Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Self, 1) Stoops has at the very least earned that contract. 2) If Satan gets the $1 more that his contract calls for after bringing the Red Stick Wackers back from the DeNoso days by winning the MNC, can you really say he doesn't deserve it? He has done a great job there, and he did a great job a Mich St beforehand to get the LousySt job and that contract. If Phony's contract, or Price's contract or CMS's contract called for it, and if any of them won the MNC (yes any of them) wouldn't they have deserved it given the place UA has been since Stallings retired? Wouldn't they have earned it? And do you doubt that there would be "money men" who would step up to pay the price of that contract to keep any of those 3 @ UA? Sadly, the day of the college coach is over. Now they are all in it for the and the big bucks are in the NFL. To keep a good or better college coach, the schools have to pony up the big bucks to compete with the desperate NFL teams (see Cleveland and UM Coach (errr?) Butch Davis). John At 22:10 09-12-03 Tuesday, Jeff Todd wrote: The title of Highest Paid Coach currently belongs to Bob Stoops at $2.5 million per year. That's $900k more that Saban currently earns. Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > Their boosters should take care of it. > Joe > "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of > making excuses." - George Washington. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > Wow!!! If I ever have to negotiate a contract, I want the > > lawyer who came up with that clause!! It really doesn't > > sound like much, just $1 more, but now that Saben is this > > close to collecting, I'll bet the LSU auditors are shaking > > in their boots knowing that they will have to fork over > > the cash if LSU wins. > > Jenny > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM > > Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > > > > > > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > > > > > > > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > > > > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is > > LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause > > requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid > > college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] > > > > > > kurt > > > > > > > > > __ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Instant Auburn Degrees
Someone did good http://hometown.aol.com/secondwomang/myhomepage/awbrindegree.jpg?mtbrand=AOL_US ROLL TIDE!! Rick __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Re: [BamaFans] Bowl Talk...
At 21:57 09-12-03 Tuesday, Rick McMahan wrote: Tennessees Peach Bowl appearance this season is its 44th, putting the Vols in second place Yeah but them slutonous cheats are gonna loose that game, even if my alma mater is gone all kinds a stupid and play the game in purple pants. Fsck it. I hate UcheaT and so should you! ($1 but not $10 to Krut!) John __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] U.S. Bars Iraq War Opponents From Bidding
Deere Canada, France and Germany: FUCK YOU ALL! Love, America PS FUCK YOU SOME MORE! BBBWWAAAA!!! -- U.S. Bars Iraq War Opponents From Bidding The Pentagon has formally barred companies from countries opposed to the Iraq war from bidding on $18.6 billion worth of reconstruction contracts. A directive from Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz limits bidders on those 26 contracts to firms from the United States, Iraq, their coalition partners and other countries which have sent troops to Iraq. The ruling bars companies from U.S. allies such as France, Germany and Canada from bidding on the contracts because their governments opposed the American-led war that ousted Saddam Hussein's regime. "If these comments are accurate ... it would be difficult for us to give further money for the reconstruction of Iraq," said Canada's deputy prime minister, John Manley. "To exclude Canadians just because they are Canadians would be unacceptable if they accept funds from Canadian taxpayers for the reconstruction of Iraq." Steven Hogue, a spokesman for Prime Minister Jean Chretien, said Canada has contributed more than $190 million to the rebuilding effort. The Wolfowitz memo, dated Friday and posted on a Pentagon web site Tuesday, says restricting contract bids "is necessary for the protection of the essential security interests of the United States." Bush administration officials have suggested publicly and privately since before the war started that countries which opposed the United States on Iraq would be cut out of at least some of the lucrative rebuilding contracts administered by Washington. The order from Wolfowitz covers contracts to manage the entire rebuilding effort, train and equip the Iraqi National Army and rebuild infrastructure including roads, sewers, power plants and oil fields. Wolfowitz wrote that the restrictions would encourage other countries to join the coalition in Iraq. A Pentagon spokesman, Maj. Joe Yoswa, said the order does not prohibit companies from the excluded countries from getting subcontracts in Iraq. Meanwhile, the Pentagon's top general said Tuesday the U.S. military will not be vulnerable when four of the Army's ten divisions come home from Iraq to rest and retrain early next year. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Richard Myers also asserted the U.S. is "clearly" winning in Iraq. Myers and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld cautioned, however, that a recent decline in anti-coalition attacks in Iraq may be temporary. "It's a bit early to call it a trend," Rumsfeld said, adding that he believes more attacks on American troops in Iraq are inevitable. They spoke on a day when suicide bombers set off explosions at the gates of two U.S. military bases, injuring scores of American troops, most of them slightly. The coalition is increasingly able to thwart such attacks before they happen, Myers said. "Our ability to gather intelligence and target specifically folks that are in the bomb-making business has gone up dramatically," Myers said. "We have had a real spike up in Iraqis coming forward to provide intelligence." "This international coalition is not going to let ... the former regime elements that are fighting us win," Myers said. "We're going to win. That's it." The defense secretary returned Sunday from a weeklong trip, which included stops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Rumsfeld and Myers said there are no plans to add to the 123,000 U.S. troops in Iraq or change the schedule for sending fresh troops in next year. That troop rotation will involve most of the Army: Four of the Army's ten divisions will be going home from Iraq, replaced by three divisions. Another Army division will rotate into Afghanistan. "In the next four months, we're going to pull off a logistics feat that will rival any in history," Myers said. Would the United States be ready to fight another war during or after that transition? "That's an unqualified yes," Myers said. Still, the Pentagon will carefully manage the rotations to minimize the damage from replacing experienced troops, Rumsfeld said. "The people going over are ready, but the people there are experienced and really know their stuff," Rumsfeld said. "There's going to have to be overlap. We're going to have to be sensitive to the fact that the knowledge that's built up there and the relationships have to be transferred." Rumsfeld denied reports that Israeli experts were training American or Iraqi units to battle insurgents in Iraq. Myers said an American unit was working to capture Saddam and others of the 55 most-wanted Iraqis. Myers also defended the arrest of the wife and daughter of Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, a former aide to Saddam Hussein who U.S. officials accuse of organizing anti-American attacks. The human rights group Amnesty International has said the arrests would violate international law if they were meant to pressure al-Douri into surrendering. "I'm sure
Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Dang man...that is some serious jack! Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > The title of Highest Paid Coach currently belongs to Bob Stoops at $2.5 > million per year. That's $900k more that Saban currently earns. > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > Their boosters should take care of it. > > Joe > > "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit > of > > making excuses." - George Washington. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > > > > Wow!!! If I ever have to negotiate a contract, I want the > > > lawyer who came up with that clause!! It really doesn't > > > sound like much, just $1 more, but now that Saben is this > > > close to collecting, I'll bet the LSU auditors are shaking > > > in their boots knowing that they will have to fork over > > > the cash if LSU wins. > > > Jenny > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM > > > Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > > > > > > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real > winner is > > > LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract > clause > > > requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the > highest-paid > > > college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. > [...] > > > > > > > > kurt > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit > > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
The title of Highest Paid Coach currently belongs to Bob Stoops at $2.5 million per year. That's $900k more that Saban currently earns. Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > Their boosters should take care of it. > Joe > "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of > making excuses." - George Washington. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > Wow!!! If I ever have to negotiate a contract, I want the > > lawyer who came up with that clause!! It really doesn't > > sound like much, just $1 more, but now that Saben is this > > close to collecting, I'll bet the LSU auditors are shaking > > in their boots knowing that they will have to fork over > > the cash if LSU wins. > > Jenny > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM > > Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > > > > > > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > > > > > > > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > > > > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is > > LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause > > requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid > > college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] > > > > > > kurt > > > > > > > > > __ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bowl Talk...
From Hurt's article: The last time that Alabama, Penn State and Notre Dame all missed out on a bowl game in the same season was 1958. Alabama continues to hold the NCAA record for bowl appearances with 51, despite its two-year absence. Tennessees Peach Bowl appearance this season is its 44th, putting the Vols in second place. Southern Cal, which has 26 bowl victories, can pull within two of Alabamas record total of 29 if it wins the Rose Bowl. http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031209/NEWS/312090352/1067 ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! Rick __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Their boosters should take care of it. Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "Jenny H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > Wow!!! If I ever have to negotiate a contract, I want the > lawyer who came up with that clause!! It really doesn't > sound like much, just $1 more, but now that Saben is this > close to collecting, I'll bet the LSU auditors are shaking > in their boots knowing that they will have to fork over > the cash if LSU wins. > Jenny > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM > Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > > > > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > > > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is > LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause > requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid > college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] > > > > kurt > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Good point. The Dems will never live that down. Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "tim ammons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > Not by absentee ballot in Florida!!! > > > Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Will: > > Do soldiers get to vote? > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Yates, QM1-William B" > To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List'" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:38 AM > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand > Report > > > > No it was for the morale of the military. If ya'll > have never been > over > > there. how can you really talk as if if it was > politcal. > > > > Will > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Baker, Lee > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:26 AM > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand > Report > > > > > > Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course > his visit was > political. > > Aren't they all? > > > > Lee > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand > Report > > > > > > I thought Hillary had no business being there at > all, unless she > visited as > > part of a congressional delegation or something. > > > > And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of > playing the > political > > moment. > > > > But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion > about "W" can > certainly > > stand on its own feet, right? > > > > That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and > them responding by > > bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw > Clinton like a > gun > > whenever a Republican leader is criticized. > Certainly, Clinton had > huge > > faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I > brought up > originally. > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Baker, Lee" > > > > > > > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's > visit as well? > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription > visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription > visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Well, he IS the president...that makes his trip a bit different, in and of itself. Plus the whole "hiding in the car" routine to lie to everyone...I don't know of any of the "other people visiting the area" who have done things like that. (Things, I reiterate, that were done to make a bigger political splash.) - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Also, I've heard a lot of "media types" critcize W on his visit, while not saying a word about other people visiting the area. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Just another shining example of 'media bias". Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report Also, I've heard a lot of "media types" critcize W on his visit, while not saying a word about other people visiting the area. Lee -Original Message- From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as part of a congressional delegation or something. And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political moment. But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly stand on its own feet, right? That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Yeah.Roy Moore for President, 2008! Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > Will, I'll bet you a case of beer that GWB doesn't make a surprise > Christmas Day appearance in Iraq. > > No doubt in my mind that GWB is Pro Military. But he's also a > PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN. Some people have street smarts, some have book > smarts, and a few like Krut and mySlef have both. But there's no one I > know of with more political smrats than GWB. Only Roy Moore comes close. > :) > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Yates, QM1-William B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:00 AM > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > > I still think he would have made the trip even if his approval rating > was > > 95%. Bush is Pro Military unlike "Slick Willy", and don't forget he is > The > > Commander and Chief of all US Armed Forces. > > > > Will > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:46 AM > > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > > > > Exactly. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > But I don't think GWB would have made the trip if the polls had > shown > > > him with an 85% approval rating. And I think that's kind of what > Jason > > > is trying to say in so many words. Nothing more, nothing less. > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription > visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Accrediting agency places Auburn University onprobation
Brings a tear to my eye. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kurt rasmussen Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:44 PM To: rtf Subject: [RollTideFan] Accrediting agency places Auburn University onprobation http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031209/APN/312090 985 Accrediting agency places Auburn University on probation The Associated Press December 09, 2003 Auburn University was placed on 12 months probation by an accrediting agency Tuesday after a two-year investigation into trustees' involvement in the school's daily affairs. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools handed down the sanction, which was one step short of revoking Auburn's accreditation. A loss of accreditation would have meant the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding. SACS does not release specific details of its report, instead listing only the requirements a school has failed to meet. The report noted five requirements Auburn fell short of, including administrative oversight of the athletics department by the school's chief executive officer. The report also said Auburn failed to meet a catch-all requirement that colleges cooperate with the accreditation process. Auburn released a short statement saying it was "disappointed and surprised" by the probation. The university emphasized that it remains fully accredited, and that students' financial aid is intact. "Auburn University will continue its strong pattern of progress and growth and increasing quality of programs, witnessed in recent years," the statement said. President William Walker declined comment. Trustee and state legislator Jack Venable said he had not seen the SACS ruling and declined comment. Trustee Jimmy Rane did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment. Though Walker and various trustees have been under fire recently for a secret football coach-hunting trip they took to Louisville, Ky., the problems cited by SACS related to a separate, earlier complaint. A group of faculty in April 2001 asked the agency to look into allegations that a small minority of trustees was micromanaging the university. Then-interim president Walker sued to block the investigation, and a federal judge eventually appointed Georgia attorney Richard Y. Bradley as an independent investigator. Bradley's first report in January 2003 found the trustees were complying with SACS standards. The agency asked him to conduct a more detailed report, which a judge sealed Sept. 8 because it included trustees' private financial records. A SACS commission decided to put Auburn on probation based on Bradley's reports. The commission will re-evaluate Auburn in December 2004, after the university submits a follow-up report and a SACS special committee visits the school. At that point, SACS could remove Auburn from probation, extend its probation or revoke its accreditation, said Jack Allen, associate executive director for the agency. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] PAGE 2's "REAL" BCS PLAYOFF
In that bracket you've got 6 2-loss teams, 5 3-loss teams and a 4-loss team. That's a sham that rewards mediocrity with second chance. Football is a tough sport, not a sport that's about second chances. Any "playoff" scenario this year that includes more than the 3 actual contenders isn't worth the paper that it's printed on, or in this case, the bandwidth that it consumes. Either win it on the field during the season, or quit whining about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] PAGE 2's "REAL" BCS PLAYOFF http://espn.go.com/page2/s/bracket/bcs.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
I'll "stipulate" that. I just don't want anyone to lose sight of the significance of his visit to the troops on the ground. Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > I see where you're coming from, Jason. > > Joe, I'm Pro Bush. (WORD!) I think what Bush did was absolutely gnarly! > But I don't think GWB would have made the trip if the polls had shown > him with an 85% approval rating. And I think that's kind of what Jason > is trying to say in so many words. Nothing more, nothing less. > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > > But my original point was please don't try to paint this as some > heroic, > > unselfish act that he undertook with no thought of himself. There was > a > > great deal of political hay to be made with that trip on that day, and > he > > made it. That's the way the world of politics work. > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Amoebae Baybee!! kurt Jeff Todd wrote: Let's say LSU wins. Saban becomes the highest paid college football coach. Now, what happens if another coach has a similar clause that guarantees he'll be the highest paid college coach? Sum Won is gonna get PAYED! Slef E. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Accrediting agency places Auburn University on probation
