RE: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-12 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
[mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: 2018年7月11日 17:25 To: Tim Evens (tievens) Cc: Greg Skinner ; GMO Crops ; l...@ietf.org; ops...@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Tim, I already

RE: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-11 Thread Guyunan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW)
troubleshooting. BR, Yunan From: GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Skinner Sent: 2018年7月9日 11:59 To: Randy Bush ; Lizhenbin Cc: l...@ietf.org; GMO Crops ; ops...@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring

Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-11 Thread Randy Bush
> But I guess we all agree that this is not the best use of BGP protocol to > be now a vehicle of NMS only because it is easy with BGP to establish a TCP > session and to distribute "stuff" in a relatively loop free fashion. now that dns over tcp/tls is being deployed, we can return to the other

Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-11 Thread Robert Raszuk
Tim, I already suggested use of BGP-LS *as-is* in this thread on Jul 6th. But I guess we all agree that this is not the best use of BGP protocol to be now a vehicle of NMS only because it is easy with BGP to establish a TCP session and to distribute "stuff" in a relatively loop free fashion.

Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-10 Thread Tim Evens (tievens)
Hi Robin, Yunan, Shunwan, I'm a little late to this thread due to being preoccupied with a newborn. Below are my comments, which take into consideration the other comments… sans the YANG/telemetry debate. Considering we do use BGP-LS extensively, I don't think YANG is the only solution to

Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-08 Thread Greg Skinner
Randy, Is the OPS-NM Configuration Management Requirements (ops-nm) Bof from IETF 52 (10 December 2001) the meeting you were thinking of? There are also references to an IAB meeting in 2002 about the lack of use of SNMP for network configuration

RE: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-06 Thread Lizhenbin
, July 06, 2018 6:04 AM To: Lizhenbin ; Jeff Tantsura ; Acee Lindem (acee) ; g...@ietf.org; ops...@ietf.org Cc: l...@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Hi Robin, I know for a fact that there have been

Re: [GROW] [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

2018-07-05 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
nan (Yunan Gu, IP Technology Research Dept. NW) Subject: Re: [Lsr] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt Robin, Pretty much same comment as Acee - I'm not clear as to why... Protocol YANG models developed in the last yea