[RollTideFan] the insanity continues

2005-08-13 Thread Charles








Look especially
at the last few paragraphs about PETAs concerns.



Schools
consider appeals to NCAA

By Steve
Wieberg and Eddie Timanus, USA
TODAY

As Florida State moved Wednesday to protect its
Seminoles name and symbols, at least two other Division I schools
affected by new NCAA restrictions on the use of Native American imagery weighed
appeals.

Neither Utah, which derives its nickname from the local Ute
tribe, nor Central Michigan, which calls its
teams the Chippewas, has taken formal action. But officials foresee challenging
an NCAA ruling that their Indian references and images are offensive.



We're
still a little surprised at how this all came out and how the NCAA described
what we do (in using the Ute as a symbol), Utah athletics director Chris Hill said.
We know we have the support of the Ute Nation, and we anticipate that we
will appeal.



Said Central Michigan spokesman Steve Smith, All
indications are we will file an appeal.



Other Division
I schools  Alcorn State (Braves), Arkansas
State (Indians), Bradley (Braves), Illinois (Fighting
Illini) and Louisiana-Monroe (Indians)  have not decided on a course of
action. Nor has Division II North Dakota (the Fighting Sioux), which plays
Division I hockey and is scheduled to host an NCAA regional next March. The
NCAA will prohibit any school not complying with its mascot guidelines from
hosting any association-sponsored postseason events.



Meanwhile, Rep.
Tom Feeney,R-Fla., who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, said his office
will push the NCAA to reconsider and, if rebuked, he'll seek legislative
relief. That, the Orlando
lawmaker said, could be an amendment to antitrust laws to specifically
prohibit what the NCAA has done. ... They have the right to promulgate
reasonable rules, but they don't have the right to promulgate unreasonable
rules. Effectively, they're restraining in this case the right of Florida State
students and Florida State athletes and Florida State
supporters to participate in and support postseason play.



Feeney also
criticized the new NCAA guidelines as restrictions on free speech and an
infringement on colleges' autonomy.



FSU athletics
director Dave Hart Jr. was critical of what he called the stealth
nature of the NCAA process. FSU and other schools, he charged, were kept
in the dark. Though targeted schools were ordered by the NCAA to conduct and
share self-reviews of nicknames and mascots, Hart said school and Seminole
Tribe of Florida officials should have been invited to testify before the
executive committee.



NCAA President
Myles Brand said he called Hart 24 hours before the vote and told him
that this is the issue on the table; I don't know which way the vote's going to
go.



Why not the
Irish? The NCAA says it has never questioned Notre Dame's Fighting Irish
nickname or leprechaun mascot because it hasn't received a formal complaint. 



We have
not gotten information from any group that represents Irish or (anyone of)
Irish ancestry ... that they believe that image is hostile and/or
abusive, said Charlotte Westerhaus, NCAA vice president for diversity and
inclusion. On the other hand, we had a lot of input from Native American
tribes across the country that they believe the imagery at Florida State
and other schools is (offensive).



Feeney raised
the Irish question Wednesday. There's no end to this, he said.
I happen to be an American of Irish descent. Should I be outraged at the
notion that the Fighting Irish suggest a brawling, half-drunken Irishman? How
about the Holy Cross Crusaders? Should every American Muslim be outraged at the
thousands upon thousands of Muslims and atheists and non-Christians who
perished during the Crusades? ... I really believe the NCAA is imposing the
thought police on sports teams.



Six Division II
and III schools use Fighting Scots: Edinboro (Pa.),
Ohio Valley
(W.Va.), Wooster
(Ohio), Monmouth (Ill.),
Gordon (Mass.) and Maryville
(Tenn.). Two
use Scots: Macalester (Minn.) and Alma (Mich.). 



PETA weighs in:
The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a
letter to Brand on Wednesday asking the NCAA to stop South
 Carolina and Jacksonville (Ala.) State from using
the nickname Gamecocks.



The letter, a
copy of which was given to USA TODAY by PETA, says Gamecocks are named
after the birds used in cockfighting, a hideous 'blood sport' that, like
spousal abuse, bank robbery and driving while intoxicated, is illegal in both
South Carolina and Alabama.



Said Feeney:
For once, I believe that PETA, at least on the level of logic, is
correct. If the NCAA has to protect offended Native Americans ... by God, PETA
ought to advocate for the protection of every organism in the animal
kingdom.



Contributing:
Andy Gardiner, wires



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RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Charles!

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
http://bluenorthhosting.com/ is the URL.  The guy in charge is Bill R.  He
is really a hands on kind of guy.  It's a small outfit so your plan will be
customized for what you need.  That's why there are no rates listed.  He
listens to what you need and tailors the rate to meet those needs.  And what
is relevant for your purposes is that he is extremely familiar with mailman
and the problems it causes on a server and knows how to set it up correctly
to keep them from happening.


Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
Consider the past and you shall know the future. -  Chinese Proverb
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I've lost the e-mail with the web host info. Can you resend it, please?

Thanks!



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RE: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

2005-08-13 Thread Charles
That's a shame.


Charles Mims
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Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem.  You have a
perception problem.
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Goodbye Bama Fans

Due to increasing costs and a severe lack of interest (which was pointed out
to 
me in no uncertain terms) RTF will go offline today sometime.

I've got to let my forehead heal before I can beat it against any more
walls. 

Have a good season  RTR!







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[RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread Charles








Im
searching for a news story on this. I heard it on my local morning news, but havent
found anything I can forward yet. But the story goes like this. U Georgia is
playing Boise State in the opener. One of the kids
from Boise has a father in Iraq. GA fans
found out about it and paid for the man to come home to see his kid play, but the
NCAA ruled that makes the GA fans Boise
boosters and the gift is disallowed. So the guy cant come home.



