[RollTideFan] Bama Related - Space Shuttle

2005-07-13 Thread sonja524
Not sure if you are aware, but the Pilot of the Space Shuttle Discovery that 
launches today, James Kelly, is an Alabama Grad.

Roll Tide, Jim.  Godspeed and a safe return.

Sonja 


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Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Related - Space Shuttle

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Was he a freshman when you were in law school?


ducking



--- Original Message ---On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 9:35:55 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if you are aware, but the Pilot of the Space Shuttle Discovery that launches today, James Kelly, is an Alabama Grad. Roll Tide, Jim.  Godspeed and a safe return. Sonja








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Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Related - Space Shuttle

2005-07-13 Thread atticusjd
Didn't know that. See, you taught me another thing Queen!

ScR

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Bama Related - Space Shuttle

Not sure if you are aware, but the Pilot of the Space Shuttle Discovery that 
launches today, James Kelly, is an Alabama Grad.

Roll Tide, Jim.  Godspeed and a safe return.

Sonja 


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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Related - Space Shuttle

2005-07-13 Thread sonja524
No, Mr. Smarty-Ass, but he is 10 days OLDER than me.  

Guess he's on the space flight for the eldery program with John Glenn.

Sonja



 
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 Date: 2005/07/13 Wed AM 10:03:28 EDT
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[RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Laborde
I've read the whining about the server. I've spent an assload of money on
different servers only to be kicked off without notice or reason (without a
refund), have shitty server performance, have my bandwidth requirements
throttled without notice, etc...

The list needs to reside on a server that uses CPanel software for domain and
file maintenance because that is the format that we've always used. This
includes MailMan mail  list software. All of out files are compatible with this
format only.The server also has to allow lists to be created which, believe it
or not, not all do. Some ignorant serve admins are so stupid that they set up
the software wrong and get hammered by e-mails once a list is used. They think I
am a spammer and jack me with no conversation. If the software is set up
correctly there are none of those issues.

What I am saying it that I have always tried to use the best server available
within our requirements and financial limitations. Some are better than others.

Now, since the vast, vast majority of people on this list only lurk (you suck!)
then i can't see any reason we can't allow pictures to be posted. We need only
GIF  JPEG/JPG images and NO MOVIES (of ANY kind) or WAV/sound files until we
see how this will work on out bandwidth.

As for HTML, knock your socks off until we see how it uses bandwidth.

I've asked for this before with almost no response, but here goes: If you want a
more reliable server then find it. Use the requirements listed above plus it
needs to be a UNIX server. Let us know what you find. Also, if you want to see
the message board resurrected, please volunteer to be the admin.


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[RollTideFan] Damn

2005-07-13 Thread kurtrasmussen
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/07/13/space.shuttle/index.html

Shuttle launch called off 
Fuel sensor delays liftoff
By Thom Patterson
CNN

Wednesday, July 13, 2005; Posted: 1:46 p.m. EDT (17:46 GMT) 

 KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Florida (CNN) -- NASA scrubbed the launch of the space 
shuttle Discovery on Wednesday because of a faulty fuel sensor.

It was unclear how long the problem would delay the launch, NASA officials said.
[...]

kurt



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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Jeff Todd
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Bamafan

That didn't take long to find. Of course it'll be an 
hour or more before anyone can read about it.

Slef E.

1:31 pm

- Original Message - 
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To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


I've asked for this before with almost no response, but 
here goes: If you want a
more reliable server then find it. Let us know what you 
find.






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Re: [RollTideFan] Damn

2005-07-13 Thread sonja524
I'd rather them delay the launch than send it up with questions about the fuel 
sensors.


Sonja

 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/07/13 Wed PM 01:58:40 EDT
 To: RTF@rolltidefan.net
 Subject: [RollTideFan] Damn
 
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/07/13/space.shuttle/index.html
 
 Shuttle launch called off 
 Fuel sensor delays liftoff
 By Thom Patterson
 CNN
 
 Wednesday, July 13, 2005; Posted: 1:46 p.m. EDT (17:46 GMT) 
 
  KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Florida (CNN) -- NASA scrubbed the launch of the space 
 shuttle Discovery on Wednesday because of a faulty fuel sensor.
 
 It was unclear how long the problem would delay the launch, NASA officials 
 said.
 [...]
 
 kurt
 
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Fine. Go for it. I'll shut this one down.

BTW, that is NOT a server. It is a service. If this is what y'all want then you
can have it. Hell, invite all the fuckin' redneck barners  Phat Phil, too.



--- Original Message ---
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:30:26 -0500, Jeff Todd wrote:
 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Bamafan

 That didn't take long to find. Of course it'll be an hour or more
 before anyone can read about it.

 Slef E.

