RE: [RollTideFan] DAMN INDIANA WIND!!

2005-08-13 Thread Bryan Benefield
It's that damn INDIANa name. Call Miles Brand!

--- kurt rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did it tump over your trailer too?
 
 Nah.  I got it secured to some trees with a couple
 of come-alongs.
 
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Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-13 Thread Bryan Benefield
Serves you right fer buyin' it off'n a volunqueer...

--- Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Damn!  Don't they have needle and thread up there? 
 You got my sympathies.
 Joe
 
 In the End, we will remember not the words of our
 enemies, but the silence of our friends. 
 - Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968) 
   - Original Message - 
   From: kurt rasmussen 
   To: RTF@rolltidefan.net 
   Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:17 PM
   Subject: [RollTideFan] Before and After..
 
 
Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud
 and brave.  For nearly six Fortnights.  The winds
 outta the North blew and blew.  Relentless
 tormentors they were...
 
   Today, they broke her back.
 
   Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo
 Indiana that would do such to a shrine of mine.
 
   In South Bend they are..
 
   Before.
 
 
   After.
 
 
 
   Damn domers.
 
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[RollTideFan] Will It Ever Stop????

2005-08-13 Thread JVWatts

From The Anniston Star


Animal-rights group moves to stop JSU from using
'Gamecocks' nickname

By Ben Cunningham
Star Staff Writer
08-13-2005

What do chickens and Chippewas have in common?

Both have groups of people that want them kept out of
college football stadiums and basketball arenas – more
specifically, off the players’ jerseys and the school
walls.

For the second time in four years, the animal-rights
group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has
asked the National Collegiate Athletic Association to
stop Jacksonville State University and the University
of South Carolina from using the nickname “Gamecocks”
because it supposedly promotes the sport of
cockfighting.

The request, in the form of a letter mailed Wednesday
to NCAA President Myles Brand, came hot on the heels
of the NCAA’s decision last week to ban college teams
from using “hostile or abusive” nicknames for their
sports teams in postseason play. That ban was aimed
squarely at schools whose teams use names based on
American Indians, such as Central Michigan
University’s Chippewas. The move has put many fans on
the warpath.

Now PETA has stepped into the ring.

PETA campaign manager Dan Shannon said the decision on
Indians spurred his organization to charge for the
chicken change now.

“The fact is that cockfighting is illegal in 48 states
and is hideously cruel,” Shannon said.

The sport, in which two specially bred roosters square
off in a fight to the death, is illegal in both
Alabama and South Carolina. Here, cockfighting or
operating a “cock pit” is a misdemeanor punishable by
a fine of $20-$50.

Aside from being illegal, the sport is cruel, Shannon
said, because it almost always ends with the death of
at least one of the animals.

The Gamecocks are having none of it. JSU president
Bill Meehan said Friday the school doesn’t support
cockfighting, but he has no plans to change the
school’s nickname and doesn’t want to get into a
debate with PETA over the matter.

“It’s a non-issue,” Meehan said. “I wouldn’t want to
see us change.”

E.C. “Baldy’ Wilson doesn’t want to see it change
either. He was a member of the Jacksonville State
Teacher’s College football squad in 1946, and a
veteran just back from the war in Europe.

That was the year players voted to change the name to
“Gamecocks” from “Eagle Owls” – a predatory bird found
in Scandinavia and northern Asia.

“We’d go places and … people would say, ‘What is an
eagle owl?’” said Wilson, now 82 and still a supporter
of the football program.

In picking a replacement, the players went with
something more familiar.

“Back in the old days everybody had a yard full of
chickens,” Wilson said. Nobody connected with the team
actually fought birds at cockfights, as he remembers
it, but the young men admired roosters.

“They’re pretty and they’re proud,” Wilson said. “They
have a lot of pride and they’ll fight to defend their
turf.”

Shannon says that PETA has no problem with teams
naming themselves after other animals, such as tigers
or bears. Those names honor the nobility and majesty
of the animals he said.

“Gamecocks is the only nickname that promotes
cruelty,” Shannon said. For JSU to call its teams the
“Gamecocks” is tantamount to calling them the
“Wifebeaters” or the “Looters,” or other illegal
activities, according to the PETA letter.