This is just
ridiculous. I heard an NCAA fan say on fox news yesterday that
if member schools dont agree with NCAA rulings they are free to pull
out. Well, maybe thats just what needs to be done.



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RE: [RollTideFan] NCAA's Stupidty continues...

2005-08-12 Thread Charles

It's absolutely ludicrous.  It seems that any last vestiges of common sense
have been eradicated from the NCAA.  I think it's time for some major
schools to part company with them.  The $$$ hit would be hard, but
temporary.

Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org
Absence is to love what wind is to fire; it extinguishes the small, it
enkindles the great. - Comte de Bussy-Rabutin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  

Dogs fans show heart, but . . . 
 NCAA won't let them pay for dad's trip to game

 By CHIP TOWERS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
 Published on: 08/11/05
ATHENS - A group of Georgia football fans took up a collection to pay
for a Boise State player's father to fly from Baghdad to see his son
play against the Bulldogs in Athens.

But the NCAA rule book got in the way.
 



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RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2005-08-11 Thread Charles
Fire the lot of them...


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Because of a worker's strike.  The baggers and ticket agents are upset
because of the way British Airways is handling the food
caterer for the airlines.

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[RollTideFan] NCAA and Injuns

2005-08-10 Thread Charles












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[RollTideFan] Wrong fight?

2005-08-09 Thread Charles








My Note:
I dont agree with this editorial, not even a small bit. But it is
interesting reading.



Wrong fight

Our
position: In trying to protect its fighting Indian mascot, FSU is off base.



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Florida State University is
fighting the wrong fight in trying to keep its Seminole mascot that many
American Indians find offensive. Ideally, the institution and its fans will
recognize that before embarking on an expensive and embarrassing court battle.

FSU's fans consider Chief Osceola leading the Seminoles onto the
football field and sticking a flaming spear into the turf a treasured
tradition.

But American Indians have complained for years about the stereotypes portrayed
at FSU and on other college campuses. Dozens of schools have listened to the
concerns and changed their mascots out of respect to those who complained,
while FSU and 17 other schools have not.

The NCAA Executive Committee last week responded by banning schools that
display hostile or abusive mascots from playing in championship
tournaments, affecting all sports but football.

FSU President T.K. Wetherell not surprisingly took issue with this, arguing
that the Seminoles mascot is a tribute to the fighting spirit of the Florida
Seminole. But Mr. Wetherell can't escape the fact that, intended or not, the
images of Osceola in war paint and thousands of fans doing the Seminole
Chop portray American Indians as savages.

In his anger, Mr. Wetherell vowed to sue the NCAA. That would be a mistake,
sending the message that FSU is willing to fight to the end for the right to
offend people. It is a stand no respected institution of higher learning should
take.

An even bigger mistake would be to portray such a lawsuit as a battle against
political correctness. The step taken by the NCAA is not an attempt to kowtow
to interest groups. This is a recognition by the organization that these images
-- historically accurate or not -- offend many of those whose cultures are
being portrayed.

Presumably Mr. Wetherell would not support calling FSU's teams the Pickaninnies
and starting each game with students in blackface tap-dancing out to the
50-yard-line for a spirited rendition of Camp Town Races.

Times change. Just as black men resent being called boy and adult
women wince at being referred to as girls, American Indians object
to terms like the Braves, Savages and Redmen. Why? Because demeaning terms
justify and encourage subtle discrimination against individuals in the group.
It perpetuates prejudice and keeps people in those groups on society's lower
rung.

FSU's defense that the Seminole Tribe of Florida has voted to endorse the use
of the symbols by FSU really serves only to bolster the NCAA's argument. The
leaders of the larger Seminole Tribe of Oklahoma -- where the United States
relocated Seminoles they could find after fighting three wars -- cheered the
NCAA decision.

That only shows that FSU and others can't pick which Seminoles they want to
listen to. FSU should listen to the concerns of American Indians and remove the
offensive images.





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[RollTideFan] Ban stuns Seminoles

2005-08-06 Thread Charles
Ban stuns Seminoles
NCAA bars American Indian mascots and symbols from tournaments -- FSU
threatens legal fight

By Emily Badger | Sentinel Staff Writer 
Posted August 6, 2005 


TEAM NAMES CLASSIFIED AS 'HOSTILE AND ABUSIVE'
.  Alcorn State University BRAVES
.  Arkansas State University INDIANS
.  Bradley University BRAVES
.  Carthage College REDMEN
.  Catawba College INDIANS
.  Central Michigan University CHIPPEWAS
.  Chowan College BRAVES
.  Florida State University SEMINOLES
.  Illinois-Champaign?s ILLINI
.  Indiana University of Pa. INDIANS
.  Louisiana-Monroe INDIANS
.  McMurry University INDIANS
.  Midwestern State University INDIANS
.  Mississippi College CHOCTAWS
.  Newberry College INDIANS
.  University of Utah UTES
.  North Dakota FIGHTING SIOUX
.  Southeastern Oklahoma State SAVAGES 




TALLAHASSEE -- The NCAA on Friday took its strongest stance yet against
American Indian mascots and imagery, announcing that 18 schools -- including
Florida State -- cannot host postseason competition as long as their current
names and logos are in place. They must also cover up or remove references
to those logos when traveling to NCAA championships.

The decision, which stunned Florida State officials, came out of Thursday's
annual meeting of the NCAA's Executive Committee and Division I board of
directors. The NCAA had asked 30 schools this spring to submit reports on
whether their mascots, team names and pageantry violated the association's
principles of cultural diversity. When the issue finally reached the
Executive Committee on Thursday, few expected such a decisive policy after
years of the NCAA's hands-off approach to mascots.

