Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:22:30AM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote: On 31 Mar 2009, at 8:23 am, Martin Maurer wrote: Hi Dominic, Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny? ... or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be a better solution. It's not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny. The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example, testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages in a site-local repository. The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied in lenny, but I'm still in two minds about whether this is worth the extra work. I certainly don't have a use case for it (since we already have our own private apt repositories for local builds). Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with the appropriate package pinning? Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
-Original Message- From: Dominic Hargreaves [mailto:dominic.hargrea...@oucs.ox.ac.uk] Sent: Donnerstag, 02. April 2009 15:59 To: Tim Cutts Cc: Martin Maurer; rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:22:30AM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote: On 31 Mar 2009, at 8:23 am, Martin Maurer wrote: Hi Dominic, Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny? ... or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be a better solution. It's not a valid upload candidate for lenny-backports, since the version in testing/unstable does not require rebuilding to work on lenny. The normal way of handling these cases would be to add, for example, testing or unstable APT lines, with appropriate package pinning to avoid pulling anything except the required packages, or to put packages in a site-local repository. The last time this was discussed Martin was keen to provide a repository with just the request-tracker3.8 package and dependencies not satisfied in lenny, but I'm still in two minds about whether this is worth the extra work. I certainly don't have a use case for it (since we already have our own private apt repositories for local builds). Martin, could you think again about whether you are able to get by with the appropriate package pinning? Thanks, I will test this and give feedback. Br, Martin ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On 31 Mar 2009, at 8:23 am, Martin Maurer wrote: Hi Dominic, Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny? ... or possibly get the packages uploaded to lenny-backports, might be a better solution. Tim -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
-Original Message- From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users- boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves Sent: Montag, 16. März 2009 18:31 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 02:05:27PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:45:15PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an upload the same week. I'm just testing our current candidate, but there's a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which I'll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another week or so. Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl) I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks. RT 3.8.2 packages are now in unstable. Cheers, Dominic. Hi Dominic, Thanks for this, I see the 3.8.2 packages are already in unstable AND testing - but what about the original discussed idea to have an extra repo with rt 3.8.x for Lenny? Best Regards, Martin Maurer mar...@proxmox.com http://pve.proxmox.com ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 02:05:27PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:45:15PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an upload the same week. I'm just testing our current candidate, but there's a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which I'll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another week or so. Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl) I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks. RT 3.8.2 packages are now in unstable. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:45:15PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an upload the same week. I'm just testing our current candidate, but there's a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which I'll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another week or so. Current status is that this is currently stalled on a new package waiting in NEW[0] (libipc-run-safehandles-perl) I would hazard a guess that ftpmasters are busy preparing for the release of Lenny, so this might not get processed for a few weeks. [0] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
-Original Message- From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users- boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves Sent: Freitag, 16. Jänner 2009 09:36 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:37:10PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users. If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful. I'll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable, which shouldn't be long. Hi Dominic! Do you got a rough schedule for this? BTW, did you get a chance to test the already released RT appliance? http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/Proxmox_VE_RT_Appliance Best Regards, Martin mar...@proxmox.com http://pve.proxmox.com ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 05:16:54PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: -Original Message- From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users- boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves Sent: Freitag, 16. Jänner 2009 09:36 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? I'll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable, which shouldn't be long. Do you got a rough schedule for this? I hesitate to say again, since I previously expected to be able to do an upload the same week. I'm just testing our current candidate, but there's a new bug which requires a new package upload to Debian which I'll want to get in before a new upload, so it may not be for another week or so. BTW, did you get a chance to test the already released RT appliance? http://wiki.bestpractical.com/view/Proxmox_VE_RT_Appliance No, sorry, this isn't something that is particularly relevant for us. Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:37:10PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users. If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful. I'll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable, which shouldn't be long. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:37:10PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users. If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful. I'll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable, which shouldn't be long. Good news, I will test as soon as available! Br, Martin http://pve.proxmox.com mar...@proxmox.com ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
