[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Turner
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Mislav Marohnić wrote: > Oh, you might wanna take a look at this then: > http://github.com/rails/rails/commit/01d92021e69f54def1ec8103b2b99f907dd88ec4 Good point. I'm doing HTML5 stuff on my own, and I guess I haven't seen any discussions here regarding switchin

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Mislav Marohnić
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 22:41, Mark Turner wrote: > > I would argue that we don't make HTML5 anything close to a default > until at least after October when the "last call" working draft is > finished. Oh, you might wanna take a look at this then: http://github.com/rails/rails/commit/01d92021e6

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Turner
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Trevor Turk wrote: > > On Aug 11, 10:37 am, Ryan Bates wrote: >> It's invalid in XHTML Strict to not wrap inline elements in a block >> element (such as a or ). But I just realized scaffolding uses >> XHTML Transitional so it's not technically invalid there. > >

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Trevor Turk
On Aug 11, 10:37 am, Ryan Bates wrote: > It's invalid in XHTML Strict to not wrap inline elements in a block > element (such as a or ). But I just realized scaffolding uses > XHTML Transitional so it's not technically invalid there. Aren't we moving to HTML5? - Trevor --~--~-~--~~-

[Rails-core] Re: Non JavaScript dependent scaffolding solution for record deletion

2009-08-11 Thread Christos Zisopoulos
FWIW, I implement my delete actions by using a modified version of button_to which actually creates an inline form with a *button* tag instead of an input of type 'submit' That way, I can style the button to appear exactly like a link. I can also attach the appropriate javascript to the f

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Bates
On Aug 11, 8:10 am, Mislav Marohnić wrote: > Blindly changing all elements to isn't a sign of being a good > HTML citizen. Fair enough. The tag is fine. > > 4) +1 Isn't it invalid markup not to have it in a tag? > > No, why would it be invalid? It's invalid in XHTML Strict to not wrap in

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Kivanio Barbosa
José, i saw this last week, it's amazing. I just mention about formats to document what format will be default. Kivanio Barbosa Cel +55 65-8121-4248 Blog: www.kivanio.com.br Company: www.eiqconsultoria.com.br On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:06 AM, José Valim wrote: > >> Nowadays scaffold put ht

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Mislav Marohnić
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 16:19, Ryan Bates wrote: > > Here's my say on the points. > > 3) -1 Keep it but use instead of Ryan, here you're encouraging the exact type of cargo cult markup which—in my opinion—Rails should stop teaching, and these changes are the right opportunity to do that. Bl

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread José Valim
> Nowadays scaffold put html and xml by default, but i think xml isn't a > good option to be pressent in every action by default. This is being handled differently. You should be able to put in your application controller: respond_to :html, :xml, :json And use respond_with in your actions to

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Kivanio Barbosa
I know Ryan i have one too. I agree with you however i think xml should be removed. As you said just html will be enough to beginners. Kivanio Barbosa Cel +55 65-8121-4248 Blog: www.kivanio.com.br Company: www.eiqconsultoria.com.br On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Ryan Bates wrote: > > O

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Dan Croak
On Aug 10, 5:56 am, José Valim wrote: > There are around 5 tickets on Lighthouse (probably more) about > changing Rails scaffold. I would like to summarize the requests here, > so we can finally agree in a solution. Move the scaffold in the direction of Formtastic, which is the leading edge of

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Bates
On Aug 11, 5:54 am, Kivanio wrote: > I think you should put one more option to choice formats in scaffold. > > Something like --format=xml,html,json --actionformat=index,rss -1 on adding a "--format" option. It will be much easier to add/remove this afterwards in Rails 3 scaffold. Also I think t

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Mislav Marohnić
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 14:31, Albert Llop wrote: > On mislav's comment I just have to add that it makes no sense to use > when you can use , and if you want the scaffold to have labels show > bold, then use css. Albert, while talking about we were actually talking about markup on "show" page

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Ryan Bates
Here's my say on the points. 1) +1 on _form partial. We had this before and I didn't hear anyone confused by it. 2) -1 Either keep it tag or use 3) -1 Keep it but use instead of 4) +1 Isn't it invalid markup not to have it in a tag? 5) +1 Since it generates a CSS file it makes sense to keep

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Kivanio
I agree with all said above. I think you should put one more option to choice formats in scaffold. Something like --format=xml,html,json --actionformat=index,rss So, i can choice what format will be present at controller, maybe per action too. Nowadays scaffold put html and xml by default, but

[Rails-core] Re: Rails scaffold on 3.0

2009-08-11 Thread Carlos A. da Silva
> 1) Should we put forms in a _form partial? On the same way this is the > "best practice", we are adding more code for people to grasp at the > beginning. I think the partial is the best way to keep code DRY, even beginners would learn partials and it's magic easier and faster than anything else

[Rails-core] Re: Making Active Resource act like Active Record...

2009-08-11 Thread taryneast
Yay - sounds good. So I'll just email him? Taryn On Aug 10, 7:53 am, Jeremy Kemper wrote: > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:18 PM, taryneast wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > I've been using Active Resource pretty heavily over the last four > > months and have found, like many, that it's not as much lik

[Rails-core] Re: Making Active Resource act like Active Record...

2009-08-11 Thread taryneast
Hi Adam. On Aug 10, 9:09 pm, Adam Milligan wrote: > Perhaps I'm alone in my opinion, but I don't see the value of this. > ActiveRecord is an ORM that interfaces with the database; > ActiveResource is a convenience for manipulating a RESTful API that > exposes resources as XML.  My validations an

[Rails-core] Re: Making Active Resource act like Active Record...

2009-08-11 Thread Michael Koziarski
> If there's another way planned I'd love to see it. > Querying the remote system, for example, certainly has its benefits. Previously we've discussed requesting: /posts/new.xml Which could return an 'empty object' which would tell you all the columns and their relative defaults. I'm not sure

[Rails-core] Re: Making Active Resource act like Active Record...

2009-08-11 Thread taryneast
Nice. I've also been working on something like that - for a resource that has some local fields. Mine was just a "quick get it working" until I could get the HyRes stuff working, so I'm guessing mine is far more ugly. So I'd love to have a look at what you've got there :) Taryn On Aug 10, 2:53