NCAA President Myles Brand singled out 18 schools as having prima facie
hostile and abusive symbols, and advocates praised that list for including
what they consider the biggest offenders, such as Florida State, Illinois,
Utah and North Dakota.

The executive committee did not specify exactly what would be considered
hostile and abusive. That definition may take years to evolve, with Florida
State one of the first schools Friday to threaten a lawsuit.

Executive Committee Chairman Walter Harrison, however, already has set the
NCAA's sights on details as small as the spear on a Seminoles helmet.

An institution may adopt whatever mascots it wishes; that's an
institutional matter that involves their integrity and autonomy as an
institution, said Harrison, president of the University of Hartford, on a
conference call. But as a national association, we believe that mascots,
nicknames or images deemed hostile or abusive in terms of race, ethnicity or
national origin should not be visible at the championship events that we
control.

The NCAA does not control the college football bowl system, meaning the new
policy may have limited effect on Division I football. But Harrison said he
hoped the Bowl Championship Series would follow the same procedures. Big 12
Commissioner Kevin Weiberg, currently chair of the BCS, was not prepared to
comment Friday.

FSU President T.K. Wetherell said in a statement that he intends to pursue
all legal avenues to overturn the decision, and he pointed to a resolution
passed June 17 by the Seminole Tribe of Florida embracing the university's
use of the Seminole name and imagery.

That the NCAA would now label our close bond with the Seminole people as
culturally 'hostile and abusive' is both outrageous and insulting,
Wetherell said.

The rules as we understand them would have us cover the Seminole name and
symbol as if we were embarrassed, and any committee that would think that is
a proper and respectful treatment of Native Americans should be ashamed.

The new policy will take effect in February -- beginning, for example, with
next year's NCAA basketball tournament -- to allow schools a chance to
complain. But both Harrison and Brand stressed that the decision was four
years in the making. Harrison was also confident it would stand up in court.

While many advocacy groups were celebrating the decision Friday, the
Seminole Tribe of Florida joined Florida State in its anger.

You have non-natives making a decision about native names, said Max
Osceola, a member of the Seminole Tribe of Florida's tribal council. Maybe
it took them four years, but it's been a lifetime we've been known as the
Seminoles.

The NCAA took into consideration the resolution the Seminole Tribe of
Florida passed June 17. But the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma has strongly
opposed Florida State's use of the name, and that didn't escape the NCAA's
attention either.

That is great news and wonderful to hear. The whole movement is going in
the right direction now, said David Narcomey, a member of the Seminole
Nation of Oklahoma who has been lobbying Florida State for years.

The rule will have costly implications for all 18 schools covered by the ban
as they design and order three sets of uniforms -- one for home games, one
for away, and now a third for games played in NCAA championships.


RE: [RollTideFan] Billy Wayne?

2005-08-01 Thread Charles








Prolly
left his cup.





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The market is not an invention of capitalism. It has existed for centuries. It
is an invention of civilization. - Mikhail Gorbachev 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick McMahan
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:49
PM
To: RTF
Subject: [RollTideFan] Billy
Wayne?





Whatever happened to our
newbie? He said hi, introduced himslef, then promptly disappeared. Our
wierdnesses must of freaked him out. :-) 

Uncle Wayne, you still out there?

Roll Tide!!
Rick Mc.






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RE: [RollTideFan] Fwd: 1 new message in 1 topic - digest

2005-07-27 Thread Charles
Got some sarcasm going there, eh?


Charles Mims
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Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Needing someone is like needing a parachute.  If
he isn't there the first time you need him, chances are you won't be needing
him again.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:19 PM
To: rtf
Subject: [RollTideFan] Fwd: 1 new message in 1 topic - digest

I wish our list was on google just like this list...

By the way, this was sent at 5:00pm July 28th, 2006.

--- alabama.sports.alabama group
 


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RE: [RollTideFan] Hello Bama fans

2005-07-21 Thread Charles










Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and see what kind of price he will give you. Hes just starting his own
server and it is the cpanel/mailman set up. 








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RE: [RollTideFan] Hello Bama fans

2005-07-21 Thread Charles








I
left yahoogroups for the same reason you are complaining on this list.
Half the messages are not delivered, and I was seeing delays of up to 48
hours. The private server works well when you have tech folks who know
what they are doing. The guy at bluenorth hosting has kept the sandbox
list running with no lag for 18 months. Thats why Im
following him to bluenorth and leaving the current host. What is
happening with RTF is most of the webhosting companies do not know how to deal
with a mailing list and when it actually starts being used they either a)
throttle back on the speed causing the delays, b) throttle back on the number
of messages they allow which further causes delays, or c) raise the bandwidth
prices which causes a move. The techs fumbled sandbox badly, we had the
list breaking for hours at a time until I found someone who knew
what they were doing. Thats the guy I just referred mike to.
And it cost through the nose. But, hes broke from that company and
set on his own and gave me such a great price Im betting that he will
give a great price for RTF too. Im figuring if he can keep a group
with the traffic of sandbox running with little problems he could keep RTF
running thats why I mentioned it.



Im
evaluating googlegroups, but if you frequent the googlegroups owner tech lists
you will find that they too are experiencing missing mail, delayed mail, and
disappearing groups. *BUT*
it is still in beta, so Im hoping the finished product will be superior
to yahoogroups. Right now its not. Thats just MHO.





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Google and Yahoo have an excellent price
all month long.











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RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Krut

2005-07-19 Thread Charles








I
like that





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EAT YORE HART OUT !!! My new BAMA shirt.