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031209/APN/312090985 Accrediting agency places Auburn University on probation The Associated Press December 09, 2003 Auburn University was placed on 12 months probation by an accrediting agency Tuesday after a two-year investigation into trustees' involvement in the school's daily affairs. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools handed down the sanction, which was one step short of revoking Auburn's accreditation. A loss of accreditation would have meant the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding. SACS does not release specific details of its report, instead listing only the requirements a school has failed to meet. The report noted five requirements Auburn fell short of, including administrative oversight of the athletics department by the school's chief executive officer. The report also said Auburn failed to meet a catch-all requirement that colleges cooperate with the accreditation process. Auburn released a short statement saying it was "disappointed and surprised" by the probation. The university emphasized that it remains fully accredited, and that students' financial aid is intact. "Auburn University will continue its strong pattern of progress and growth and increasing quality of programs, witnessed in recent years," the statement said. President William Walker declined comment. Trustee and state legislator Jack Venable said he had not seen the SACS ruling and declined comment. Trustee Jimmy Rane did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment. Though Walker and various trustees have been under fire recently for a secret football coach-hunting trip they took to Louisville, Ky., the problems cited by SACS related to a separate, earlier complaint. A group of faculty in April 2001 asked the agency to look into allegations that a small minority of trustees was micromanaging the university. Then-interim president Walker sued to block the investigation, and a federal judge eventually appointed Georgia attorney Richard Y. Bradley as an independent investigator. Bradley's first report in January 2003 found the trustees were complying with SACS standards. The agency asked him to conduct a more detailed report, which a judge sealed Sept. 8 because it included trustees' private financial records. A SACS commission decided to put Auburn on probation based on Bradley's reports. The commission will re-evaluate Auburn in December 2004, after the university submits a follow-up report and a SACS special committee visits the school. At that point, SACS could remove Auburn from probation, extend its probation or revoke its accreditation, said Jack Allen, associate executive director for the agency. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Let's say LSU wins. Saban becomes the highest paid college football coach. Now, what happens if another coach has a similar clause that guarantees he'll be the highest paid college coach? Sum Won is gonna get PAYED! Slef E. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] > > kurt > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Croom and MSU
Croom had to start somewhere. I'm glad MSU gave him a chance and I think he'll succeed. He's not going to have to do much to show an improvement over the last couple of years. Just putting a competitive team on the field would be a helluva an improvement. Slef E. - Original Message - From: "SecFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rtf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] Croom and MSU > It looks like the charges against MSU are pretty severe and could result in > some significant penalties. In light of that I'm kind of surprised Croom > took the job. It's got to be pretty hard to win there in the best of times. > > Charlie > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Croom and MSU
It looks like the charges against MSU are pretty severe and could result in some significant penalties. In light of that I'm kind of surprised Croom took the job. It's got to be pretty hard to win there in the best of times. Charlie __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] PAGE 2's "REAL" BCS PLAYOFF
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Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Wow!!! If I ever have to negotiate a contract, I want the lawyer who came up with that clause!! It really doesn't sound like much, just $1 more, but now that Saben is this close to collecting, I'll bet the LSU auditors are shaking in their boots knowing that they will have to fork over the cash if LSU wins. Jenny - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game > > Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html > > The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] > > kurt > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] COLLEGE FOOTBALL ROUNDUP BY BRENT BEAIRD
In this week's roundup, we take a look at the marquee game in the South between Georgia and LSU for the SEC title. We also review some of the team's waiting on bowl invitations and other schools who have ended their seasons. Verbal commitments are continuing to come in and coaching changes are plentiful. Enjoy another edition of the college football roundup. GEORGIA VS. LSU IN THE SEC TITLE GAME: The win over Georgia Tech gave the Bulldogs 10 wins for the second straight season. They are 23-3 in the past two seasons. Tailback Michael Cooper left the Tech game after an ankle injury. He is questionable for LSU. Cornerback Bruce Thornton sprained his right thumb, but he will play despite the injury and a case of the flu. Billy Bennett scored 10 points, giving him 392 in his career. Bryan McClendon blocked a punt. Georgia intercepted three passes. Tech ran 19 more plays and had 60 more yards. The Dawgs got to quarterback Reggie Ball forcing a pick and two fumbles before he left with a possible concussion before halftime. Bulldog running backs have one fumble this season. The running game had 106 yards on 38 carries (Kregg Lumpkin had 64 yards on 14 carries. David Greene was 16-of-22 for 235 yards and one score. Fred Gibson had three catches for 96 yards. Jeremy Thomas had five catches for 51 yards. The defense allowed 146 yards rus hing on 41 carries. Tech backup quarterback A. J. Suggs threw for 175 yards and two scores. Georgia has beaten Tech three straight times. Georgia can become the first SEC school to win consecutive SEC titles since Tennessee in 1997-98. Mark Richt said he had no interest in the Nebraska opening. Richt has a buyout of $8.4 million. Georgia athletic director Vince Dooley was hospitalized early Tuesday morning with a gastric ulcer. He went home Thursday. Guard Bartley Miller, who