In 2001, PETA asked both JSU and USC directly to
change the names, and received “polite responses” from
both schools declining to do so.

Shannon said the organization still is waiting for a
response from the NCAA on its latest request.

In the meantime, JSU appears prepared to defend its
turf. After all, the school this summer installed new
artificial turf at its football stadium, emblazoned
with a picture of a fighting rooster at midfield and
the word “Gamecocks” in huge letters in each end zone.

Meehan called PETA a “good” organization” that has
chosen the “wrong focus” with the mascot issue.

He expects that when classes begin Aug. 31 and the
football team kicks off Sept. 1, most students on
campus will rally behind the Gamecocks, much as they
did in 2001.

“If they did anything they did help solidify our
identity then,” Meehan said.


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Re: [RollTideFan] For The First Time In My Life

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson
Since my Trans Am only gets 10 MPG (as long as I can keep my foot out of it) 
and it only takes premium.I think that I will not be driving it more 
than once a week just to keep it loose.  If I get game tickets this year, I 
might drive it to Tuscaloosa if I have a few friends to help with the gas. 
It cost me $75 the last time I took it.


Will it ever end?

Joe

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.

James Madison
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From: JVWatts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RT  Roll Tide Fan List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] For The First Time In My Life


I saw regular gas @ 2.50 a gallongranted it was BP but the others won't 
be far behindI wonder if YUGO's can still be found


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Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson

Maybe this will help.

http://www.gametimeusa.com/alcrtinc3x5o.html

As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to 
have a property in his rights.

James Madison
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From: Bryan Benefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List 
RTF@rolltidefan.net

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Before and After..



Serves you right fer buyin' it off'n a volunqueer...

--- Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Damn!  Don't they have needle and thread up there?
You got my sympathies.
Joe

In the End, we will remember not the words of our
enemies, but the silence of our friends.
- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
  - Original Message - 
  From: kurt rasmussen

  To: RTF@rolltidefan.net
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:17 PM
  Subject: [RollTideFan] Before and After..


   Like a MIGHTY COLOSSUS OF YORE, she flew proud
and brave.  For nearly six Fortnights.  The winds
outta the North blew and blew.  Relentless
tormentors they were...

  Today, they broke her back.

  Ain't but one place directly north of Kokomo
Indiana that would do such to a shrine of mine.

  In South Bend they are..

  Before.


  After.



  Damn domers.

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[RollTideFan] Bama Fan

2005-08-13 Thread 1tide1
A good little Auburn story.
An Auburn University family of football supporters head out one
Saturday to do their Christmas shopping. While in the sports shop the
son picks up an Alabama jersey and says to his older sister, I've
decided to become an Alabama fan and I would like this for Christmas.
His big sister is outraged by this and promptly whacks him round the
head and says, Go talk to mother.
Off goes the little lad with the Alabama jersey in hand and finds his
mother. Mom?
Yes son?
I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I would like this
jersey for Christmas.
The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him around the head and
says, Go talk to your father!
Off he goes with the Alabama Jersey in hand and finds his father. Dad?
Yes son?
I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I would like this
jersey for Christmas.
The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son around the head and
says, No son of mine is ever going to be seen in THAT!
About half an hour later they're all back in the car and heading towards
home. The father turns to his son and says Son, I hope you've learned
something today?
The son says, Yes, Dad, I have.
Good son, what is it?
 
The son replies, I've only been an Alabama fan for an hour and I already
hate you Auburn bastards.



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[RollTideFan] Fw: HOME REMEDIES

2005-08-13 Thread Joe Goodson




As a man is said to have a right to his 
property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. James 
Madison
- Original Message - 
From: Buddy  
Delayne Pitman 
To: anita givens ; Celeste 
Conner ; Danny 
Givens ; David Brady ; Earl Gray 
Pitman, III ; Eddie Dodd ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Jean 
Craddock ; Joe Goodson ; Karen 
Futral ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Nancy  Ed 
Miller ; Pamela 
Brown ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Robert Thompson ; Roy Harris 
Riley ; Roy 
Strickland ; Scott Riley ; willbro3 ; Woody 
Watters 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: HOME REMEDIES

 