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RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Krut

2005-07-19 Thread Charles








I
like that





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discoveries, is not Eureka!
(I found it!) but rather, 'hmm that's funny...'. - Isaac Asimov 











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EAT YORE HART OUT !!! My new BAMA shirt.











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RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Charles
My sandbox list is *very* high traffic, about triple the traffic of this
list with HTML and many pictures.  During the busy times it's nothing to
have several hundred megs of traffic inbound a day (not counting the
resending that the list does to each member).  I tell you this because the
host for me is http://www.cmhe.net/ and they charge me $39 a month.  It is a
mailman based list.  If you want to talk requirements with their lead tech
contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and address it to the attention of Bill.  Tell him
I told you.  For the most part there are no problems, but sometimes messages
are delayed, usually to a jam up on the server end.  They usually respond
within 30 minutes to a problem.  I don't know what you pay for this list, so
that may be more expensive than you want.

Charles Mims
http://www.the-sandbox.org fun, friendly debate and talk about life.

 

Do what you know and perception is converted into character. - Ralph Waldo
Emerson
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Importance: High

I've read the whining about the server. I've spent an assload of money on 
different servers only to be kicked off without notice or reason (without a 
refund), have shitty server performance, have my bandwidth requirements 
throttled without notice, etc... 

The list needs to reside on a server that uses CPanel software for domain
and 
file maintenance because that is the format that we've always used. This 
includes MailMan mail  list software. All of out files are compatible with
this 
format only.The server also has to allow lists to be created which, believe
it 
or not, not all do. Some ignorant serve admins are so stupid that they set
up 
the software wrong and get hammered by e-mails once a list is used. They
think I 
am a spammer and jack me with no conversation. If the software is set up 
correctly there are none of those issues.

What I am saying it that I have always tried to use the best server
available 
within our requirements and financial limitations. Some are better than
others. 

Now, since the vast, vast majority of people on this list only lurk (you
suck!) 
then i can't see any reason we can't allow pictures to be posted. We need
only 
GIF  JPEG/JPG images and NO MOVIES (of ANY kind) or WAV/sound files until
we 
see how this will work on out bandwidth. 

As for HTML, knock your socks off until we see how it uses bandwidth.

I've asked for this before with almost no response, but here goes: If you
want a 
more reliable server then find it. Use the requirements listed above plus it

needs to be a UNIX server. Let us know what you find. Also, if you want to
see 
the message board resurrected, please volunteer to be the admin. 


Mike


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RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

2005-07-13 Thread Charles
Ok, yes, it's understated. :)  We've been running about 150 a day for
several months, but it has been as high as 500 per day.

Charles
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When I was here, all I could think of was being there. When I was there, all
I could think of was getting back.
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:14 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan

TRIPLE? That's the understatement of the century! It's 
more like 200-300 messages per day, or more, isn't it?

Slef E.

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From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List' RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] ADMIN Notice For RollTideFan


 My sandbox list is *very* high traffic, about triple 
 the traffic of this
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RE: [RollTideFan] here come the next one.

2005-07-07 Thread Charles
Yes.  Some true southerners must remain to preserve our way of life.  The
Yankees are trying to take over, it's a war.

Charles
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History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other. - Arthur
Balfour
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Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] here come the next one.

Are you under government orders to live in Flordaduh?

Slef E.

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To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] here come the next one.


 This here shiite has dun got old



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Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Charles




I've been quite happy in Daytona Beach for the past 9 1/2 years.

Charles Mimshttp://www.the-sandbox.org

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  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - 
  NASCAR
  Unless they move the Daytona 500 to another city I will only 
  watch on TVTim Boozer wrote:I made my first trip there for 
  this race last year, and swore it off,hopefully for good. I may try to 
  go to the Daytona 500 some day, but notanother night race, or at least 
  not without planning on sleeping right thereat the 
  track.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Behalf Of JVWattsSent: 
  Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:13 PMTo: RollTideFan - University of Alabama 
  Athletics Discussion ListSubject: Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - 
  NASCARAs much as I love NASCAR I made my 2nd and final 
  trip to that shit holeDaytona Beach 
  yesterdayJamieRick McMahan wrote: 
  You guys getting ready to watch the race tonight? Should 
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RE: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

2005-07-03 Thread Charles
I don't know what ERMC stands for, but it is a private enterprise
unaffiliated with the speedway and manages the *private* lots, like the
mall.  They are known to gouge people, even locals who go in for shopping.
You probably would have fared better at one of the speedway controlled lots.
As for traffic control it sucks during all special events, yet they never
seem to improve it.  That's why those of us who live here avoid that side of
town until you race folks leave!  

Charles
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of JVWatts
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Non Bama - NASCAR

