stephen Turner, Joop, or Mike Peachy or any of the more 
experienced players yet. I'm actually starting to get excited.


Kenn
LBNL

On 3/13/2009 1:16 PM, John Arends wrote:

Gary Greene wrote:
  
I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is 
practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS 
users running RT with our own RPMs.
  

What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there 
are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible task to build 
RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
everything down from CPAN and installing it.

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread John Arends
Gary Greene wrote:
> I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is 
> practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS 
> users running RT with our own RPMs.
>   
What version of RT are you running on top of CentOS? With 3.8.2 there 
are so many dependencies it seems to be a near impossible task to build 
RPMs for all the required perl modules. I've been playing with the 
script included with RT and it does a pretty good job of pulling 
everything down from CPAN and installing it.
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Gary Greene
> -Original Message-
> From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com 
> [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of jul
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:56 PM
> To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
> Subject: Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine
> 
> 
> Ken Crocker a écrit :
> > John,
> >
> >
> > Thanks. That's sounds like a good thing to keep in 
> mind. Anyone else?
> >
> Yes :
> 3 servers :
> 1) for RT ;
> 2) one for the DB (if you plan postgres or oracle) (I recommend Pg) so
> that you can tune it easily (sysctl in kernel will impact all the
> processes, and that's normal, but what suits DB does not 
> suits apache or
> other programs)
> 3) one for Backup (optional but a good idea)
> 
> 
> FreeBsd is as a good choice as debian ; I use both, and there are some
> interests in both. Don't even think of using RedHat for the 
> support since
> there is a 99% chance you'll install custom perl package that 
> will ruin
> your support.
> 
> Plan to tune apache  ;) and do a little perl.
> Have fun
> 
> Jul
> 

I would go CentOS for the machine if you're a RH person, since it is 
practically the same thing, and there are more than a few of us CentOS users 
running RT with our own RPMs.

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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread jul

Ken Crocker a écrit :
> John,
>
>
> Thanks. That's sounds like a good thing to keep in mind. Anyone else?
>
Yes :
3 servers :
1) for RT ;
2) one for the DB (if you plan postgres or oracle) (I recommend Pg) so
that you can tune it easily (sysctl in kernel will impact all the
processes, and that's normal, but what suits DB does not suits apache or
other programs)
3) one for Backup (optional but a good idea)


FreeBsd is as a good choice as debian ; I use both, and there are some
interests in both. Don't even think of using RedHat for the support since
there is a 99% chance you'll install custom perl package that will ruin
your support.

Plan to tune apache  ;) and do a little perl.
Have fun

Jul



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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Ken Crocker

John,


   Thanks. That's sounds like a good thing to keep in mind. Anyone else?


Kenn
LBNL

On 3/13/2009 12:25 PM, John Arends wrote:
I have a bias towards Linux for this purpose. RT seems to be pushing the 
envelope with bleeding edge everything, and Solaris and bleeding edge 
don't mix.


Kenneth F Crocker wrote:
  

To all (especially Jesse and Ruslan),


I have been given the opportunity to have a new development zone created for RT. I was 
asked if I wanted the new zone to be Linux or Solaris based. So, all you gurus out there, 
what's best? I know that most of this stuff was designed for Solaris, but is everything going 
toward Linux now? If I am going to move forward with RT, and I CERTAINLY AM, which would be 
best? Is it easier to do upgrades on Solaris as opposed to Linux? What about contributions 
like "CommanByMail"? In fact, as some of you have seen my latest trouble getting 
"ComandByMail to even install on my current zone, my old, old, old zone is the reason I 
am being given this new development zone. I can set it up any way I want and I WANT it to be 
set up so that installing RT and future upgrades will be simpler and easier than it has for me 
in the past.
So, Any advice? Thanks.


Kenn
LBNL
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Re: [rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread John Arends
I have a bias towards Linux for this purpose. RT seems to be pushing the 
envelope with bleeding edge everything, and Solaris and bleeding edge 
don't mix.

Kenneth F Crocker wrote:
> To all (especially Jesse and Ruslan),
>
>
> I have been given the opportunity to have a new development zone created 
> for RT. I was asked if I wanted the new zone to be Linux or Solaris based. 
> So, all you gurus out there, what's best? I know that most of this stuff was 
> designed for Solaris, but is everything going toward Linux now? If I am going 
> to move forward with RT, and I CERTAINLY AM, which would be best? Is it 
> easier to do upgrades on Solaris as opposed to Linux? What about 
> contributions like "CommanByMail"? In fact, as some of you have seen my 
> latest trouble getting "ComandByMail to even install on my current zone, my 
> old, old, old zone is the reason I am being given this new development zone. 
> I can set it up any way I want and I WANT it to be set up so that installing 
> RT and future upgrades will be simpler and easier than it has for me in the 
> past.
> So, Any advice? Thanks.
>
>
> Kenn
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[rt-users] Advice for New Machine

2009-03-13 Thread Kenneth F Crocker
To all (especially Jesse and Ruslan),


I have been given the opportunity to have a new development zone created 
for RT. I was asked if I wanted the new zone to be Linux or Solaris based. So, 
all you gurus out there, what's best? I know that most of this stuff was 
designed for Solaris, but is everything going toward Linux now? If I am going 
to move forward with RT, and I CERTAINLY AM, which would be best? Is it easier 
to do upgrades on Solaris as opposed to Linux? What about contributions like 
"CommanByMail"? In fact, as some of you have seen my latest trouble getting 
"ComandByMail to even install on my current zone, my old, old, old zone is the 
reason I am being given this new development zone. I can set it up any way I 
want and I WANT it to be set up so that installing RT and future upgrades will 
be simpler and easier than it has for me in the past.
So, Any advice? Thanks.


Kenn
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