RE: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-28 Thread Joel Perry
Don't hate.


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Just guessing, but probably because of freaks like you.

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 Why you hate America?

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 Awesome article!



 http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18572


 What I Saw at Gitmo
 By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
 FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2005

 Last week, I was privileged to be part of a Department of Defense
 trip to the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I got to see
 the operations of this controversial facility up-close -
 something particularly important after Sen. Richard Durbin's
 comparison of its guard to Nazi stormtroopers and calls of
 leftists to shut the center down. Our group went to GITMO to
 check out tales that the military was being too tough on these
 terrorist detainees. We left convinced that America is being
 extraordinarily lenient - far too lenient.

 After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and civilians who
 collectively staff Gitmo, I left convinced that abuse definitely
 exists at the detention facilities, and it typically fails to
 receive the press attention it deserves: it's the relentless,
 merciless attacks on American servicemen and women by these
 terrorist thugs. Many of the orange jumpsuit-clad detainees fight
 their captors at every opportunity, openly bragging of their
 desire to kill Americans. One has promised that, if released, he
 would find MPs in their homes through the internet, break into
 their houses at night, and cut the throats of them and their
 families like sheep. Others claim authority and vindication to
 kill women, children, and other innocents who oppose their
 jihadist mission authorized by the Koran (the same one that hangs
 in every cell from a specially-designed holder intended to
 protect it from a touching the cell floor - all provided at U.S.
 taxpayer expense). One detainee was heard to tell another: One
 day I will enjoy sucking American blood, although their blood is
 bitter, undrinkable These recalcitrant detainees are known
 euphemistically as being non-compliant. They attack guards
 whenever the soldiers enter their cells, trying to reach up under
 protective facemasks to gouge eyes and tear mouths. They make
 weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and break limbs as the
 guards pass them food.


 We dined with the soldiers, toured several of the individual
 holding camps, observed interrogations, and inspected cells. We
 were impressed by the universally high quality of the cadre and
 the facilities. While it may not be exactly Club GITMO, as Rush
 Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-Left critics who haven't a clue
 about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from the harshness
 experienced even by maximum security prisoners in the U.S.


 Meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on what several thought
 was an accumulated single day's ration for detainees. No, the
 contract food service manager said with a laugh, what you're
 looking at there is today's lunch. A single meal. They get three
 a day like that. The vegetables, pita bread, and other well-
 prepared food filled two of the large Styrofoam take-home
 containers we see in restaurants. Several prisoners have special
 meal orders like no tomatoes or no peanut products depending
 on taste or allergies. One prisoner, General Hood said, throws
 back his food tray if it contains things he has specifically said
 he doesn't want. How is he punished for this outrageous
 behavior? His tray is numbered, the food he requested is put on
 it, and the corrected order is delivered to his cell.


 The detainees are similarly catered to medically. Almost every
 one arrived at GITMO with some sort of battlefield trauma. After
 all, the majority were captured in combat. Today they are
 healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a visit to the modern
 hospital facility - dedicated solely to the detainees and
 comparable to a well-equipped and staffed small-town hospital
 with operating, dental, routine facilities - the doctor in charge
 confirmed that the caloric count for the detainees was so high
 that while most detainees arrived undernourished, medics now
 watch for issues stemming from high cholesterol and being
 overweight. Each of approximately 520 terrorists

RE: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread Joel Perry
Why you hate America?

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Subject:[RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo  [non-Bama]


Awesome article!



 http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18572


 What I Saw at Gitmo
 By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
 FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2005

 Last week, I was privileged to be part of a Department of Defense
 trip to the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I got to see
 the operations of this controversial facility up-close -
 something particularly important after Sen. Richard Durbin's
 comparison of its guard to Nazi stormtroopers and calls of
 leftists to shut the center down. Our group went to GITMO to
 check out tales that the military was being too tough on these
 terrorist detainees. We left convinced that America is being
 extraordinarily lenient - far too lenient.

 After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and civilians who
 collectively staff Gitmo, I left convinced that abuse definitely
 exists at the detention facilities, and it typically fails to
 receive the press attention it deserves: it's the relentless,
 merciless attacks on American servicemen and women by these
 terrorist thugs. Many of the orange jumpsuit-clad detainees fight
 their captors at every opportunity, openly bragging of their
 desire to kill Americans. One has promised that, if released, he
 would find MPs in their homes through the internet, break into
 their houses at night, and cut the throats of them and their
 families like sheep. Others claim authority and vindication to
 kill women, children, and other innocents who oppose their
 jihadist mission authorized by the Koran (the same one that hangs
 in every cell from a specially-designed holder intended to
 protect it from a touching the cell floor - all provided at U.S.
 taxpayer expense). One detainee was heard to tell another: One
 day I will enjoy sucking American blood, although their blood is
 bitter, undrinkable These recalcitrant detainees are known
 euphemistically as being non-compliant. They attack guards
 whenever the soldiers enter their cells, trying to reach up under
 protective facemasks to gouge eyes and tear mouths. They make
 weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and break limbs as the
 guards pass them food.