We parked at that mall across the street from the trackthe parking 
was handled by ERMC StaffI don't know what the letters stand for but 
I'm hunting itWe payed 40 a piece to park there(there were four car 
loads of us)went to set up my grill, they came and made me put it 
upNO OPEN FLAMES allowedthen informed us that no alcohol was 
allowed either(BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)We asked about putting up our 
canopy and was promptly informed that we would have to buy an extra 
parking spot, so that bumps us up to 200 bucks totalI asked for a 
refund and told them we would pack up and leave and was told that there 
were no refunds, even though it wasn't specified on the parking 
stubSo we're stuckHaving well over 100 dollars worth of meat 
that had to be used, I inquired about propane stovesThey're allowed, 
even though they couldn't answer my question as to why a stove with an 
open flame that had to continue to burn was OK, but a grill with a fire 
that would die down in minutes was considered a no - noOKI had 
taken my camp stove so that was one problem solved but I had to go to 
Sears and buy a skilletanother 20 out of my pocketand some on 
the go coffee cups from that close by  Try and Save took care of the no 
alcohol problemI also went to make sure it was OK to smoke and 
listen to the radio while we sat there waiting for race timeIt 
wasbut no cursing was allowed by the muscians or usSo I make up 
my mind that the next time I go there, I would find where you could 
actually enjoy being at the place where you park
Well then for the second year in a row I watched blowers dry the track 
for about 2 1/2 hrslast night the race actually got under way 
without caution a little after 11THIS IS NASCAR PEOPLE  The race 
was OK except for the fact that the 20 car lead the entire damb thang
Javvy don't have enough bandwidth available for me to get into after the 
race traffic controlLet me just say that the Daytona cops, FDLE, 
Volusia County Sheriff officials, and Daytona Beach and Volusia 
government folks need to go to Talladega and learn from those country 
hicks about how to move traffic effectively and quickly out of town

Pat Smoot wrote:

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RE: [RollTideFan] Is this thang ...

2005-06-26 Thread Charles
I hate message boards.  I like everything to come email.  I can process
emails much faster than anything web based.

Charles
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A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. -
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:17 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Is this thang ...

Message boreds are for loosers (sic). I mean, who in 
their right fuckin mind would set up an emule list _AND_ 
a fuckin message BORED?

Then, of course there's Barney Harbison's list that some 
folks just feel they can't live without.

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Rick McMahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Is this thang ...


 Cool, well at least the list is still operational.

 This used to be a pretty active list. What happened 
 along the way?

 Does everyone go to the message boards for their 
 information and dialog with other fans?

 I visit BamaMag a couple times a day and post on 
 occasion.

 The season will be here before we know it. Can't wait! 
 Looking for the TIDE TO ROLL this year! Brodie gonna 
 light it up and THE TIDE D is gonna shut them down

 ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
 Rick


 Jeff Todd wrote:
 No different in-season.

 Slef E.

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Still working, just awful quiet in the off-season.




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RE: [RollTideFan] Hey Slef

2005-06-07 Thread Charles
I think it aint feetball season.

Charles
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Flattery is all right, if you don't inhale.
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Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:55 PM
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Hey Slef

WTF do you think it's gonna take to get the lazy-assed RTF'ers to post? Only

about 4 people ever post here. 

Maybe I should give up the list and let it die. 

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RE: [RollTideFan] Kinda Cool Site(non-Bama)

2005-05-31 Thread Charles
Phillips is a jerk.  It would not surprise me if he did it intentionally to
embaras Juliet.  There was a rumor going around someone was getting canned,
and I so hoped it was going to be him.

I get a kick out of when viewers suggest that he and Mike Jerrick should
get together.  It cracks me up.

Charles
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Behind an able man there are always other able men. - Chinese Proverb
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:23 PM
To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Kinda Cool Site(non-Bama)

Charles,

A couple of Sunday mornings ago I was watching Fox  
Friends and apparently Juliet Huddy hadn't been feeling 
well. Viewers were e-mailing the show with various 
remedies to help her situation. Mike Jerrick and Julian 
Phillips were reading aloud some of the suggestions. 
Anyway, Julian Phillips says: Here's a suggestion from 
Eddie Johnson, in Ohio. He says Juliet needs a good dose 
of Dr. Johnson's root oil. He says it's good for all 
that ails you.

Juliet's face turned red as a fire engine, and Jerrick 
just dropped his head. Julian Phillips sat there looking 
at them like WHAT? Jerrick looks up and says You 
weren't supposed to read THAT ONE! Phillips asks WHY? 
By this time Juliet Huddy is about to explode trying not 
to laugh, and she looks at him and says: THAT'S A 
JOKE! Phillips says: Well, I didn't know! I thought 
the guy was just trying to help!

Slef E.

- Original Message - 
From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
Discussion List' RTF@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Kinda Cool Site(non-Bama)


 Nodding furiously.

 Charles
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 talk about life.



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 Ralph Waldo Emerson
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jeff Todd
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:28 PM
 To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics 
 Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Kinda Cool Site(non-Bama)

 Juliet Huddy at #12? You are fuckin NUTS! That chic is
 hot enough to heat a four-bedroom home!

 Slef E.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: RollTideFan - University of Alabama Athletics
 Discussion List RTF@rolltidefan.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:24 AM
 Subject: [RollTideFan] Kinda Cool Site(non-Bama)


 Check this out. The site allows you to make your own
 list. Kinda juvenile but a
 fun time killer.

 Post a link to your favorite list or your own list or
 even just post a text
 version of your list for us to discuss and make fun of
 you. ;-P

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RE: [RollTideFan] where's all y'all?

2005-05-20 Thread Charles
Daytona Beach, FL

Charles
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] where's all y'all?

Panama City, Florida
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To: rtf rtf@rolltidefan.net
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] where's all y'all?


 I know we gots representation from Boass, Blunt
 County, and Huntsvile, but where's everyone else at?
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [RollTideFan] RTF Member Check-in! [Just for fun]

2005-03-02 Thread Charles
I'm here.


Charles Mims
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Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:53 PM
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Subject: [RollTideFan] RTF Member Check-in! [Just for fun]

Javvy's here!

Everyone reply, even if you usually just lurk. Let's see how many replies we
can 
get.






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RE: [RollTideFan] Test

2005-01-10 Thread Charles
Stop that, I'm sensitive.

Charles
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or considered my feelings in this matter.  But if it brought some passing
fancy to some lowly humans as they haphazardly pranced their way through
life's mournful jungle then so be it.- Marvin the Paranoid Android
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tickle

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RE: [RollTideFan] Call Jesse Jackson!