 1:31 pm




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RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Charles
My sandbox list is *very* high traffic, about triple the traffic of this
list with HTML and many pictures.  During the busy times it's nothing to
have several hundred megs of traffic inbound a day (not counting the
resending that the list does to each member).  I tell you this because the
host for me is http://www.cmhe.net/ and they charge me $39 a month.  It is a
mailman based list.  If you want to talk requirements with their lead tech
contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and address it to the attention of Bill.  Tell him
I told you.  For the most part there are no problems, but sometimes messages
are delayed, usually to a jam up on the server end.  They usually respond
within 30 minutes to a problem.  I don't know what you pay for this list, so
that may be more expensive than you want.

Charles Mims
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Do what you know and perception is converted into character. - Ralph Waldo
Emerson
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:37 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan
Importance: High

I've read the whining about the server. I've spent an assload of money on 
different servers only to be kicked off without notice or reason (without a 
refund), have shitty server performance, have my bandwidth requirements 
throttled without notice, etc... 

The list needs to reside on a server that uses CPanel software for domain
and 
file maintenance because that is the format that we've always used. This 
includes MailMan mail  list software. All of out files are compatible with
this 
format only.The server also has to allow lists to be created which, believe
it 
or not, not all do. Some ignorant serve admins are so stupid that they set
up 
the software wrong and get hammered by e-mails once a list is used. They
think I 
am a spammer and jack me with no conversation. If the software is set up 
correctly there are none of those issues.

What I am saying it that I have always tried to use the best server
available 
within our requirements and financial limitations. Some are better than
others. 

Now, since the vast, vast majority of people on this list only lurk (you
suck!) 
then i can't see any reason we can't allow pictures to be posted. We need
only 
GIF  JPEG/JPG images and NO MOVIES (of ANY kind) or WAV/sound files until
we 
see how this will work on out bandwidth. 

As for HTML, knock your socks off until we see how it uses bandwidth.

I've asked for this before with almost no response, but here goes: If you
want a 
more reliable server then find it. Use the requirements listed above plus it

needs to be a UNIX server. Let us know what you find. Also, if you want to
see 
the message board resurrected, please volunteer to be the admin. 


Mike


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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread ronrice
Javvy - I still love you.

 
 From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/07/13 Wed PM 03:04:06 EDT
 To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
   RTF@rolltidefan.net
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan
 
 Fine. Go for it. I'll shut this one down.
 
 BTW, that is NOT a server. It is a service. If this is what y'all want then 
 you
 can have it. Hell, invite all the fuckin' redneck barners  Phat Phil, too.
 
 
 
 --- Original Message ---
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:30:26 -0500, Jeff Todd wrote:
  http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Bamafan
 
  That didn't take long to find. Of course it'll be an hour or more
  before anyone can read about it.
 
  Slef E.
 
  1:31 pm
 
 
 
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Jeff Todd

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


 Fine. Go for it. I'll shut this one down.

Knock yoreslef out.

 BTW, that is NOT a server.

No shit?

 It is a service.

It's also RELIABLE _and_ FREE!


 Hell, invite all the fuckin' redneck
 barners  Phat Phil, too.

Let's not get too carried away.

Why are you so bitter? What fuckin difference does it 
make if this group is hosted by a SERVICE, or a SERVER? 
Especially considering all the headaches the numerous 
servers have given you.

Slef E.







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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Jeff Todd
TRIPLE? That's the understatement of the century! It's 
more like 200-300 messages per day, or more, isn't it?

Slef E.

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To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List' RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:53 PM
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 My sandbox list is *very* high traffic, about triple 
 the traffic of this
 list with HTML and many pictures. 



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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Bitter? I don't think so. I am irritated because people piss  moan about
pictures  html and when I relent I get a smart-assed remark rather than
anything even remotely positive. Smart ass is funny sometimes. Sometimes it's
just smart-assed.

Also, I explained why we need to go to a certain software on a server. Do you
want to type 150 or more e-mail addresses into Google to get everyone signed up?
I'm not going to do it. Do you think that the majority of the membership will
even know how to sign up for Google, activate the membership, and use another
e-mail address to post, anyway? I seriously doubt it. Not that they post now,
mind you. Besides, while I use Google's search engine, I do NOT trust them in
the least for anything else.





--- Original Message ---
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:12:06 -0500, Jeff Todd wrote:


 Why are you so bitter? What fuckin difference does it make if this
 group is hosted by a SERVICE, or a SERVER? Especially considering
 all the headaches the numerous servers have given you.



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RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Charles
Ok, yes, it's understated. :)  We've been running about 150 a day for
several months, but it has been as high as 500 per day.

Charles
http://www.the-sandbox.org fun, friendly debate and talk about life.

