Re: [rules-users] Drools Workflow functionality related doubt.

2009-08-13 Thread Eric Schabell
Hi, Hi! I will answer what I can here below inline: I want to use Drool Workflow in one of my project. I have some doubts about functionalities proovided by the Drools Workflow, as can they fullfill my requirements. 1. Is there support for multiple roles in a workflow? Do you mean

[rules-users] Using multiple threads for parallel rule flow execution

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Buchloh
Hi *, I need to speed up the total processing time needed for the execution of a rule flow which consists of multiple rule flow groups (e. g. A, B and C). I'm thinking about to parallelize the execution of A and B. +-- A -- + Start -- split + +-- join -- C -- End

Re: [rules-users] Using multiple threads for parallel rule flow execution

2009-08-13 Thread Edson Tirelli
Tobias, I believe that this is more than a flow question. The answer depends on another question: what is taking too much time to execute? The evaluation of the rules in A and B (LHS) or the actual consequence execution of rules in A and B (RHS)? If it is LHS of the rules that is

Re: [rules-users] How to create nested rules in Drool Guvnor

2009-08-13 Thread Michael Rhoden
You can do this using the extends keyword in your rule. Rule shopping cart total exceeds 4000, give 50% discount        when          condition        then          action    end Rule if order between 6 to 9 pm give additional discount of 20 % extends shopping cart total

Re: [rules-users] How to create nested rules in Drool Guvnor

2009-08-13 Thread Libor Nenadál
Hi Pardeep, you cannot nest rules. You can solve the situation with 2 rules like: rule big amount discount when Basket( total 4000 ) discount: Discount() then discount.percentage = discount.percentage + 20; end rule preferred time discount when Clock( 6 time 9 )

Re: [rules-users] Why is a flat object recommended?

2009-08-13 Thread Libor Nenadál
Mark Proctor wrote: We can exploit cartesian products and indexing for == constraints. If its a nested model we have to iterate over all possible instances. The other problem is if the nested model changes the engine has no idea this has happened, which if you are not careful can lead

Re: [rules-users] Type declaration in DSL

2009-08-13 Thread drools
hi all, can any one help me how can convert drl to dsl for drools,let say for the following code what will be the dsl, rule 'Rank accomodation name' salience 90 when $accBase: AccomodationBase() not AccomodationBase( eval( $accBase instanceof AccomodationRank) ) $accRank:

Re: [rules-users] Why is a flat object recommended?

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
Java pojo's nested fields is just a weak way to represent relations between objects. If you want to exploit those properly in a rule engine, best to use real relations. Mark Libor Nenadál wrote: Mark Proctor wrote: We can exploit cartesian products and indexing for == constraints. If its

[rules-users] how to convert drl to dsl

2009-08-13 Thread drools
hi all, can any one help me how can convert drl to dsl for drools,let say for the following code what will be the dsl, rule 'Rank accomodation name' salience 90 when $accBase: AccomodationBase() not AccomodationBase( eval( $accBase instanceof AccomodationRank) ) $accRank:

Re: [rules-users] OSGI, classloading, and imports in KnowledgeBuilder

2009-08-13 Thread Simon Thum
lasse.wallen...@apcc.com wrote: Ok, I finally got it running. I had missed an import in the excel sheet so I had a dependency on another bundle. Cool! All this debugging has made me understand (and appreciate) the solution sketched earlier by Faron Dutton more clearly. However it still

Re: [rules-users] Problem with JPA session persistence in Drools Flow (5.0.1)

2009-08-13 Thread SBalakrishnan
Thanks Kris Will download from the below link and check. Quick question, do you know when the official 5.1 release will be available ? Kris Verlaenen wrote: The fix for this issue has been added to trunk about a month ago already I think, have you already tried with the 5.1.0

Re: [rules-users] Conversion from Normal Decision Tables to Web-Based Tables and vice-versa

2009-08-13 Thread Barry K
Have you made any progress on this migration. I am currently estimating the migration path for our Excel based rules to web based decision tables. Can you describe the steps you were required to take? Anyone else, please feel free to comment on your Excel to Web Decision Table migrations.

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread André Thieme
Greg Barton schrieb: There's no reason why a rete based system couldn't use maps as first class objects, but Drools is heavily oriented towards POJOS. Using eval in the way you have is pretty much the way to go. Thanks for confirming that. For now I know that I am doing it right by using eval

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread Greg Barton
I was wrong. :). See Mark's later email. GreG On Aug 13, 2009, at 17:25, André Thieme address.good.until.2009.dec...@justmail.de wrote: Greg Barton schrieb: There's no reason why a rete based system couldn't use maps as first class objects, but Drools is heavily oriented towards POJOS. Using

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread André Thieme
Mark Proctor schrieb: Map( this['c'] == 206 ) That should work, we do support MVEL syntax for maps and arrays - we just don't suppor method calls, yet. Hello Mark. I just tested it and it indeed works for me. Although as I understand it, this will be compiled into an expression using eval

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread André Thieme
With what have you been wrong Greg? I understood Marks reply in such a way that the mvel dialect allows to use Maps without eval. But this is just syntactic sugar. When compiled or interpreted (I don't know which of those Drools will do with mvel rules), this will get replaced with an eval under

Re: [rules-users] how to convert drl to dsl

2009-08-13 Thread Luis Silva
We use a SQL like statements for our dsl. For example: DRL FORM: rule 'Rank accomodation name' salience 90 when $accBase: AccomodationBase() not AccomodationBase( eval( $accBase instanceof AccomodationRank) ) $accRank: AccomodationRank( level == $accBase.level, description ==

Re: [rules-users] OSGI, classloading, and imports in KnowledgeBuilder

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
We'd really like to improve out OSGi friendlyness. From getting Drools to work perfectly as an OSGi service, to getting our build system to publish all the necessary bundles. But we need people in the commnity to help us, you know where to find us if you want to help out, as we have so much

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Proctor
André Thieme wrote: Mark Proctor schrieb: Map( this['c'] == 206 ) That should work, we do support MVEL syntax for maps and arrays - we just don't suppor method calls, yet. Hello Mark. I just tested it and it indeed works for me. Although as I understand it, this will be compiled

Re: [rules-users] how to convert drl to dsl

2009-08-13 Thread drools
thanks Isilva, i will try by using this lsilva wrote: We use a SQL like statements for our dsl. For example: DRL FORM: rule 'Rank accomodation name' salience 90 when $accBase: AccomodationBase() not AccomodationBase( eval( $accBase instanceof AccomodationRank) )

Re: [rules-users] Drools and Clojure

2009-08-13 Thread Greg Barton
Well, you never know it performs until you try. :) See attached project. $ java -jar target/DroolsMapTest-1.0.jar eval.drl {bar=0} {foo=100} Time: 6607ms $ java -jar target/DroolsMapTest-1.0.jar mvel.drl {bar=0} {foo=100} Time: 13077ms So eval ended up being 2x as fast, at least for