2004-11-30 Thread Charles
What do you want me to call him?  Lots of things come to mind, most of them
not nice.

Charles
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Kerry/EdwardsRejected, not Elected!

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RE: [RollTideFan] Oh my..

2004-11-08 Thread Charles
muttering bloody Yankees 


Charles
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W stands for Winner

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Direct and to the point, that person has excellent communication skills. :)

Ruck

kurtrasmussen wrote:
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RE: [RollTideFan] The good news just keeps coming!

2004-11-03 Thread Charles
What's More Difficult Than Landing a Man On The Moon?

Why a democrat giving a concession speech! 


Charles
http://www.the-sandbox.org fun, friendly debate and talk about life.
W stands for Winner

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Subject: [RollTideFan] The good news just keeps coming!

Tom Daschle - DEFEATED!

At least 53 Senate seats now belong to Republicans!

God has truly blessed America!

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RE: [RollTideFan] Vote Tommorrow.....

2004-11-01 Thread Charles
That's right...flush the Johns 


Charles
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If you can read this, thank a teacher.  If you can read this in English,
thank a soldier.

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Vote Tommorrow.

Make sure you vote:

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RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Sonja;

2004-10-05 Thread Charles
It's a cool truck. 


Charles
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If you can read this, thank a teacher.  If you can read this in English,
thank a soldier.

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Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 7:37:47 AM, you wrote:

JP One of these trucks passed by the tailgate area Saturday.

JP http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/severe/cxt.asp

 


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RE: [RollTideFan] Jeanne

2004-09-26 Thread Charles
I evacuated to Orlando and it changed track and we got hit with some of the
hardest winds.  It has been 80+mph winds since 9am, and over 100+ before
that. 

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M Laborde wrote:

Cat 3 with 115 mph winds making landfall as I type. It's beating the 
piss out of Florida. The pictures we see in the coming days may make 
Ivan look better and will certainly make Charley  Frances look weak.

Good luck to all Florida  south Georgia RTF'ers!
  


What he said! 

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RE: [RollTideFan] Tide officials keeping wary eye on Ivan

2004-09-14 Thread Charles
You guys have four.  I've been stopped by all of them. 


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So if they cross into Alabama between the hours of 11:00PM and 7:00AM, our
three State Troopers for that time period will be escorting the Western
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RE: [RollTideFan] [IMPORTANT] Ivan Tracking...

2004-09-14 Thread Charles
Orlando weather forecasters are disagreeing with the NWS and saying Panama
City as well. 


Charles
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Right now, Panama City is holding our breath. According to our weather man,
he is not totally convinced that Ivan will get as far west as Mobile. And if
Ivan goes to Mobile, Panama City will get the northeast (VERY bad) quadrant.
I'll do my best to send updates as long as I have power.
Roll Tide!!
Jenny

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 From: M Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  If the storm continues to track toward Biloxi (or within 50 miles)
 [...]

 Nowhere near?


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/061453W5.gif

 Either way, BamaJanny better be lettin' us know what the hail's goin' on
down there!

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RE: Re[2]: [RollTideFan] Still early but Ivan

2004-09-10 Thread Charles
No offense to the Texans, but I like that idea much better. 


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No shit! At the current rate of change, Ivan will hit Galveston, Texas.

Slef E.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Charley was the real deal

2004-09-09 Thread Charles
 
A lot more shingles gone, several bare patches showing wood now on the roof.
Water inside from the storm surge, all the carpets are wet, water inside
from the bare patches on the roof, one ceiling came in on the SE corner of
the house.  My roofer tells me a minimum of 4 weeks to get to it, and Ivan
is on his way.  I'm on the list for disaster relief to come tarp my house,
but I haven't seen them yet.  

Charles
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How did you make out with Frances?

Slef E.

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They are saying 20 million just in Daytona Beach. I only had minor
damagea lot of shingles gone, a fence flattened, the girls trampoline
was destroyed, and a tree uprooted.  Others around me lost their whole roof,
trusses and all.


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RE: [RollTideFan] category 5 Ivan

2004-09-09 Thread Charles
I hope it changes path...FL folks are already at the breaking point. 


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Thursday, September 9, 2004, 7:13:51 AM, you wrote:

amc http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/0614
amc 53W5.gif


160 mph winds with higher gusts. Damn.















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RE: [RollTideFan] Charley was the real deal

2004-08-18 Thread Charles
They are saying 20 million just in Daytona Beach. I only had minor
damagea lot of shingles gone, a fence flattened, the girls trampoline
was destroyed, and a tree uprooted.  Others around me lost their whole roof,
trusses and all.


Charles
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From Drudge:

CHARLEY SECOND MOST-EXPENSIVE NATURAL DISASTER IN MODERN HISTORY; DAMAGE
COULD TOP $20 BILLION




Part I


Top 10 Catastrophes

Fri Aug 13, 6:27 PM ET 

By The Associated Press 

Top 10 catastrophic events for insured property losses, according to
Insurance Services Office Inc. of Jersey City, N.J. 

   

The company defines a catastrophe as a single incident or series of related
incidents — man-made or natural — that cause insured property losses
totaling at least $25 million and affect a significant number of
policyholders and insurers. Catastrophes with equivalent amounts of damage
are listed with the same rank. 


The following numbers are inflation adjusted to 2002 dollars. 