 

When I was here, all I could think of was being there. When I was there, all
I could think of was getting back.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:14 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

TRIPLE? That's the understatement of the century! It's 
more like 200-300 messages per day, or more, isn't it?

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List' RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


 My sandbox list is *very* high traffic, about triple 
 the traffic of this
 list with HTML and many pictures. 



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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Goodson
Thank you vera, vera mush Mr. Lombard sir for providing us with the RTF 
list.  Personally, I have forsaken all other lists but this one.


Ok, enough sucking up.  I'll ask around Dothan with Graceba, Veriquick and 
Cyber-South to see what they have to offer.


Joe
You cannot have a proud and chivalrous spirit if your conduct is mean and 
paltry; for whatever a man's actions are, such must be his spirit.

Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC), Third Olynthiac
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List 
RTF@rolltidefan.net

Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


I've read the whining about the server. I've spent an assload of money on
different servers only to be kicked off without notice or reason (without a
refund), have shitty server performance, have my bandwidth requirements
throttled without notice, etc...

The list needs to reside on a server that uses CPanel software for domain 
and

file maintenance because that is the format that we've always used. This
includes MailMan mail  list software. All of out files are compatible with 
this
format only.The server also has to allow lists to be created which, believe 
it
or not, not all do. Some ignorant serve admins are so stupid that they set 
up
the software wrong and get hammered by e-mails once a list is used. They 
think I

am a spammer and jack me with no conversation. If the software is set up
correctly there are none of those issues.

What I am saying it that I have always tried to use the best server 
available
within our requirements and financial limitations. Some are better than 
others.


Now, since the vast, vast majority of people on this list only lurk (you 
suck!)
then i can't see any reason we can't allow pictures to be posted. We need 
only
GIF  JPEG/JPG images and NO MOVIES (of ANY kind) or WAV/sound files until 
we

see how this will work on out bandwidth.

As for HTML, knock your socks off until we see how it uses bandwidth.

I've asked for this before with almost no response, but here goes: If you 
want a

more reliable server then find it. Use the requirements listed above plus it
needs to be a UNIX server. Let us know what you find. Also, if you want to 
see

the message board resurrected, please volunteer to be the admin.


Mike


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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Joe Goodson
Whoa...we don't need no stinkin barners or those elitest terd heads at 
bama fan on RTF.  I like it just the way it is..except for the lag of 
course.  But I digress.

Joe
It is a denial of justice not to stretch out a helping hand to the fallen; 
that is the common right of humanity.

Seneca
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:04 PM
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Fine. Go for it. I'll shut this one down.

BTW, that is NOT a server. It is a service. If this is what y'all want then 
you

can have it. Hell, invite all the fuckin' redneck barners  Phat Phil, too.



--- Original Message ---
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:30:26 -0500, Jeff Todd wrote:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Bamafan

That didn't take long to find. Of course it'll be an hour or more
before anyone can read about it.

Slef E.

1:31 pm





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Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Jeff Todd

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


 Do you want to type 150 or more e-mail addresses
 into Google to get everyone signed up?

It ain't like I'm tied up selling Tupperware, or 
anything. Sure, I'll do it.

 Do you think that the majority of the membership will
 even know how to sign up for Google, activate
 the membership, and use another e-mail address to
 post, anyway?

All those with half a fuckin brain will. I don't really 
give a rip about the tards. Maybe they won't find us.

  while I use Google's search engine, I do NOT trust 
 them in
  the least for anything else.

I ain't got nothing to hide.

Slef E.






--- Original Message ---
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:12:06 -0500, Jeff Todd wrote:


 Why are you so bitter? What fuckin difference does it 
 make if this
 group is hosted by a SERVICE, or a SERVER? Especially 
 considering
 all the headaches the numerous servers have given you.



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[RollTideFan] Instant Replay

2005-07-13 Thread Rick McMahan
I believe it was Joe who asked the instant replay question a couple days 
ago. Here is the rules that the Big 10 used in 2004 and the SEC has 
adopted it for this season ...


~~~
Only the replay official can stop play to review a call. All calls are 
reviewed by a replay official from the press box. If a play is in 
question, the replay official alerts the officials on the field and play 
is stopped. The replay official watches angles provided by the 
television coverage for that game. Calls involving clock and/or game 
management cannot be reviewed even if noticed by the replay official. 
Instant replay is used in all conference games. In non-conference games, 
the visiting team must agree to use the replay or it will not be 
available. The types of plays that are reviewable include plays that are 
governed by the sideline, goal line, end zone and end line, passing 
plays, and other detectable infractions, such as forward progress with 
respect to first down.


Also...

Instant replay was used in 28 of 57 potential games last season, and 
referees overturned 21 of 43 disputed calls. The average game time 
increased by only three minutes from 2003, to 3 hours, 16 minutes.

~~~

So there you have it.

Roll Tide!
Rick




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