Re: [118attendees] KIRA Side Meeting (Scalable, Zero-touch Routing) @IETF118, Wed Nov 8th, 19.00–20.00h Karlin 4

2023-11-08 Thread Bless, Roland (TM)
Hi, thanks for those who joined the side meeting. Slides from today's meeting (Talks -> IETF118) and the mentioned background material on KIRA can be found here: https://s.kit.edu/KIRA Regards, Roland On 06.11.23 at 16:18 Bless, Roland (TM) wrote: Hi, people interested in scalable

RE: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Yingzhen and all, Unfortunately, I have failed to catch the agreement reached at the side meeting on TI-LFA today. It would be nice if some text could be shared. Regards, and and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha From: Yingzhen Qu Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 6:15 PM To: Alexander

Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa : A simple pathological network fragment

2023-11-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
> On 8 Nov 2023, at 13:18, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: > > Hi Stewart, > > Thanks for your email and your rephrased summary. > > Strangely, I feel that we are in agreement. At least, unless I missed a > point, I agree with your below email. I’d propose to rephrase it to check if >

Re: Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Hi, We’re waiting for the room. Please allow a couple of minutes Thanks Yingzhen On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:56 PM Stewart Bryant wrote: > I am getting room not found when I click the link. > > Stewart > > On 7 Nov 2023, at 09:29, Yingzhen Qu wrote: > > Hi all, > > We'll have a side meeting to

RE: draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa : A simple pathological network fragment

2023-11-08 Thread bruno . decraene
Hi Stewart, Thanks for your email and your rephrased summary. Strangely, I feel that we are in agreement. At least, unless I missed a point, I agree with your below email. I'd propose to rephrase it to check if you do agree with my rephase. (3-way handshake seems safer). Please find below my

LINK! Re: Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Yingzhen Qu
https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 -- Forwarded message - From: Yingzhen Qu Date: Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:29 AM Subject: Side meeting on TI-LFA To: RTGWG , rtgwg-chairs Hi all, We'll have a side meeting to continue the discussion of

RE: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Yingzhen and all, Tried the link, it says “Private room not found”. Regards, Sasha From: rtgwg On Behalf Of Yingzhen Qu Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 10:45 AM To: RTGWG ; rtgwg-chairs ; sp...@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA Hi all, Reminder. We will continue

Re: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Ahmed Bashandy
I also tried again and got the same message before Can't join meeting The meeting number of meeting link is invalid. Check the number of link and then try again Ahmed On 11/8/23 7:59 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: Yingzhen and all, Tried the link, it says “Private room not found”.

RE: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Tried it again, still the same result… Regards, Sasha From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 6:00 PM To: Yingzhen Qu Cc: RTGWG ; rtgwg-chairs ; sp...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA Importance: High Yingzhen and all, Tried the link, it

Re: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Ahmed Bashandy
I tried to join from a different computer and I got "*The Personal Room cannot be found*" Ahmed On 11/8/23 7:59 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: Yingzhen and all, Tried the link, it says “Private room not found”. Regards, Sasha *From:* rtgwg *On Behalf Of *Yingzhen Qu *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
I am getting room not found when I click the link. Stewart > On 7 Nov 2023, at 09:29, Yingzhen Qu wrote: > > Hi all, > > We'll have a side meeting to continue the discussion of > draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa. > > Meeting Time: Wednesday, 7 Nov, 17:00 - 18:00 > Location: Palmovka

Re: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Gyan Mishra
I get the same error Thanks Gyan On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 11:00 AM Alexander Vainshtein < alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote: > Yingzhen and all, > > Tried the link, it says “Private room not found”. > > > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > *From:* rtgwg *On Behalf Of *Yingzhen Qu > *Sent:*

Re: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Please try this one: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2 we're waiting for you On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 8:12 AM Alexander Vainshtein < alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com> wrote: > Still getting the same response – now after captcha requests☹. > > > > Did anybody succeed connecting to this

RE: draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa : A simple pathological network fragment

2023-11-08 Thread bruno . decraene
Hi Stewart, From: Stewart Bryant Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:07 PM On 8 Nov 2023, at 13:18, bruno.decra...@orange.com wrote: Hi Stewart, Thanks for your email and your rephrased summary. Strangely, I feel that we are in agreement. At least, unless I

RE: draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa : A simple pathological network fragment

2023-11-08 Thread Voyer, Daniel
Hi Bruno & Stewart, I will start unpacking few things as a warm-up for later this pm when we meet. 1. TI-LFA is a FRR solution which works. It provides a loop-free protection from the PLR to the destination. 2. When IGP convergence starts, micro-loop may happen because of this

RE: [EXTERNAL] Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Still getting the same response – now after captcha requests☹. Did anybody succeed connecting to this meeting? Regards, Sasha From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 6:02 PM To: 'Yingzhen Qu' Cc: 'RTGWG' ; 'rtgwg-chairs' ; 'sp...@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]

Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa : A simple pathological network fragment

2023-11-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
> On 8 Nov 2023, at 05:18, Gyan Mishra wrote: > > > > In the below RLFA RFC 7490 style loop topology R1, R4, R5 are in the > extended P space and and Q space being R5, R6, R3 and TO-LFA algorithm post > convergence path calculated RLFA PQ node being R5. > > Using section 6.4 to build

Reminder! Side meeting on TI-LFA

2023-11-08 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Hi all, Reminder. We will continue the discussion of the ti-lfa draft today! Meeting Time: Wednesday, 8 Nov, 17:00 - 18:00 (CET) Location: Palmovka 1/2 Webex Link: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/sidemeetingietf2 Thanks, Yingzhen On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:29 AM Yingzhen Qu wrote: > Hi all, > >

IETF 118 Side Meeting - AI4NETWORK

2023-11-08 Thread King, Daniel
Hi Folks, Just a heads up on a side meeting later today (14:00 - 15:30 local time) that may be interesting for some of you, AI in the Network (AI4NETWORK). This is a short meeting (90 minutes) and an opportunity to highlight and discuss requirements, challenges, possible solutions and