 We dined with the soldiers, toured several of the individual
 holding camps, observed interrogations, and inspected cells. We
 were impressed by the universally high quality of the cadre and
 the facilities. While it may not be exactly Club GITMO, as Rush
 Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-Left critics who haven't a clue
 about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from the harshness
 experienced even by maximum security prisoners in the U.S.


 Meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on what several thought
 was an accumulated single day's ration for detainees. No, the
 contract food service manager said with a laugh, what you're
 looking at there is today's lunch. A single meal. They get three
 a day like that. The vegetables, pita bread, and other well-
 prepared food filled two of the large Styrofoam take-home
 containers we see in restaurants. Several prisoners have special
 meal orders like no tomatoes or no peanut products depending
 on taste or allergies. One prisoner, General Hood said, throws
 back his food tray if it contains things he has specifically said
 he doesn't want. How is he punished for this outrageous
 behavior? His tray is numbered, the food he requested is put on
 it, and the corrected order is delivered to his cell.


 The detainees are similarly catered to medically. Almost every
 one arrived at GITMO with some sort of battlefield trauma. After
 all, the majority were captured in combat. Today they are
 healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a visit to the modern
 hospital facility - dedicated solely to the detainees and
 comparable to a well-equipped and staffed small-town hospital
 with operating, dental, routine facilities - the doctor in charge
 confirmed that the caloric count for the detainees was so high
 that while most detainees arrived undernourished, medics now
 watch for issues stemming from high cholesterol and being
 overweight. Each of approximately 520 terrorists currently held
 in confinement averages about four medical visits monthly,
 something one would expect from only a dedicated American
 hypochondriac. Welcome to the rigors of detention under American
 supervision.


 Of the estimated 70,000 battlefield captures that were made in
 Afghanistan, only a tiny percentage, something on the order of
 800-plus, were eventually evacuated to GITMO. These were the
 worst of the worst. More than 200 have been released back to
 their home country - if the U.S. is assured that the detainees
 would not be tortured by local authorities upon return. These men
 

Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread PIRATESPT
WhatYou read this propaganda...on the website of this turncoat 
heretic?Shame shame shame!

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Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread Pat Smoot

Just guessing, but probably because of freaks like you.

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Why you hate America?

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Subject: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo  [non-Bama]


Awesome article!




http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18572


What I Saw at Gitmo
By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2005

Last week, I was privileged to be part of a Department of Defense
trip to the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I got to see
the operations of this controversial facility up-close -
something particularly important after Sen. Richard Durbin's
comparison of its guard to Nazi stormtroopers and calls of
leftists to shut the center down. Our group went to GITMO to
check out tales that the military was being too tough on these
terrorist detainees. We left convinced that America is being
extraordinarily lenient - far too lenient.

After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and civilians who
collectively staff Gitmo, I left convinced that abuse definitely
exists at the detention facilities, and it typically fails to
receive the press attention it deserves: it's the relentless,
merciless attacks on American servicemen and women by these
terrorist thugs. Many of the orange jumpsuit-clad detainees fight
their captors at every opportunity, openly bragging of their
desire to kill Americans. One has promised that, if released, he
would find MPs in their homes through the internet, break into
their houses at night, and cut the throats of them and their
families like sheep. Others claim authority and vindication to
kill women, children, and other innocents who oppose their
jihadist mission authorized by the Koran (the same one that hangs
in every cell from a specially-designed holder intended to
protect it from a touching the cell floor - all provided at U.S.
taxpayer expense). One detainee was heard to tell another: One
day I will enjoy sucking American blood, although their blood is
bitter, undrinkable These recalcitrant detainees are known
euphemistically as being non-compliant. They attack guards
whenever the soldiers enter their cells, trying to reach up under
protective facemasks to gouge eyes and tear mouths. They make
weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and break limbs as the
guards pass them food.


We dined with the soldiers, toured several of the individual
holding camps, observed interrogations, and inspected cells. We
were impressed by the universally high quality of the cadre and
the facilities. While it may not be exactly Club GITMO, as Rush
Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-Left critics who haven't a clue
about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from the harshness
experienced even by maximum security prisoners in the U.S.


Meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on what several thought
was an accumulated single day's ration for detainees. No, the
contract food service manager said with a laugh, what you're
looking at there is today's lunch. A single meal. They get three
a day like that. The vegetables, pita bread, and other well-
prepared food filled two of the large Styrofoam take-home
containers we see in restaurants. Several prisoners have special
meal orders like no tomatoes or no peanut products depending
on taste or allergies. One prisoner, General Hood said, throws
back his food tray if it contains things he has specifically said
he doesn't want. How is he punished for this outrageous
behavior? His tray is numbered, the food he requested is put on
it, and the corrected order is delivered to his cell.