has missed the last three games with a sore shoulder, was expected to play, until he sprained his ankle Wednesday. He is doubtful for the game. The Tigers are No 1 in scoring defense allowing 10.5 ppg and Georgia is No. 2 allowing 11.8 ppg. LSU leads the SEC in rush defense, pass efficiency defense, total defense, net punting, punt return and pass efficiency. LSU is No. 2 nationally in total defense trailing only No. 1 Oklahoma and No. 3 in rush defense, trailing only Ohio State and Southern California. LSU leads the SEC averaging 35 points per game and Georgia is No. 7 scoring 27 points per game. Georgia leads the SEC in turnover margin and pass defense. LSU leads the SEC in sacks with 33 and Georgia has allowed more sacks than any SEC team with 38. LSU held Arkansas to 201 yards rushing, 40 below their average. Tiger coach Nick Saban wants to change the Arkansas game from a Friday to Saturday. E. J. Kuale, a junior college linebacker from Dodge City (Kan.) Community College had verbally committed to LSU. He is originally from Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland and signed with Georgia Tech in 2001 according to TigerBait.com. In the win over Arkansas, the Hogs scored more than 19 points against LSU, the first team to do so all season. Tiger quarterback Matt Mauck was 12-of-19 for 186 yards and four scores, tying his career high. Freshman tailback Justin Vincent rushed for 112 yards and two scores. LSU recovered three fumbles and picked off two passes by Corey Webster. Cedric Cobbs gained 169 yards including 112 in the first 17 minutes. Tiger defensive lineman Chad Lavalais has been named as the one of the finalists for the Outland Trophy. In the win over Georgia earlier in the season, receiver Michael Clayton, the leading re ceiver in the SEC with 69 catches for 960 yards and nine scores, caught only two passes for 23 yards because he was blanketed by Georgia cornerback Bruce Thornton. Saban is the first coach to win four straight years at LSU since Charlie McClendon, who had winning seasons in his final years from 1976-79. Only four players from former coach Gerry DiNardo's tenure played this year-tight end Eric Edwards, punter Donnie Jones, offensive tackle Rodney Reed and defensive tackle Bryce Wyatt. LSU's seven wins in the SEC were the most in school history. FLORIDA is bound for the Outback Bowl to play either Purdue or Iowa. Last year, Florida lost to Michigan in the Outback Bowl. Ciatrick Fason had 21 yards on eight carries and Ran Carton had 62 yards on 13 carries in the loss to FSU. Cornerback Keiwan Ratliff scored his fourth non-offensive touchdown of the season after he returned a Chris Rix 77 yards for a score. Chris Leak had a career-high 273 yards on 36 attempts. Ben Troupe caught four passes for 121 yards and two receptions. Jeremy Foley, the UF athletic director, asked SEC commissioner Mike Slive to call ACC commissioner John Swofford about the officiating in the FSU game. There were at least five plays involving possible fumbles in the game that went FSU's way that were controversial. Reserve quarterback Ingle Martin has been granted his release and will transfer to Furman,
[RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] "Was Sly Croom the best hire for State?"
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=2038&dept_id=334972&newsid=10634473&PAG=461&rfi=9 BETWEEN THE GOALPOSTS By: BUBBA BURNHAM, Sports Editor December 09, 2003 Was Sly Croom the best hire for State? Off for a week Being out of pocket and down for the eight-count for an entire week, I missed out on a couple of significant sports happenings during that stretch run. First, Mississippi State appeased the ever-obsessed politically correct media with the hiring of Sylvester Croom, a kind, gentle and likable black man who has spent almost his entire career as an NFL assistant. And secondly, the BCS imploded Sunday by omitting No. 1-ranked USC from its title game. That sounds like a bad script from Saturday Night Live. Unfortunately, it's the real deal. Was Croom the best hire? So MSU has hired Sly Croom to lead the 'Dogs once again out of the proverbial wilderness. With all due respect to Croom and his followers, his hiring was based on nothing except for the color of his skin. A white, Mexican or Chinese lifetime assistant in the NFL would probably not even have rated an interview with Bulldog Athletic Director Larry Templeton - and he had well over 100 inquiries. With his hiring, Croom found himself with no clue as to his offensive or defensive schemes at MSU. He finally explained that he would call the offensive plays and use Green Bay's offense. Croom also had put little thought into creating a coaching staff, and as late as Sunday was still coaching the Packers instead of hitting the high school recruiting trail. If I were a State fan, I would be furious about that. The 'Dogs are already chasing their tails and are far behind. Recruiting is at least half of the game in collegiate football, and Croom is a total stranger to it. Can Croom turn things around at MSU? That's debatable. Twice, MSU has made runs at respectability, and twice they ended in turmoil. Bob Tyler, in my opinion, was the best Bulldog coach over the past half-century. But Tyler got power-hungry and deemed himself bigger than the school. Rightfully so, he got the ax. And Jackie Sherrill, despite his many successes as the Maroon head knocker, left State as the 12th best team in the SEC and on the verge of anarchy and a prison sentence. To succeed, Croom will first have to bring the alumni together. There are plenty of MSU supporters who are still shaking their heads over his hiring. As a matter of fact, I have not yet talked to one Bulldog fan who thought Croom's hiring was the best State could do. The media, which have overplayed the race card once again, are the driving force that keeps dividing the races at every opportunity. By hiring Croom, you would have thought that Lee had just surrendered at Appomattox. There have been good black coaches around for generations. Bill Russell took over his beloved Boston Celtics as their manager in the late '60s. And it was for one reason only: He was the best fit to succeed Red Auerbach and the glorious Celtic tradition. Russell did just that - not because of his race but because of his basketball knowledge and Celtic connection. He was a true wizard. There have been black coaches in the SEC for a number of years. Ole Miss has had two in basketball, and powerhouse Kentucky has won a national title or two under Tubby Smith. Blacks can coach just as good as whites, so, to me, it's a slap in their face when their color is unfairly discussed. No mention has ever been made of a white coach - or player - in the Southwestern Athletic Conference - and rightfully so. Over the past 40 years, most of us have learned how to get along with each other, and there have been some wonderful friendships formed between the races. So let's please get off this black-white crap and hire the person who is best suited for the job. In my opinion, Mississippi State could've found someone who was a lot more qualified than Sly. No matter what color he is, Croom better win in the not-too-distant future. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] On second thought