1. Terrorist attack (New York, Virginia, Pennsylvania), September 2001 —
$20.7 billion. 


2. Hurricane Andrew, August 1992 — $19.9 billion. 


3. Northridge, Calif., earthquake, January 1994 — $15.2 billion. 


4. Hurricane Hugo, September 1989 — $6.1 billion. 


5. Hurricane Georges, September 1998 — $3.3 billion. 


6. Midwest, South tornadoes, May 2003 — $3.1 billion. 


7. Tropical Storm Allison, July 2001 — $2.5 billion. 


7. Hurricane Opal, October 1995 — $2.5 billion. 


9. Midwest, South tornadoes, April 2001 — $2.2 billion. 


9. Northeast winter storm, March 1993 — $2.2 billion.


=

Part II

Storm may cost $20 billion
Insurance adjustors assess Charley's damage to Florida By Joseph B. Treaster
The New York Times




Saturday, August 14, 2004 - Damage inflicted by Hurricane Charley as it
ripped across the midsection of Florida on Friday and early Saturday could
exceed $20 billion dollars, making it one of the most costly storms in
history, economic analysts said.

Karen Clark, the chief executive of AIR Worldwide, a Boston firm that
provides damage assessments for insurance companies, said some of the most
severe destruction came from surging seas sweeping across the barrier
islands and beaches of Florida's Gulf Coast in the vicinity of Punta Gorda
as the hurricane first made landfall.

But Clark and field representatives of insurance companies said Orlando,
with its glistening downtown office towers, Walt Disney World and other huge
theme parks, was also hit hard even though the storm's gusts were
diminishing as it moved through the center of the state and skimmed past
Daytona Beach on its way to the Atlantic Ocean.

We have a swath of damage across the state, she said. Lee and Charlotte
Counties on the west coast were the hardest hit. But the damage in Orlando
is also significant.

Hundreds of house trailers were destroyed in Port Charlotte and surrounding
Charlotte County, said Loretta Worters, a spokeswoman for the Insurance
Information Institute, who is monitoring developments from New York for her
trade group. She said government buildings in the county suffered heavy
damage and that there were reports Saturday morning that fires had broken
out in the ruins of some houses near the town of Arcadia in Desoto County.
She said that a hospital in Arcadia was badly damaged and that the Turner
Agri-Civic Center there, where concerts and sports events have been held,
was destroyed.

The hurricane weakened moving into the Carolinas, and Clark estimated that
it might cause several hundred million more in damages there and farther up
the coast. Hurricane Charley may be the second-most devastating storm in
modern times after Hurricane Andrew, which battered South Florida in 1992 at
a cost of more than $25 billion.

RMS, a California company that also assesses storm damage for insurance
companies, estimated late Friday that the cost of Hurricane Charley to
insurers would be about $5 billion.

A much smaller portion of the damage of Hurricane Charley will be covered by
insurance than with Hurricane Andrew, industry experts said, because
flooding, for which most people do not have coverage, has been more
extensive in this storm and also because the insurance industry has shifted
a significant portion of hurricane damage costs to individual homeowners,
businesses and state government.

Clark estimated losses to the insurance industry could be $6 billion to $10
billion in Florida. That compares with $15.5 billion in insured losses in
Hurricane Andrew, which in today's dollars

RE: [RollTideFan] Hurrican Report

2004-08-13 Thread Charles
But they do hit Daytona Beach :(  We've been getting the leading rain bands
for 2 hours. 

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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:19 PM
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Hurrican Report

Hurricanes and Tropical Storms DO NOT hit the Tampa Bay areaThat is all

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RE: [RollTideFan] Adam and.... Steve?

2004-06-29 Thread Charles
Aint that special 

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To: rtf
Subject: [RollTideFan] Adam and Steve? 

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/040627/ids_photos_en/r3370188909.j
pge=16ncid=1756

kurt

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RE: [RollTideFan] Age Survey

2004-06-12 Thread Charles
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Charles 

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--- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would everyone please post their truthful age?  That includes VO  LC.
 
 


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RE: [RollTideFan] Age Survey

2004-06-12 Thread Charles
Don't mention it sweetcheeks. 

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Thanks for the compliment, Chas! :)

Slef E.
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Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:49 AM
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 Hehe...if some of you on this list are supposed to be my model for
maturity
 then society is doomed... 



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RE: [RollTideFan] Age Survey

2004-06-12 Thread Charles
I'm not opposed to it...but a dry party probably wouldn't appeal to most RTF
folks...although something equitable might could be worked out at an
alternate site besides my home in the area where it wouldn't have to be dry.


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I'm thinking Chas needs to host an RTF - Speed Weeks Party next February.
How about it, Chucky?

Slef E.

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 Chaz get it!!
 
 kurt- refined and shit ($1)
 
 Charles wrote:
 
 Don't mention it sweetcheeks. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:20 PM
 To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
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 Thanks for the compliment, Chas! :)
 
 Slef E.
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 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:49 AM
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 Hehe...if some of you on this list are supposed to be my model for
 
 
 maturity
   
 
 then society is doomed... 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [RollTideFan] Age Survey

2004-06-12 Thread Charles
Bwwaaahhaaayou only wish...ROFL 

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Oh, by the way, I noticed the sweetcheeks reference.
You haven't gone Catholic on us, have you? :)

Slef E.

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 I'm not opposed to it...but a dry party probably wouldn't appeal to most
RTF
 folks...although something equitable might could be worked out at an
 alternate site besides my home in the area where it wouldn't have to be
dry.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:49 PM
 To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Age Survey
 
 I'm thinking Chas needs to host an RTF - Speed Weeks Party next February.
 How about it, Chucky?
 
 Slef E.
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 12:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Age Survey
 
 
  Chaz get it!!
  
  kurt- refined and shit ($1)
  
  Charles wrote:
  
  Don't mention it sweetcheeks. 
  