Dominic Hargreaves wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:06:48PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:34:21PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this? Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly unstable - it won't be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new package name) in the next few days. For those who are interested, 3.8.2 packages are now available in Debian experimental (there are a few more issues to work out before an upload to unstable, but this packages should be largely working). They should work on etch (with a few extra packages) and lenny. I updated my main RT instance with these packages. Works like a charm, thanks Dominic! Regards Racke -- LinuXia Systems = http://www.linuxia.de/ Expert Interchange Consulting and System Administration ICDEVGROUP = http://www.icdevgroup.org/ Interchange Development Team ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
Same here. A. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:54:42AM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:37:10PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users. If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful. I'll do this once request-tracker3.8 has been uploaded to unstable, which shouldn't be long. Good news, I will test as soon as available! Br, Martin http://pve.proxmox.com mar...@proxmox.com -- You Are What You Is - Frank Zappa signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
-Original Message- From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com [mailto:rt-users- boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Hargreaves Sent: Freitag, 09. Jänner 2009 15:51 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com Subject: Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny? On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 02:11:49PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only open issue is the repository. (currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt 3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future). Sorry, I didn't fully read this section. If it's essential that you have a repository which is maintained for lenny during its lifetime in the long-term and suitable for being maintained for an appliance where there is no expert local admin, I would recommend maintaining your own repository based on the packages from Debian proper, but we can consider maintaining one on alioth.debian.org if that makes the most sense. Dominic. Hi Dominic, Yes, having an own Lenny repository just with the rt 3.8.x packages would be essential for all Lenny users. If you can setup this on alioth.debian.org this would be wonderful. Best Regards, Martin Maurer mar...@proxmox.com http://pve.proxmox.com ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:06:48PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:34:21PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this? Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly unstable - it won't be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new package name) in the next few days. For those who are interested, 3.8.2 packages are now available in Debian experimental (there are a few more issues to work out before an upload to unstable, but this packages should be largely working). They should work on etch (with a few extra packages) and lenny. Cheers, Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:34:21PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this? Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly unstable - it won't be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new package name) in the next few days. The point is that Lenny will be the stable release soon and I see no way to use experimental repos or a mix - so we need Lenny packages. So as it cannot goes into the official Lenny, we need someone who runs and maintains the rt 3.8.x packages for Lenny. @Jesse, do you have any comment/ideas here? We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only open issue is the repository. (currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt 3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future). Best Regards, Martin Maurer mar...@proxmox.com http://www.proxmox.com -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 02:11:49PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: The point is that Lenny will be the stable release soon and I see no way to use experimental repos or a mix - so we need Lenny packages. That's not quite true. It's perfectly possible to add additional resources to the sources.list and use package pinning; in fact with experimental packages won't be pulled in by default anyway. So as it cannot goes into the official Lenny, we need someone who runs and maintains the rt 3.8.x packages for Lenny. I will maintain packages in backports.org if necessary, but at the moment the packages in experimental work fine on lenny so there is no need to explicitly backport them. If that changes in the future I will ensure that there are working versions on backports.org (bear in mind that the lenny-backports repository isn't open yet). I'll try and maintain documentation for use of the packages on etch and lenny at http://pkg-request-tracker.alioth.debian.org/. I'm currently deploying rt3.8 using the packages in experimental on etch, and will do so on lenny at some point after the release, so I'm aware of the need to make sure they're installable. Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 02:11:49PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: We are more or less finished with the virtual appliance, so the only open issue is the repository. (currently we use official Lenny and http://debian.etc.gen.nz for rt 3.8.1 but I am not sure if this will be maintained in the future). Sorry, I didn't fully read this section. If it's essential that you have a repository which is maintained for lenny during its lifetime in the long-term and suitable for being maintained for an appliance where there is no expert local admin, I would recommend maintaining your own repository based on the packages from Debian proper, but we can consider maintaining one on alioth.debian.org if that makes the most sense. Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
Martin Maurer wrote: Hi all, Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this? Give it time.. it only came out yesterday :) -- Kind Regards, __ Mike Peachey, IT Tel: +44 114 281 2655 Fax: +44 114 281 2951 Jennic Ltd, Furnival Street, Sheffield, S1 4QT, UK Comp Reg No: 3191371 - Registered In England http://www.jennic.com __ ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] RT 3.8.2 packages for Debian Lenny?
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 03:34:21PM +0100, Martin Maurer wrote: Andrew published well working Lenny packages for 3.8.1 (deb http://debian.etc.gen.nz http://debian.etc.gen.nz lenny rt), also similar packages are available in Debian experimental. As Debian Lenny is the next stable, where can I get packages for the latest RT 3.8.2? anybody working already on this? Yep - I hope to get packages uploaded to experimental (or possibly unstable - it won't be a candidate for lenny anyway due to the new package name) in the next few days. -- Dominic Hargreaves, Systems Development and Support Team Computing Services, University of Oxford ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