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[RollTideFan] An Email from a Captain in Iraq
An Email from a Captain in Iraq We knew there was a dinner planned with ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the division weretasked with filling a few tables. Naturally, the 501st MI battalion got ourtable. Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-pony show, so we had to pick soldiers to attend. I chose not to go. But, about 1500 the G2, LTC Devan, came up to me and with a smile, asked me to come to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and bring a camera. I didn't really care about getting a picture with Sanchez or Bremer, but when the division's senior intelligence officer asks you to go, you go. We were seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for thanksgiving when all kinds of secret service guys showed up. That was my first clue, because Bremer's been here before and his personal security detachment is not that big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he welcomed ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and pulled out a piece of paper as if to give a speech. He mentioned that the President had given him this thanksgiving speech to give to the troops. He then paused and said that the senior man present should be the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez, who just smiled. Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more senior to read the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage netting, the President of the United States came around. The mess hall actually erupted with hollering. Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just began cheering with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was just unreal. I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also because I was only two tables away from the podium. There he stood, less than thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on. Soldiers were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There was not a dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I could clearly see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal moment I've had in years. Not since my wedding and Aaron being born. Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world, spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days before. Just to spend two hours with his troops. Only to get on a plane and spend another 17 hours flying back. It was a great moment, and I will never forget it. He delivered his speech, which we all loved, when he looked right at me and held his eyes on me. Then he stepped down and was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly worked his way all the way around the chow hall and shook every last hand extended. Every soldier who wanted a photo with the President got one. I made my way through the line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was still working the room. You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It wasn't just a photo opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He worked his way over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the room. Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a picture with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and Achmed Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice, who was there with him. I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to my table so I went back over to my seat. As he passed and posed for photos, he looked my in the eye and "How you doin', captain." I smiled and said "God bless you, sir." To which he responded "I'm proud of what you do, captain." Then moved on. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
yes they do, absentee ballot will -Original Message- From: Jeff Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:45 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report Will: Do soldiers get to vote? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Yates, QM1-William B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > No it was for the morale of the military. If ya'll have never been over > there. how can you really talk as if if it was politcal. > > Will > > -Original Message- > From: Baker, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:26 AM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course his visit was political. > Aren't they all? > > Lee > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as > part of a congressional delegation or something. > > And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political > moment. > > But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly > stand on its own feet, right? > > That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by > bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun > whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge > faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > > > Lee > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
You are exactly right. No matter what he does: cure cancer, save the world, take a dump... It's ALL for political gain. Unless he does something "bad" like mispronounce a word. Then he's just a moronic redneck who doesn't know SHIT about politics. Either way he's an ass. Damn!!!Too bad RoboGore didn't win the election. --- Jason Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your implication that if we haven't served in the > armed forces, we can't > have a legitimate on this issue is unfair, and > borders on being ridiculous. > I try my best to serve my country also, in different > ways, partially by > trying to do a good job as a journalist. > > I appreciate with all my heart all you and others > have done to serve our > country, and I'm sure that some portion of Bush's > trip was done to lift the > spirit of the troops, and if that worked, then > great. > > But my original point was please don't try to paint > this as some heroic, > unselfish act that he undertook with no thought of > himself. There was a > great deal of political hay to be made with that > trip on that day, and he > made it. That's the way the world of politics work. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First > Hand Report > > > > Yep. I totally agree. You see, as a War Veteran > with a Southwest Asia > > (that is the Persian Gulf to you civilian types) > Service Ribbon, I think > > that I am certainly qualified to an opinion here. > The fact that President > > Bush put his ass on the line to go serve the > troops Thanksgiving Dinner > > meant the world to them (the soldiers who are > protecting our right to > bitch > > about anything) has not yet been mentioned yet > befuddles me. The PFC > > pulling guard duty while the rest of his Company > catches some shut eye > cares > > very much that he (Bush) made the two hour trip, > even if some might think > > that it is just for political reasons. Who gives > a rat's ass about the > > political ramifications? NOT the soldiers who > swore to do their duty. > The > > Commander in Chief paid them a visit (and thank > GOD it wasn't Clinton) and > > that he did it in a war zone just makes it that > much sweeter. Those > > soldiers believe in what they are doing over > there. Soldiers are > different > > people. They believe in freedom (for everyone), > and they understand that > > Freedom is not free. > > > > If you have never sacrificed UNSELFISHLY a few > years of your life to serve > > in the Armed forces, then you just won't get it. > And I hate it for you. > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Not by absentee ballot in Florida!!! Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Will: Do soldiers get to vote? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Yates, QM1-William B" To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > No it was for the morale of the military. If ya'll have never been over > there. how can you really talk as if if it was politcal. > > Will > > -Original Message- > From: Baker, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:26 AM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course his visit was political. > Aren't they all? > > Lee > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as > part of a congressional delegation or something. > > And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political > moment. > > But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly > stand on its own feet, right? > > That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by > bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun > whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge > faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Baker, Lee" > > > > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > > > Lee > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Will: Do soldiers get to vote? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Yates, QM1-William B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > No it was for the morale of the military. If ya'll have never been over > there. how can you really talk as if if it was politcal. > > Will > > -Original Message- > From: Baker, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:26 AM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course his visit was political. > Aren't they all? > > Lee > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as > part of a congressional delegation or something. > > And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political > moment. > > But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly > stand on its own feet, right? > > That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by > bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun > whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge > faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > > > Lee > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Shelton named Player of the Week
TUSCALOOSA -- University of Alabama junior guard Earnest Shelton has been named the Southeastern Conference Player of the Week. It is the first time the Memphis native has won the honor. "It's an honor, and I'm thankful for it," said Shelton, a starter on the Crimson Tide men's basketball team who is also an Academic All-SEC player. "But mostly I thank my teammates for helping me get this because basically without their screens and them passing me the ball, this is something I would have never achieved. It's more of a team award than my award." Shelton's past week of basketball included scoring 22 points in Alabama' s December 3 win against Charlotte and 23 points in Saturday's win against Austin Peay. In fact, in three of his last four games, Shelton has scored 22 or more points as he had 28 points in Alabama's November 25 win against Southeastern Louisiana. He leads the Tide in scoring with 16.8 points a game, a jump from the 5.1 points a game he averaged last season. "I'm more aggressive than I was in the past," said Shelton who along with his teammates is stepping up his play to accommodate for the loss of four starters from Alabama's 2003 NCAA tournament team. "I got screens last year, but I'm getting a lot more screens this year. My teammates are really looking for me. They're basically counting on me to score considering everything we lost last year. We have to come in night after night and meet the challenge." Kenny Walker, one of those starters lost to graduation last season, was Alabama's last SEC Player of the Week. He won the award on December 30, 2002, the same week Alabama was ranked No. 1 in the national rankings. Shelton's award marks the tenth time an Alabama player has received the honor since the 1994-95 season and the 19th overall. He joins a list that includes: Terry Coner (1985 & 1986), Buck Johnson (1985), Derrick McKey (1986 & 1987), Michael Ansley (1989), Melvin Cheatum (1990), Latrell Sprewell (1992), James Robinson (1993), Brian Williams (1996, 1997 and 1999), Roy Rogers (1996), Eric Washington (1996), Rod Grizzard (2000), Gerald Wallace (2000), Erwin Dudley (2002) and Kenny Walker. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] MSU... More details
They already do. It's called The NFL, CFL, etc. Slef E. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] MSU... More details > Make the gifts legal and put em on salary. > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
From: Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some people have street smarts, some have book > smarts, and a few like Krut and mySlef have both. Don't ewe know it! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
No it was for the morale of the military. If ya'll have never been over there. how can you really talk as if if it was politcal. Will -Original Message- From: Baker, Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:26 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course his visit was political. Aren't they all? Lee -Original Message- From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as part of a congressional delegation or something. And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political moment. But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly stand on its own feet, right? That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Ozzy Osbourne Badly Injured in Crash in England