  -Original Message-
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  Thanks for the compliment, Chas! :)
  
  Slef E.
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  Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Age Survey
  
  

  
  Hehe...if some of you on this list are supposed to be my model for
  
  
  maturity

  
  then society is doomed... 
  
  
  
  
  
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[RollTideFan] Auburn Joke

2004-03-13 Thread Charles
 
Why is Auburn always in the dark? 
Because they're afraid of Alabama Power.

Charles Mims
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his mouth shut when he's right. - Jim Fiebig 


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RE: [RollTideFan] Cut them some slack

2003-12-04 Thread Charles
That would be like the slack they (NCAA) showed Alabama? 


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Subject: [RollTideFan] Cut them some slack

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/7410733.htm

The NCAA, not usually known for its mercy, ought to consider cutting
Mississippi State a little slack when it finishes its investigation of the
football program.

Croom will have enough pressure on him without being burdened by the stiff
penalties he could inherit for possible rules violations by Jackie
Sherrill's teams from 1998-2002.

Neither Croom nor anyone else at Mississippi State is pleading for special
favors. But, in judging how hard to come down on the Bulldogs, the NCAA
should consider the consequences.

It's in the interest of the NCAA, whose leadership has voiced support for
greater diversity in coaching, that Croom be given a fair shot at
resurrecting the sorry Bulldogs. They went 2-10 this season and 8-27 over
the past three years. If they were breaking rules, they surely weren't
showing anything for it on the football field. [...]


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RE: [RollTideFan] Cheerleader kicked off squad for comments

2003-11-25 Thread Charles
Exactly so.  


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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:00 AM
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Bullshit, we don't need a Barner cheering for our team.  Screw him, he got
what he deserved.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Fucking Great!

2003-11-13 Thread Charles
 raising hand


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Behalf Of John 

Just out of curiosity, a show of hands from everyone who a) cares that a
college student was busted for this (if said student wasn't a football
player) and b) was never in a position to be busted for simple possession
and/or underage drinking while in college.




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RE: [RollTideFan] of teammate Markus Manson to Florida

2003-11-06 Thread Charles
Shooting blanks? 


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RE: [RollTideFan] What Type Are You? (non-Bama)

2003-10-28 Thread Charles
It said I was a debate poster. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Devan Orange
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What Type Are You? (non-Bama)

me too.
However, I don't quite think of myslef that way.
I just post what I want and don't care what people thinkdoes that make
me bad? I think not!

I just want to know why there wasn't anyone else which took the quiz??
Let me guess what Slef would be hm. ;-)


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:21 PM
To: RollTideFan; Hugh Wolfgang is a faggot
Subject: [RollTideFan] What Type Are You? (non-Bama)


I'm a Bastard Poster. Big surprise there, huh?

http://quizilla.com/users/MoogleLally/quizzes/Forums-Poster-Type/

Check it out! $1 to Kim







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RE: [RollTideFan] ROLL DAMN TIDE !!!

2003-10-18 Thread Charles
I'd settle for catching a ball. 


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ROLL DAMN TIDE NO MATTER WHAT  Can we catch a friggin break???




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RE: [RollTideFan] Sign Of The Apocalypse

2003-10-08 Thread Charles
And what qualifications does one need to be a politician?  Silly me, I
thought somehow that the elected representatives of the people were supposed
to be ordinary folk.  Doctors, teachers, grocery store clerks, and heck,
even actors.   


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What a joke this turned out to be. Like a woman said earlier, would you
hire a plumber to fix your car? What does AS possibly know about being a
governor? Oh well, glad it's California and not Alabama for a change.

Rick

Jamie Watts wrote:
  Anuld is the new gubner of Callyfohneeaoh Deer 
 LoweredJamie
 




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RE: [RollTideFan] Roll Damn Tide

2003-09-21 Thread Charles
I wore mine proudly in the house today ;)  But that's only because it's not
appropriate Sunday attire for me.  I will however quite proudly wear my tide
shirt all day tomorrow and dare these moronic FSU fans around here to open
their mouths.

Charles Mims
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I've been out and about today wearing my crimson Alabama t-shirt. I had 
a lady friend (soccer mom) say, you mean you can still wear that 
shirt?. All it took was a look and she knew there would be no way I 
give-up on this team. I refuse to criticize this team. After all they 
have been through for 9 GD months, we're all fortunate to even have a 
competitive team on the field. These boys will be fine, they'll put 
together a game plan for this weekend and I expect them to beat 
Arkansas, I really really do!!

ROLL DAMN TIDE FOREVER
Rick



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RE: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread Charles S. Mims
If he is so stupid he doesn't know the reasons for his termination then he
isn't fit to be a coach in the first place.  He knows exactly why he was
terminated, conduct unbecoming a representative of the University.  Does
anyone really buy that story he just woke up and she was there?
Rigtand OJ didn't kill that woman. 


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Here's the transcript if you didn't see it. 


http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html


Sunday, July 20, 2003
Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
ESPN.com

Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of Alabama.



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Re: [RollTideFan] I give up!

2001-11-27 Thread Charles Mims

For what it is worth, those using AOL version 6.0 do not have an easy way to
send mail plain text.  It defaults to HTML, and the fix to send in plain
text is convoluted and frankly a pain.

Charles

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Use HTML and  show your disregard for other Bama fans. Screw the post
editing!

Do what you want.


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Re: [RollTideFan] I'm here to tell you......

2001-11-17 Thread Charles Mims

Now *THIS* is Alabama football...

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Jeff Todd wrote:

 arbrin has quit!

 The upcoming 4th quarter will belong to BAMA!

It's about DAMN TIME!!

Kick their Orange wanna be asses!!

ROLL TIDE!!

kurt

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