The detainees are similarly catered to medically. Almost every
one arrived at GITMO with some sort of battlefield trauma. After
all, the majority were captured in combat. Today they are
healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a visit to the modern
hospital facility - dedicated solely to the detainees and
comparable to a well-equipped and staffed small-town hospital
with operating, dental, routine facilities - the doctor in charge
confirmed that the caloric count for the detainees was so high
that while most detainees arrived undernourished, medics now
watch for issues stemming from high cholesterol and being
overweight. Each of approximately 520 terrorists currently held
in confinement averages about four medical visits monthly,
something one would expect from only a dedicated American
hypochondriac. Welcome to the rigors of detention under American
supervision.


Of the estimated 70,000 battlefield captures that were made in
Afghanistan, only a tiny percentage, something on the order of
800-plus, were eventually

Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread PIRATESPT
well actually Horowitz is one of my favoritesthey cant refute...cause he 
was there at the beginning...so they just ignore him

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Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread Joe Goodson

Hmmm, then you must REALLY hate Rowanda.
Joe
You cannot have a proud and chivalrous spirit if your conduct is mean and 
paltry; for whatever a man's actions are, such must be his spirit.

Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC), Third Olynthiac
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Fo what it done to mah peepul...

--- Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why you hate America?

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Awesome article!






http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18572



 What I Saw at Gitmo
 By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
 FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2005

 Last week, I was privileged to be part of a
Department of Defense
 trip to the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba. I got to see
 the operations of this controversial facility
up-close -
 something particularly important after Sen.
Richard Durbin's
 comparison of its guard to Nazi stormtroopers and
calls of
 leftists to shut the center down. Our group went
to GITMO to
 check out tales that the military was being too
tough on these
 terrorist detainees. We left convinced that
America is being
 extraordinarily lenient - far too lenient.

 After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and
civilians who
 collectively staff Gitmo, I left convinced that
abuse definitely
 exists at the detention facilities, and it
typically fails to
 receive the press attention it deserves: it's the
relentless,
 merciless attacks on American servicemen and
women by these
 terrorist thugs. Many of the orange jumpsuit-clad
detainees fight
 their captors at every opportunity, openly
bragging of their
 desire to kill Americans. One has promised that,
if released, he
 would find MPs in their homes through the
internet, break into
 their houses at night, and cut the throats of
them and their
 families like sheep. Others claim authority and
vindication to
 kill women, children, and other innocents who
oppose their
 jihadist mission authorized by the Koran (the
same one that hangs
 in every cell from a specially-designed holder
intended to
 protect it from a touching the cell floor - all
provided at U.S.
 taxpayer expense). One detainee was heard to tell
another: One
 day I will enjoy sucking American blood, although
their blood is
 bitter, undrinkable These recalcitrant
detainees are known
 euphemistically as being non-compliant. They
attack guards
 whenever the soldiers enter their cells, trying
to reach up under
 protective facemasks to gouge eyes and tear
mouths. They make
 weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and
break limbs as the
 guards pass them food.


 We dined with the soldiers, toured several of the
individual
 holding camps, observed interrogations, and
inspected cells. We
 were impressed by the universally high quality of
the cadre and
 the facilities. While it may not be exactly Club
GITMO, as Rush
 Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-Left critics who
haven't a clue
 about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from the
harshness
 experienced even by maximum security prisoners in
the U.S.


 Meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on what
several thought
 was an accumulated single day's ration for
detainees. No, the
 contract food service manager said with a laugh,
what you're
 looking at there is today's lunch. A single meal.
They get three
 a day like that. The vegetables, pita bread, and
other well-
 prepared food filled two of the large Styrofoam
take-home
 containers we see in restaurants. Several
prisoners have special
 meal orders like no tomatoes or no peanut
products depending
 on taste or allergies. One prisoner, General
Hood said, throws
 back his food tray if it contains things he has
specifically said
 he doesn't want. How is he punished for this
outrageous
 behavior? His tray is numbered, the food he
requested is put on
 it, and the corrected order is delivered to his
cell.


 The detainees are similarly catered to medically.
Almost every
 one arrived at GITMO with some sort of
battlefield trauma. After
 all, the majority were captured in combat. Today
they are
 healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a
visit to the modern
 hospital facility - dedicated solely to the
detainees and
 comparable to a well-equipped and staffed
small-town hospital
 with operating, dental, routine facilities - the
doctor in charge
 confirmed that the caloric count for the
detainees was so high
 that while most detainees arrived
undernourished, medics now
 watch for issues stemming from high cholesterol
and being
 overweight. Each of approximately 520 terrorists
currently held
 in confinement averages

Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread PIRATESPT
Rwanda and Burundi are French and Belgian gifts to the world

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Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread Jeff Todd
BWHAHAA!