Ozzy bloody Ozzy! kurt > > From: Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/12/09 Tue AM 09:25:39 EST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [RollTideFan] Ozzy Osbourne Badly Injured in Crash in England > > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rocker Ozzy Osbourne underwent emergency surgery > at a hospital in Britain after suffering serious injuries in an > all-terrain vehicle crash on the grounds of his estate in > Buckinghamshire, his publicist said on Monday. > > > "During examination, doctors found that Ozzy had broken his collarbone, > six ribs and a vertebra in his neck," publicist Cindy Guagenti said in a > brief written statement, which added that the injuries were not > considered life threatening. > > > "Ozzy is currently undergoing emergency surgery to lift the collarbone > which is believed to be resting on a major artery interrupting blood > flow to his arm," Guagenti said in the statement. "Surgeons are also > working to alleviate some bleeding into his lungs." > > > The 55-year-old heavy metal rocker was injured while riding the > all-terrain vehicle during a day off from promoting his new single, a > duet with his daughter Kelly titled "Changes." > > > Local police said that a man had been injured after an accident on a > so-called quad bike but would not confirm that it was Osbourne -- who > stars with his wife Sharon and two of their children on the MTV reality > series "The Osbournes." > > > The Birmingham, England-born Osbourne first shot to fame as lead singer > of Black Sabbath. > > http://snurl.com/3c2f > > > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Also, I've heard a lot of "media types" critcize W on his visit, while not saying a word about other people visiting the area. Lee -Original Message- From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as part of a congressional delegation or something. And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political moment. But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly stand on its own feet, right? That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] MSU... More details
Make the gifts legal and put em on salary. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Just looking for consistency. As for W, of course his visit was political. Aren't they all? Lee -Original Message- From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:35 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report I thought Hillary had no business being there at all, unless she visited as part of a congressional delegation or something. And most certainly--she and Bill were the masters of playing the political moment. But again, why bring up the Clintons? A discussion about "W" can certainly stand on its own feet, right? That's like calling Auburn a bunch of cheaters and them responding by bringing up *our* probation. The Right seems to draw Clinton like a gun whenever a Republican leader is criticized. Certainly, Clinton had huge faults, but that's not remotely part of the issue I brought up originally. - Original Message - From: "Baker, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I assume you feel the same way aout Hillary's visit as well? > > Lee __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Baby you can drive my car..
From: Rick McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Will the hiring of Croom make a difference? I think it will. It's just a matter of how much. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Ozzy Osbourne Badly Injured in Crash in England
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rocker Ozzy Osbourne underwent emergency surgery at a hospital in Britain after suffering serious injuries in an all-terrain vehicle crash on the grounds of his estate in Buckinghamshire, his publicist said on Monday. "During examination, doctors found that Ozzy had broken his collarbone, six ribs and a vertebra in his neck," publicist Cindy Guagenti said in a brief written statement, which added that the injuries were not considered life threatening. "Ozzy is currently undergoing emergency surgery to lift the collarbone which is believed to be resting on a major artery interrupting blood flow to his arm," Guagenti said in the statement. "Surgeons are also working to alleviate some bleeding into his lungs." The 55-year-old heavy metal rocker was injured while riding the all-terrain vehicle during a day off from promoting his new single, a duet with his daughter Kelly titled "Changes." Local police said that a man had been injured after an accident on a so-called quad bike but would not confirm that it was Osbourne -- who stars with his wife Sharon and two of their children on the MTV reality series "The Osbournes." The Birmingham, England-born Osbourne first shot to fame as lead singer of Black Sabbath. http://snurl.com/3c2f __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Will, I'll bet you a case of beer that GWB doesn't make a surprise Christmas Day appearance in Iraq. No doubt in my mind that GWB is Pro Military. But he's also a PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN. Some people have street smarts, some have book smarts, and a few like Krut and mySlef have both. But there's no one I know of with more political smrats than GWB. Only Roy Moore comes close. :) Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Yates, QM1-William B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > I still think he would have made the trip even if his approval rating was > 95%. Bush is Pro Military unlike "Slick Willy", and don't forget he is The > Commander and Chief of all US Armed Forces. > > Will > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:46 AM > To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > Exactly. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > But I don't think GWB would have made the trip if the polls had shown > > him with an 85% approval rating. And I think that's kind of what Jason > > is trying to say in so many words. Nothing more, nothing less. > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
I still think he would have made the trip even if his approval rating was 95%. Bush is Pro Military unlike "Slick Willy", and don't forget he is The Commander and Chief of all US Armed Forces. Will -Original Message- From: Jason Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:46 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report Exactly. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But I don't think GWB would have made the trip if the polls had shown > him with an 85% approval rating. And I think that's kind of what Jason > is trying to say in so many words. Nothing more, nothing less. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Exactly. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But I don't think GWB would have made the trip if the polls had shown > him with an 85% approval rating. And I think that's kind of what Jason > is trying to say in so many words. Nothing more, nothing less. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] King Jackie Sez BS...
Wonder if they had any secret witnesses? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bama-Fans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] King Jackie Sez BS... > He said that the allegations against Sherrill are based on secondhand > information. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] King Jackie Sez BS...
Sherrill told The Associated Press that he was never made aware of the specific allegations against him when questioned by the NCAA. "There are some questions that were raised and my attorney has put them (the NCAA) on notice that when you send out stuff that is false in the official inquiry, then you should be held liable and accountable," Sherrill said. He and his attorney, Wayne Ferrell, said NCAA investigator Richard Johanningmeier acted unethically while conducting the 2 1/2-year investigation. "Yes, we think Johanningmeier twisted statements, manipulated statements," Ferrell said. He said that the allegations against Sherrill are based on secondhand information. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/1203/09sherrill.html ROLL TIDE! Rick __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
