[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-23 Thread tonypm
Etilyeti I am pretty good with HTML, and I know a bit of PHP and MySQL. I was about to plunge my head in my big PHP/MySQL book when I realized that it may not be the best programing language to learn. Would you recommend Rails for beginners? If not, what language would you recommend?

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-23 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
On 23/10/2010 8:56 PM, tonypm wrote: Etilyeti I think this thread got a bit hijacked on some slightly esoteric issues. Hopefully this didn't put you off. I would say Ruby is a great place to start. There is loads of really good stuff on the web that will lead you into good programming *snip*

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-19 Thread Peter De Berdt
On 19 Oct 2010, at 02:38, Luis Lavena wrote: if you don't know how to build from source, i assume if you are on linux you can do this: sudo aptitude install ruby sudo aptitude install gem sudo gem install rails And now install a gem that needs compilation, like json and tell me if it just

[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Etilyeti wrote in post #955186: Hello, I am not a programmer but I would like to learn and develop more complex websites than the ones I have done in the past. I will not learn for the pleasure of learning, but I will do it as I need to develop my website. I am pretty good with HTML, and I

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser li...@ruby-forum.com wrote: Rails isn't a language. I consider Rails to be a domain specific language. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Ruby on

[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Luis Lavena
On Oct 18, 5:57 pm, Rajinder Yadav devguy...@gmail.com wrote: If you're going to work with ruby on rails on windows its going to be painful afik, some plug-ins just don't work, if you're using linux or mac things will just work. will just work is subjective. Don't forget that you need to

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Dave Bush
You must first experience the joy of apt-get or macports. They pretty much make everything just work Really its much easier on unix based systems. I ran rails under native windows and cygwin and always had a number of issues that you just don't run into on a unix based system. I've had

[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Luis Lavena
On Oct 18, 8:54 pm, Dave Bush daveb...@gmail.com wrote: You must first experience the joy of apt-get or macports.  They pretty much make everything just work  Really its much easier on unix based systems. I ran rails under native windows and cygwin and always had a number of issues that you

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Rajinder Yadav
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Luis Lavena luislav...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 18, 5:57 pm, Rajinder Yadav devguy...@gmail.com wrote: If you're going to work with ruby on rails on windows its going to be painful afik, some plug-ins just don't work, if you're using linux or mac things will

[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Luis Lavena
On Oct 18, 9:28 pm, Rajinder Yadav devguy...@gmail.com wrote: if you don't know how to build from source, i assume if you are on linux you can do this: sudo aptitude install ruby sudo aptitude install gem sudo gem install rails And now install a gem that needs compilation, like json and

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Rajinder Yadav
On 10-10-18 08:38 PM, Luis Lavena wrote: On Oct 18, 9:28 pm, Rajinder Yadavdevguy...@gmail.com wrote: if you don't know how to build from source, i assume if you are on linux you can do this: sudo aptitude install ruby sudo aptitude install gem sudo gem install rails And now install a gem

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Dave Bush
Maybe subjective but from both sides of the coin. You may find environment setup easier on your platform but you will run into more issues on windows when developing your app. Cheers, Dave On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Luis Lavena luislav...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 18, 8:54 pm, Dave Bush

Re: [Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread jason white
virtual rails http://virtualrails.org/ running on virtualbox is a great way to start On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Dave Bush daveb...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe subjective but from both sides of the coin. You may find environment setup easier on your platform but you will run into more issues

[Rails] Re: Is Ruby on Rails for beginner programmers?

2010-10-18 Thread Phillip
I started with ASP/Access and changed to PHP/MYSQL and then Ruby on Rails/MYSQL. My take is that DHH developed the Rails framework for Ruby because PHP is not object oriented and the other object oriented languages were to code-heavy. PHP is easy to grasp as it is a procedural language. It has