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 Rwanda and Burundi are French and Belgian gifts to the 
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Re: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo [non-Bama]

2005-06-27 Thread Bryan Benefield
Sorry, last message weren't mine. Al Sharpton hijacked
my account.

--- Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmmm, then you must REALLY hate Rowanda.
 Joe
 You cannot have a proud and chivalrous spirit if
 your conduct is mean and 
 paltry; for whatever a man's actions are, such must
 be his spirit.
 Demosthenes (384 BC - 322 BC), Third Olynthiac
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 From: Bryan Benefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Discussion List 
 RTF@rolltidefan.net
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 4:44 PM
 Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo
 [non-Bama]
 
 
  Fo what it done to mah peepul...
 
  --- Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why you hate America?
 
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  Behalf Of Mike Laborde
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  Subject: [RollTideFan] FPM: What I saw at Gitmo
  [non-Bama]
 
 
  Awesome article!
 
 
 
  
 
 

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18572
  
  
   What I Saw at Gitmo
   By Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
   FrontPageMagazine.com | June 27, 2005
  
   Last week, I was privileged to be part of a
  Department of Defense
   trip to the Joint Task Force - Guantanamo Bay,
  Cuba. I got to see
   the operations of this controversial
 facility
  up-close -
   something particularly important after Sen.
  Richard Durbin's
   comparison of its guard to Nazi stormtroopers
 and
  calls of
   leftists to shut the center down. Our group
 went
  to GITMO to
   check out tales that the military was being
 too
  tough on these
   terrorist detainees. We left convinced that
  America is being
   extraordinarily lenient - far too lenient.
  
   After speaking with soldiers, sailors, and
  civilians who
   collectively staff Gitmo, I left convinced
 that
  abuse definitely
   exists at the detention facilities, and it
  typically fails to
   receive the press attention it deserves: it's
 the
  relentless,
   merciless attacks on American servicemen and
  women by these
   terrorist thugs. Many of the orange
 jumpsuit-clad
  detainees fight
   their captors at every opportunity, openly
  bragging of their
   desire to kill Americans. One has promised
 that,
  if released, he
   would find MPs in their homes through the
  internet, break into
   their houses at night, and cut the throats of
  them and their
   families like sheep. Others claim authority
 and
  vindication to
   kill women, children, and other innocents who
  oppose their
   jihadist mission authorized by the Koran (the
  same one that hangs
   in every cell from a specially-designed holder
  intended to
   protect it from a touching the cell floor -
 all
  provided at U.S.
   taxpayer expense). One detainee was heard to
 tell
  another: One
   day I will enjoy sucking American blood,
 although
  their blood is
   bitter, undrinkable These recalcitrant
  detainees are known
   euphemistically as being non-compliant. They
  attack guards
   whenever the soldiers enter their cells,
 trying
  to reach up under
   protective facemasks to gouge eyes and tear
  mouths. They make
   weapons and try to stab the guards or grab and
  break limbs as the
   guards pass them food.
  
  
   We dined with the soldiers, toured several of
 the
  individual
   holding camps, observed interrogations, and
  inspected cells. We
   were impressed by the universally high quality
 of
  the cadre and
   the facilities. While it may not be exactly
 Club
  GITMO, as Rush
   Limbaugh uses to tweak the hard-Left critics
 who
  haven't a clue
   about reality here, GITMO is a far cry from
 the
  harshness
   experienced even by maximum security prisoners
 in
  the U.S.
  
  
   Meals for detainees are ample: we lunched on
 what
  several thought
   was an accumulated single day's ration for
  detainees. No, the
   contract food service manager said with a
 laugh,
  what you're
   looking at there is today's lunch. A single
 meal.
  They get three
   a day like that. The vegetables, pita bread,
 and
  other well-
   prepared food filled two of the large
 Styrofoam
  take-home
   containers we see in restaurants. Several
  prisoners have special
   meal orders like no tomatoes or no peanut
  products depending
   on taste or allergies. One prisoner, General
  Hood said, throws
   back his food tray if it contains things he
 has
  specifically said
   he doesn't want. How is he punished for this
  outrageous
   behavior? His tray is numbered, the food he
  requested is put on
   it, and the corrected order is delivered to
 his
  cell.
  
  
   The detainees are similarly catered to
 medically.
  Almost every
   one arrived at GITMO with some sort of
  battlefield trauma. After
   all, the majority were captured in combat.
 Today
  they are
   healthy, immunized, and well cared for. At a
  visit to the modern
   hospital facility