AMAZINGLY SIMPLE HOME REMEDIES1. If you are choking on an ice 
cube, don't panic.Simply pour a cup of boiling water down your throat and 
presto. The blockage will be almost instantly removed.2. Clumsy? Avoid 
cutting yourself while slicingvegetables by getting someone else to hold 
them while you chop away.3. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting 
the toilet seat by simply using the sink.4. For high blood pressure 
sufferers: simply cutyourself and bleed for a few minutes, thus reducing the 
pressure in your veins. Remember to use a timer.5. A mouse trap, placed 
on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to 
sleep after you hit the snooze button.6. If you have a bad cough, take a 
large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough.7. Have a bad 
toothache? Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will forget about the 
toothache.Sometimes, we just need to remember what the rules of life 
really are:You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the 
WD-40.If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct 
tape.Remember:Everyone seems normal until you get to know 
them.Never pass up an opportunity to go to the bathroom.If you 
woke up breathing, congratulations! You get another chance.And finally, 
be really nice to your family and friends; you never know when you might need 
them to empty your 
bedpan.
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[RollTideFan] the insanity continues

2005-08-13 Thread Charles








Look especially
at the last few paragraphs about PETAs concerns.



Schools
consider appeals to NCAA

By Steve
Wieberg and Eddie Timanus, USA
TODAY

As Florida State moved Wednesday to protect its
Seminoles name and symbols, at least two other Division I schools
affected by new NCAA restrictions on the use of Native American imagery weighed
appeals.

Neither Utah, which derives its nickname from the local Ute
tribe, nor Central Michigan, which calls its
teams the Chippewas, has taken formal action. But officials foresee challenging
an NCAA ruling that their Indian references and images are offensive.



We're
still a little surprised at how this all came out and how the NCAA described
what we do (in using the Ute as a symbol), Utah athletics director Chris Hill said.
We know we have the support of the Ute Nation, and we anticipate that we
will appeal.



Said Central Michigan spokesman Steve Smith, All
indications are we will file an appeal.



Other Division
I schools  Alcorn State (Braves), Arkansas
State (Indians), Bradley (Braves), Illinois (Fighting
Illini) and Louisiana-Monroe (Indians)  have not decided on a course of
action. Nor has Division II North Dakota (the Fighting Sioux), which plays
Division I hockey and is scheduled to host an NCAA regional next March. The
NCAA will prohibit any school not complying with its mascot guidelines from
hosting any association-sponsored postseason events.



Meanwhile, Rep.
Tom Feeney,R-Fla., who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, said his office
will push the NCAA to reconsider and, if rebuked, he'll seek legislative
relief. That, the Orlando
lawmaker said, could be an amendment to antitrust laws to specifically
prohibit what the NCAA has done. ... They have the right to promulgate
reasonable rules, but they don't have the right to promulgate unreasonable
rules. Effectively, they're restraining in this case the right of Florida State
students and Florida State athletes and Florida State
supporters to participate in and support postseason play.



Feeney also
criticized the new NCAA guidelines as restrictions on free speech and an
infringement on colleges' autonomy.



FSU athletics
director Dave Hart Jr. was critical of what he called the stealth
nature of the NCAA process. FSU and other schools, he charged, were kept
in the dark. Though targeted schools were ordered by the NCAA to conduct and
share self-reviews of nicknames and mascots, Hart said school and Seminole
Tribe of Florida officials should have been invited to testify before the
executive committee.



NCAA President
Myles Brand said he called Hart 24 hours before the vote and told him
that this is the issue on the table; I don't know which way the vote's going to
go.



Why not the
Irish? The NCAA says it has never questioned Notre Dame's Fighting Irish
nickname or leprechaun mascot because it hasn't received a formal complaint. 



We have
not gotten information from any group that represents Irish or (anyone of)
Irish ancestry ... that they believe that image is hostile and/or
abusive, said Charlotte Westerhaus, NCAA vice president for diversity and
inclusion. On the other hand, we had a lot of input from Native American
tribes across the country that they believe the imagery at Florida State
and other schools is (offensive).



Feeney raised
the Irish question Wednesday. There's no end to this, he said.
I happen to be an American of Irish descent. Should I be outraged at the
notion that the Fighting Irish suggest a brawling, half-drunken Irishman? How
about the Holy Cross Crusaders? Should every American Muslim be outraged at the
thousands upon thousands of Muslims and atheists and non-Christians who
perished during the Crusades? ... I really believe the NCAA is imposing the
thought police on sports teams.



