Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Stefan Marx
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Stefan, in a nutshell, this is the default behavior of RT.  Users
get
 created when added as CC to a ticket, or when some 'outside' user
creates a
 ticket via email.

okay. No problem. How do I convert them into 'real' users?

 But those users are disabled by default - they don't have
permissions.  The
 reason you don't see those users in the drop-down list is because you
need
 to select 'include disabled users in search' at the bottom of the
screen.

No. I find them in only 1 or 2 places, and never in the normal users
list, regardless if I enable the view of disabled users.
 
 I don't think you can delete those users other than removing them
manually
 from the DB - but I don't think that would be a good idea.  There is
no
 reason to delete them in the first place.


The problem is, sometimes people get cc'ed, and after a while, when
they get more involved, they are created as real users. But then their
email-address can not be filled in, because it is already existent
somewhere in the database. As a workaround I have manually manipulated
those address-entries of the automatically created users in the database
directly.  Not very cool, I know.

Best regards, Stefan
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Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Stefan Marx
Hi
...
 But those users are disabled by default - they don't have
 permissions.  The
 reason you don't see those users in the drop-down list is because
you
 need
 to select 'include disabled users in search' at the bottom of the
 screen.
 
 No. I find them in only 1 or 2 places, and never in the normal users
 list, regardless if I enable the view of disabled users.

Ooookay, I found out how to find them... Just a % in the search
field...

But is there a way to somehow merge them together or clean them out
consistently? Because I can find the same user with at least three
different versions of his email address or typos of it and the like. For
now it seems I have to learn some more SQL...

Regards, Stefan
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Re: Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread jmoseley
In your previous post, you mentioned that sometimes you want to create a
particular user, but can't because this new users email address is already
taken by a user that got automatically created.

To fix that, you do exactly what you are doing - you manipulate/change the
address of the inactive user, then create the new user with the correct
email address.

Yes, you can merge users.  There are examples of how to accomplish this in
the Wiki (I think) as well as archived postings to this list.  I would
search there first.


James Moseley




   
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Hi
...
 But those users are disabled by default - they don't have
 permissions.  The
 reason you don't see those users in the drop-down list is because
you
 need
 to select 'include disabled users in search' at the bottom of the
 screen.

 No. I find them in only 1 or 2 places, and never in the normal users
 list, regardless if I enable the view of disabled users.

Ooookay, I found out how to find them... Just a % in the search
field...

But is there a way to somehow merge them together or clean them out
consistently? Because I can find the same user with at least three
different versions of his email address or typos of it and the like. For
now it seems I have to learn some more SQL...

Regards, Stefan
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[rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Stefan Marx
Hi,

I have some users in our RT 3.6.3 which seem to be created
automagically by having someone placing their email-address into some
fields (I think some users have CC'ed them like in their email-system)
However, they do not appear in most drop-down lists, where I can choose
users, only in some. 

But how can I get rid of them, they do not show up in the users list,
and how can I change this behaviour? Is it enough to clean them out of
the Users-table in the database? And is there a configuration parameter
to stop them from appearing?

Regards, Stefan
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AW: Re: Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Ham MI-ID, Torsten Brumm
Hi,
You don't need to change anything at this unprivileged user, just grab them 
from the inactive users list and activate them, it makes no sense to hold them 
twice inside the rt db.

If you really like to get rid of them, use rtx-shredder and shred them with 
ruslans tool, that's more secure, but never do this inside the db, otherwise 
you will find yourself in big trouble ;-)

Torsten

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Subject: Re: Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

In your previous post, you mentioned that sometimes you want to create a
particular user, but can't because this new users email address is already
taken by a user that got automatically created.

To fix that, you do exactly what you are doing - you manipulate/change the
address of the inactive user, then create the new user with the correct
email address.

Yes, you can merge users.  There are examples of how to accomplish this in
the Wiki (I think) as well as archived postings to this list.  I would
search there first.


James Moseley




   
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Hi
...
 But those users are disabled by default - they don't have
 permissions.  The
 reason you don't see those users in the drop-down list is because
you
 need
 to select 'include disabled users in search' at the bottom of the
 screen.

 No. I find them in only 1 or 2 places, and never in the normal users
 list, regardless if I enable the view of disabled users.

Ooookay, I found out how to find them... Just a % in the search
field...

But is there a way to somehow merge them together or clean them out
consistently? Because I can find the same user with at least three
different versions of his email address or typos of it and the like. For
now it seems I have to learn some more SQL...

Regards, Stefan
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Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Jeff Voskamp

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Stefan, in a nutshell, this is the default behavior of RT.  Users get
created when added as CC to a ticket, or when some 'outside' user creates a
ticket via email.

But those users are disabled by default - they don't have permissions.  The
reason you don't see those users in the drop-down list is because you need
to select 'include disabled users in search' at the bottom of the screen.

I don't think you can delete those users other than removing them manually
from the DB - but I don't think that would be a good idea.  There is no
reason to delete them in the first place.


James Moseley


Hi,

I have some users in our RT 3.6.3 which seem to be created
automagically by having someone placing their email-address into some
fields (I think some users have CC'ed them like in their email-system)
However, they do not appear in most drop-down lists, where I can choose
users, only in some.

But how can I get rid of them, they do not show up in the users list,
and how can I change this behaviour? Is it enough to clean them out of
the Users-table in the database? And is there a configuration parameter
to stop them from appearing?

Regards, Stefan
  

There are basically 3 states for users:
- Disabled
- Casual/SelfServe
- Can own tickets.

Autocreated users are Casual and have no rights.

Configuration/Users lists people who can own tickets.
The search function will find Casual users as well (unless you click on 
include disabled users


Odds are that what you want to do is search for the email address, 
update the user and make sure to click on the Let this user be granted 
rights button under the Access Control section. Then you can add them 
to groups and allow them access to queues now that they are Real people.


No mucking with the database is necessary.

Jeff Voskamp
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Re: Antw: Re: [rt-users] Users seem to be created automagically

2007-07-13 Thread Drew Barnes
RT::Extension::MergeUsers -
http://search.cpan.org/~jesse/RT-Extension-MergeUsers-0.02/

Stefan Marx wrote:
 Ooookay, I found out how to find them... Just a % in the search
 field...

 But is there a way to somehow merge them together or clean them out
 consistently? Because I can find the same user with at least three
 different versions of his email address or typos of it and the like. For
 now it seems I have to learn some more SQL...

 Regards, Stefan
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