Six Division II
and III schools use Fighting Scots: Edinboro (Pa.),
Ohio Valley
(W.Va.), Wooster
(Ohio), Monmouth (Ill.),
Gordon (Mass.) and Maryville
(Tenn.). Two
use Scots: Macalester (Minn.) and Alma (Mich.). 



PETA weighs in:
The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a
letter to Brand on Wednesday asking the NCAA to stop South
 Carolina and Jacksonville (Ala.) State from using
the nickname Gamecocks.



The letter, a
copy of which was given to USA TODAY by PETA, says Gamecocks are named
after the birds used in cockfighting, a hideous 'blood sport' that, like
spousal abuse, bank robbery and driving while intoxicated, is illegal in both
South Carolina and Alabama.



Said Feeney:
For once, I believe that PETA, at least on the level of logic, is
correct. If the NCAA has to protect offended Native Americans ... by God, PETA
ought to advocate for the protection of every organism in the animal
kingdom.



Contributing:
Andy Gardiner, wires



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[RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
I've lost the e-mail with the web host info. Can you resend it, please?

Thanks!



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RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
http://bluenorthhosting.com/ is the URL.  The guy in charge is Bill R.  He
is really a hands on kind of guy.  It's a small outfit so your plan will be
customized for what you need.  That's why there are no rates listed.  He
listens to what you need and tailors the rate to meet those needs.  And what
is relevant for your purposes is that he is extremely familiar with mailman
and the problems it causes on a server and knows how to set it up correctly
to keep them from happening.


Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
Consider the past and you shall know the future. -  Chinese Proverb
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:11 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

I've lost the e-mail with the web host info. Can you resend it, please?

Thanks!



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Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Fan

2005-08-13 Thread Steven Johnson
Good one.  :-)

RTR
LC

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A good little Auburn story.
 An Auburn University family of football supporters
 head out one
 Saturday to do their Christmas shopping. While in
 the sports shop the
 son picks up an Alabama jersey and says to his older
 sister, I've
 decided to become an Alabama fan and I would like
 this for Christmas.
 His big sister is outraged by this and promptly
 whacks him round the
 head and says, Go talk to mother.
 Off goes the little lad with the Alabama jersey in
 hand and finds his
 mother. Mom?
 Yes son?
 I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I
 would like this
 jersey for Christmas.
 The mother is outraged at this, promptly whacks him
 around the head and
 says, Go talk to your father!
 Off he goes with the Alabama Jersey in hand and
 finds his father. Dad?
 Yes son?
 I've decided I'm going to be an Alabama fan and I
 would like this
 jersey for Christmas.
 The father is outraged and promptly whacks his son
 around the head and
 says, No son of mine is ever going to be seen in
 THAT!
 About half an hour later they're all back in the car
 and heading towards
 home. The father turns to his son and says Son, I
 hope you've learned
 something today?
 The son says, Yes, Dad, I have.
 Good son, what is it?
  
 The son replies, I've only been an Alabama fan for
 an hour and I already
 hate you Auburn bastards.
 
 
 
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[RollTideFan] Hey Jeff

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
You have mail.






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[RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Laborde
Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.

I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls.

Have a good season  RTR!







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Re: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Rick McMahan
Leave it online for a day or so, Mike, and lets see how many people 
respond and say they care. Seriously.


Rick

Mike Laborde wrote:
Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to 
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.


I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls. 


Have a good season  RTR!





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RE: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
That's a shame.


Charles Mims
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Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem.  You have a
perception problem.
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out
to 
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.

I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more
walls. 

Have a good season  RTR!







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RE: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Devonna Snuggs


I care!!! I am sad!! -Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Behalf Of 
Rick McMahanSent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:35 PMTo: RollTideFan - 
University of Alabama Athletics Discussion ListSubject: Re: [RollTideFan] 
Goodbye Bama FansLeave it online for a day or so, Mike, and lets see 
how many people respond and say they care. 
Seriously.RickMike Laborde wrote: Due to increasing 
costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out to  me in no 
uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.  I've got 
to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more walls.  
 Have a good season  RTR!  
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